anyone trained to be a UFC fighter?

[liquidmuscle]

Thanks Monkeyballs for the number but i want more leads so i am just curious if anyone can point me in the right direction,,i have never been trained in any MMA though so does that pretty much exclude me?, i am 25yrs old 6ft 210lbs, ready to train and kick ass of course after my frickin humerous bone heals

 

[Hdbody1]

I hear the Survival Center in Spring Valley, NY may train you. They got some crazy f**kers coming out of that place. I hope my info isn't outdated. Haven't been in the area for a while.

 

[liquidmuscle]

what about in Tx?

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Any good BJJ school can prepare you for a NHB match.Check your phone listings for BJJ schools in your area.

 

[Thaibox]

What part of TX? I'll find out for you

 

[granby140]

bump

anyplaces in jersey?

 

[IronFist]

Re: bump

anyplaces in jersey?

The last King of the Cage had a fighter from new Yersey but I can't remember what school he was out of...

 

[DesertTiger]

UFC Fighters can't be one diminsional anymore. You need to punch like a boxer, Kick and knee Muay Thai, do takedowns like a wrestler, and grapple like a brazilian jiu jitsu stylist. Look for a school that can teach you atleast 25% of each of the qualities. I think cardio is very important in that fight game also.

 

[BigRed54]

I don't think its exaclty what school can you find to help you fight good in the UFC. But what kind of background do you already have? You atleast need to have been taught either some type of Karate, wrestling, jiu jitsu, since you were a teen before you would have a chance to be descent in the ring of UFC. If you're already 25yrs old and have had no high level of training from 1 of those ilisted since you were a teen then i wouldn't think about it. Cause all of the guys that are the best in the ring have been training their whole lives...

 

[big e 75]

Wrestlers always win!!!

Fights are always won on the ground!
Srry, I just felt like saying that! I am a wrestler.

 

[Realgains]

Wrestlers always win!!!

Fights are always won on the ground!
Srry, I just felt like saying that! I am a wrestler.

WRONG!!! Submission fighters always win .....BJJ and shoot fighting. Wrestler only win if they know submissions

 

[big e 75]

WRONG!!! Submission fighters always win .....BJJ and shoot fighting. Wrestler only win if they know submissions

Very True! But most wrestlers do know submission fighting!!

All fights are won/lost on the ground!

 

[FullCircle]

Jerry Bolander worked out at the same gym I did a couple years ago. I had friends from HS that trained with the Shamrocks at the Lions Den. Submission is the best way to win there....

 

[Victor]

just learn BJJ and you will probably be able to kick some ass .



Victor

 

[Thaibox]

I don't think its exaclty what school can you find to help you fight good in the UFC. But what kind of background do you already have? You atleast need to have been taught either some type of Karate, wrestling, jiu jitsu, since you were a teen before you would have a chance to be descent in the ring of UFC. If you're already 25yrs old and have had no high level of training from 1 of those ilisted since you were a teen then i wouldn't think about it. Cause all of the guys that are the best in the ring have been training their whole lives...

Not true. Frank Shamrock started training in his late twenties with no background, and dominated the sport. But, generally, you are right.

 

[Thaibox]

Grapplers don't always win.

I have a very strong Muay Thai background, and a good amount of grappling skills and I'm comfortable on the ground. When I fight MMA, I find myself using Thai a lot of the time and I have a very good record so far. Most of my wins being from strikes not submissions.

 

[liquidmuscle]

so brazilian ju-jitsu seems to be pretty dominant, i like submission but hasve heard those bjj are fucking dangerous

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

Any good BJJ school can prepare you for a NHB match.Check your phone listings for BJJ schools in your area.

Huck nailed this one. I've been to several NHB or UFC matches and anytime a fighter was disciplined in BJJ and the other fighter was not, the BJJ fighter won EVERY SINGLE TIME. It didnt matter what the other fighter was trained in or the size difference. This convinced me to take up BJJ 3 years ago. I should complete my black belt soon. My brother got his BJJ black belt about 3 years ago and I will tell you he is a bad mofo. All he had to do was get into a couple of fights and now no one wants to mess with him.

