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Apparently I was wrong about dbol only cycles
- Thread starter HardHat87
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25mg is plenty. If you don't see results it's either fake or you aren't going to the gym to all.Wootoom said:
I can hardly remember enough details to post much in the way of results. This was a long time ago. I will tell you about the last time I ran it which was fairly memorable. A few caveats first: 1) This wasn't new growth but I was just getting back up to size after a layoff 2) I respond very well to anabolics 3) I was doing deads, cleans, and rock bottom squats when the bodybuilding community was still totally deluded into believing the cable pulley row was a great exercise 4) I draw the line for my weight at the low 240s. I could like carry quite a bit more and with drugs have no problem getting there even on marginal dosages but this is where I like to be. 5) The taper and pyramid strategies were popular back then. 6) I am not a bodybuilder 7) I like to take as little drugs as possible, keep my cycles as short as possible 8) This was one of the last times I used drugs with the purpose of weight gain. I've dabled a bit with low dosages for rehabing injuries since then but my last real cycle was probably two years before this point and I always found that the longer I was off the better the gains were. This allowed me to always use very reasonable dosages and lighter compounds. Through maybe 18 cycles I've never gone up to even 1 gram per week with most use below the 600mg mark.
I started at 225-230ish using 20mg ED - respectable but not lean. I went up to 25mg week 2 but the gains were coming on too strong so I dropped back to 20mg after a few days. By mid week 3 I had cut back to 15mg and begun curtailing my diet. The next week I was down to 10mg because I was adding weight too quickly and futher curtailed the diet. Sometime during week 4 I was at a weightlifting meet as a spectator with a friend who was lifting, stepped on the scale, realized I was outside my weightclass, did a quick mental kg to pound conversion, and came in at 245. I dropped the dosage to 5mg for a few days and dropped it completely. All lifts were back up in reasonable range and bodyfat had dropped noticably. I don't know if the numbers and timeline will add up correctly but I recall having around 20 5mg pills left over from a 100 pack by the time I was done. Total length did not exceed much more than 30 days. I lost a few pounds of water right away, lifts stayed reasonably close to where they were, by the end of the next month I was around 240-242 with noticably lower fat than when I began. All in I was very pleased with the results.
Obviously it's not a typical experience and most people aren't out there cutting cycles short and curtailing diets but you get the idea. Other than the lower back pain and occasional headaches, this stuff has always worked wonders for me. Far far better than any test from which I've never been impressed with the results other than using a light dosage as a base in a stack.
mighty306
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Here is my experience with even the shortest cycle....
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356339&page=1&pp=20
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356339&page=1&pp=20
quadkilla31
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Amen to that. Right on Bro!needsize said:
GoldenDelicious
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i think that dianabols bad name comes from the newbies using it - the guys that add 10lbs of bloat and walk around like heroes, train like shit, eat like shit, dont do pct, and are motivated to use dbol because they dont have to inject it
imo as a drug, its not bad, though more care has to be taken in dosing it properly, im not a fan of such low half lives in a long cycle, and also, im not a fan of what it does to your liver (for some people)
also, im not a fan of people using it to "pre load" on a cycle of longer acting agents
in my experience (as a non roider who knows many, many roiders and their cycles/results intimately) dbol gets decent results. one guy in particular has only ever used dbol ('pinkies') and has one of the better physiques i have seen - large and lean, at a hieght of about 6' he must have 17.5 inch arms that are ripped. unfortunately for him, he doesnt work legs, and so looks like he will fall over if he walks around a corner too fast
as for the rest of the guys, well, they gain on it, but because their diets are so crappy, they just look like big pieces of chewed bubblegum. strongish bubblegum, but still, bubblegum
imo as a drug, its not bad, though more care has to be taken in dosing it properly, im not a fan of such low half lives in a long cycle, and also, im not a fan of what it does to your liver (for some people)
also, im not a fan of people using it to "pre load" on a cycle of longer acting agents
in my experience (as a non roider who knows many, many roiders and their cycles/results intimately) dbol gets decent results. one guy in particular has only ever used dbol ('pinkies') and has one of the better physiques i have seen - large and lean, at a hieght of about 6' he must have 17.5 inch arms that are ripped. unfortunately for him, he doesnt work legs, and so looks like he will fall over if he walks around a corner too fast
as for the rest of the guys, well, they gain on it, but because their diets are so crappy, they just look like big pieces of chewed bubblegum. strongish bubblegum, but still, bubblegum
