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Anyone tried Test Undecanoate (Nebido) ???
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XMAN.
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that's exactly what i have in mind.
they have it in european pharmacies and u can find some UG labs producing it nowadays. thinking of trying the UG version as it's much cheaper than the german bayer, just doing 750mg once a month which is 3 ml oil solution and u can even find TU500 in 500mg/ml form which is 1.5 ml only (only in UG labs) the idea is really exciting.
My advice: rather than believe the hype, look up the half-life and calculate out daily levels from first injection out. My though is that the ester isn't terribly longer than cyp or enananthate and most are dosing those 1x per week and even 2x to fully stabilize levels. So, while I have no direct experience with that ester for HRT I find it a bit stretch to think you can load up for 30 days and not experience fairly drastic volatility in levels. Then again maybe this ester is like Santa Claus, but as I've seen more reports and thought about it, I find no reason to believe in a magic ester that somehow avoids normal half-life functions.
XMAN.
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yeah u'r right it has a half life of 16.5 days and by doing the math it shouldn't be shot at a distant intervals just like Deca at least once per week, that's what my initial thoughts on it were, but then again u look into some studies and charts and u see that it peaks after a week stay steady until week 3 and start to drop on week 4, that's what really confuses me, does it really have a 16-17 days half life or this is just wrong, u even see ppl saying that it has a 53 days half life, too many contradicting data on it and that's y i'm asking the question in the first place to know from the experienced users themselves.
check this link for the full study on it : Treatment of Male Hypogonadism With Testosterone Undecanoate Injected at Extended Intervals of 12 Weeks: A Phase II Study -- von Eckardstein and Nieschlag 23 (3): 419 -- Journal of Andrology
this chart is in the study that shows Serum testosterone after a single injection of 1000 mg TU in 14 untreated hypogonadal men (Behre et al, 1999) (open circles) and during treatment with TU for 102 weeks (closed circles). Values are given as means ± SD. Dotted lines indicate normal limits.
http://www.andrologyjournal.org/content/vol23/issue3/images/large/andr-23-03-16-f02.jpeg
You might try the 'all things male' forum and see if anyone has tried it there. I'm pretty skeptical and I don't belive I've read any really positive or encouraging first hand experiences. I've seen a few but none stuck out and I usually ignore them at this point (which if they were positive would be unlikely). Good luck.
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Deltoid_87
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With undeconate id say levels would peak for the first 2 - 5 days then start to drop. So Once a week injections would be needed for the most stable blood levels. I don't think twice a week inj are necessary with this ester.
Deltoid_87
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With undeconate id say levels would peak for the first 2 - 5 days then start to drop. So Once a week injections would be needed for the most stable blood levels. I don't think twice a week inj are necessary with this ester.
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