Here's a funny story. I was watching my brother play in a flag football game and I had showed up late and didnt know what the score was. I saw this guy that I know is one of my brother's friends and he is pretty swole up. So I asked him what the score was. He said he didnt know. I said "well go ask D" and he said "MAN FUCK YOU, I'M NOT ASKING HIM SHIT. THAT DUDE IS LIABLE TO JUST PUT ME IN A CHOKE HOLD JUST FOR INTERRUPTING HIM." He didnt know I was his brother. I thought it was funny. He was scared to even ask him a question.

 

[Maximus2031]

Guy Metzger has a Lions Den in Dallas; hope that helps you a bit.

 

[BigRed54]

excuse me for my ignorance but whats BJJ stand for?

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

excuse me for my ignorance but whats BJJ stand for?

Brazilian Jui Jitsu.

Do a search on Brazilian Jui Jitsu or Royce Gracie from a search engine you will get plenty of history and information on Jui Jitsu.

 

[monkeyballs]

so brazilian ju-jitsu seems to be pretty dominant, i like submission but hasve heard those bjj are fucking dangerous

Jiu-jitsu is it. And 25 is far from too old. Good luck bro. E-mail me if you have more q's.

 

[liquidmuscle]

BJJ stands for brazilian ju-jitsu

 

[Buld0g]

I'm currently designing the website for Sean Alvarez. He's Renzo Gracie's best student and is launching a dojo in white plains NY by June 1st. That mother fucker is jacked.

Check out the site if you guys get a chance. www.teamgroundcontrol.com

 

[Corleone]

WRONG!!! Submission fighters always win .....BJJ and shoot fighting. Wrestler only win if they know submissions

LOL! What ignorance.
How about a lot of the top fighters around?. . . Matt Hughes, Matt Lindland, Mark Coleman, Don Frye, Randy Courture, Mark Kerr, Kevin Randallman, Vladimir Medvechenko etc etc etc. . .
How many times have you seen these wrestlers submit people? Ground and Pound can be a very effective fighting style, you don't have to do submissions to win a fight. What's more important is countering submissions.

 

[Corleone]

BTW: If you have any specific questions, feel free to shoot me an email.
I fight professionally, and might be able to point you to some people if you're still having problems finding a place to train.

 

[2EZ2BRICH]

I prefer Muay Thai, anyway, here are schools in New Jersey:

Advanced Fighting Systems
262 Franklin Turnpike
Mahwah, New Jersey
United States
(201) 828-5860
Phil Dunlap

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Alex Wilkie's American Freestyle
783 east main street bldg. 30e
Bridgewater, New Jersey
08807
United States
(732) 748- 1580
Alex Wilkie

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Alex Wilkie's Martial Arts Academy
783 East Main Street
Bridgewater, New Jersey
United States
732.748.1580
Alex Wilkie

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Bayside Academy Of Martial Arts
367 Reuter Ave
Elizabeth, New Jersey
United States
(908) 352-0622
Dan Miragliotta
http://members.aol.com/shootfyter/index.htm

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Champion Martial Arts Center
103 W. Main Street
Maple Shade, New Jersey
08052
United States
856-482-9555
Joe Priole
www.Champion10.com

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David Adiv Jiu-Jitsu Academy, Somerset Hills YMCA
147 Mount Airy Rd
Basking Ridge, New Jersey
United States
(908) 672-1211
David Adiv
http://www.armlock.com/royler.html

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Defensive Systems Institute
23 East Ridgewood Avenue
Galloway, New Jersey
United States
(609) 748-0890
Eric Scheffler

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Dragon Spirit Martial Arts
542 Valley Brook Ave
Lyndhurst, New Jersey
07071
United States
(201) 438-0350
Peter Tuccino
http://www.risesun.com

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East Coast Jeet Kune Do and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
7707 Bergenline Ave
North Bergen, New Jersey
07047
United States
201-861-3772
Armando Basulto
http://www.wayofnoway.com

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Eastern Sun Academy
1719 Hway 35
Oakhurst, New Jersey
07755
United States
(732) 531-8300

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Fortunato Karate
Woodbury/Glassboro Rd.
Mantua, New Jersey
United States
(856) 464-0402
Jim Fortunato

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Fortunato's Body Rock Fitness
20 Timberline Plaza, Woodbury-Glassboro Rd.
Sewell, New Jersey
08080
United States
(856)464-0402
Jim Fortunato

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Green Dragon Warrior Arts
PO Box 153
West Creek, New Jersey
United States
(609) 296-5520

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Jamie Cruz - Renzo Gracie Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and
International Martial Arts Training Center
Bergenfield, New Jersey
United States
201.387.1811
Jamie Cruz and Ace Ramirez
http://www.imatc.com

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Martin's Judo, Karate, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Studio
201 West Sylvania Avenue
Neptune, New Jersey
United States
(732) 988-7669
Shihan Raymond W. Martin
http://www.trianglechoke.com

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Performance Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu
20 Bland Street
Emerson, New Jersey
United States
973.253.2800
Louis Vintaloro
http://www.armlock.com

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Planet Jiu-Jitsu
187 Columbia Turnpike
Florham Park, New Jersey 07932
07039
United States
973 493 0557
Jeff Miller
http://www.martialartsnj.com

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Professional Karate Academy
80 Broad St.
Red Bank, New Jersey
United States
(732) 842-8597
David Lentz
http://www.redbank.com/pka/

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Senki Gym
17 King George Rd.
Greenbrook, New Jersey
United States
(732) 356 6900
Jarek Slagowski

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Sernack's Karate & Renzo Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy
87 Berdan Avenue
Wayne, New Jersey
07470
United States
(973) 692-1991
George Sernack
http://www.bjj1.com

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Team Royler Gracie/David Adiv USA
7707 Bergenline Ave
North Bergen, New Jersey
07047
United States
201-861-3772
Armando Basulto
http://www.wayofnoway.com

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The Martial Arts House
900A Chestnut St.
Somerdale, New Jersey
United States
856.627.8600
Joe Diamond

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Toms River Boxing Academy
1184 Fisher Blvd
Toms River, New Jersey
United States
(732) 270-5359

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Tong Dragon
Rt 9
Bayville, New Jersey
08721
United States
732-237-2595
James Wellington

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Universal Martial Arts Academy (formerly Spartan M
291 Ridge Road
North Arlington, New Jersey
United States
(201) 997-0888
Edson Carvalho, Rick Sikora, Eddie Rolon
http://www.openmat.com

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USA Karate Centers
Cooper Corner
Voorhees, New Jersey
08059
United States
1(856)784-6363
Sensei Drew Hayes
[email protected]

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[B182]

Huck nailed this one. I've been to several NHB or UFC matches and anytime a fighter was disciplined in BJJ and the other fighter was not, the BJJ fighter won EVERY SINGLE TIME. It didnt matter what the other fighter was trained in or the size difference. This convinced me to take up BJJ 3 years ago. I should complete my black belt soon. My brother got his BJJ black belt about 3 years ago and I will tell you he is a bad mofo. All he had to do was get into a couple of fights and now no one wants to mess with him.

Here's a funny story. I was watching my brother play in a flag football game and I had showed up late and didnt know what the score was. I saw this guy that I know is one of my brother's friends and he is pretty swole up. So I asked him what the score was. He said he didnt know. I said "well go ask D" and he said "MAN FUCK YOU, I'M NOT ASKING HIM SHIT. THAT DUDE IS LIABLE TO JUST PUT ME IN A CHOKE HOLD JUST FOR INTERRUPTING HIM." He didnt know I was his brother. I thought it was funny. He was scared to even ask him a question.

What school are you out of? There are only a handful of guys who have gotten to brown that quickly, I can't help but call BS here, not even BJ got his BB in 3. One of the great things about BJJ is it's a small community, and difficult to BS here.

 

[genarr3]

I'm currently designing the website for Sean Alvarez. He's Renzo Gracie's best student and is launching a dojo in white plains NY by June 1st. That mother fucker is jacked.

Check out the site if you guys get a chance. www.teamgroundcontrol.com

Best student? You ever heard of Mat Serra?

 

[genarr3]

What school are you out of? There are only a handful of guys who have gotten to brown that quickly, I can't help but call BS here, not even BJ got his BB in 3. One of the great things about BJJ is it's a small community, and difficult to BS here.

That kinda jumped out at me too.

 

[Enigmaxxx7]

O.K. BS has been called. I said I'm close, but still not really that close. Plus I had Judo before so that helped me along quick.

BUT I'm trying hard dude! Wearing my ass out.

 

[Dropkick]

sorry man. black belt in 3yrs....lmao.
which united studios do you train out of?

 

[Thaibox]

I've been to several NHB or UFC matches and anytime a fighter was disciplined in BJJ and the other fighter was not, the BJJ fighter won EVERY SINGLE TIME. It didnt matter what the other fighter was trained in or the size difference.

So, you've been to what, 1 NHB fight? It doesn't happen that way.

I've never studied BJJ formally so I don't know how the belt system works, but I've studied 5 other arts since age 7 and trained at a MMA dojo for years. No art I've ever studied that had a belt system allowed a black in 3 years. Didn't matter if you trained every day for four hours.

 

[Thaibox]

which united studios do you train out of?

 

[liquidmuscle]

between submission and bjj which would you guys prefer? honestly though how long would it take before i could....lets say defend myself,, i am a pretty good street fighter..clubs/bars etc etc but want to have no fear when challenged

 

[genarr3]

between submission and bjj which would you guys prefer? honestly though how long would it take before i could....lets say defend myself,, i am a pretty good street fighter..clubs/bars etc etc but want to have no fear when challenged

BJJ is submission wrestling. If you go to a GOOD submission wrestling school you will learn just as much about ground fighting. It's not like the Gracies have a special secret rear naked choke, arm bar, or knee bar. The submission moves have been around for centuries, the Romans had competions, that's where the Olympics came from.

After 6 months you will know more about take downs and ground fighting then anyone that isn't schooled.
After 1 year it will start to come naturally to you, then you'll be dangerous.

 

[Corleone]

I've been to several NHB or UFC matches and anytime a fighter was disciplined in BJJ and the other fighter was not, the BJJ fighter won EVERY SINGLE TIME. It didnt matter what the other fighter was trained in or the size difference. This convinced me to take up BJJ 3 years ago.

Contrary to popular belief, BJJ doesn't automatically make you an unstoppable machine. In my opinion wrestling is every bit as dangerous. The wrestlers have taken the scene by storm. Here's a few who defeated some of the top BJJ fighters in the world. (and these fighters are pure wrestlers, you will hardly ever see them attempt a legit submission, so this is just to disprove your theory that a fighter who isn't disciplined in BJJ has no chance)

Matt Hughes defeated Carlos Newton.
Randy Courture gave Vitor Belfort the beat down of his life.
Dan Henderson beat Allan Goes.
Mark Kerr beat Inson Inoue.
Mark Coleman has opened up a few cans of whoop ass for a couple BJJers.
These are just a few, and you can just as easily name some BJJ fighters who have given wrestlers a tough time.
All I'm saying is that just because someone knows BJJ, doesn't make them unbeatable.

 

[liquidmuscle]

just found a pretty good website mma.tv they have a discussion board and a training facility finder, time to put my power & strength into bjj

 

[Pat Mycroch]

BJJ is submission wrestling. If you go to a GOOD submission wrestling school you will learn just as much about ground fighting. It's not like the Gracies have a special secret rear naked choke, arm bar, or knee bar. The submission moves have been around for centuries, the Romans had competions, that's where the Olympics came from.

After 6 months you will know more about take downs and ground fighting then anyone that isn't schooled.
After 1 year it will start to come naturally to you, then you'll be dangerous.

Actually the olympics came from ancient greece and the sport was call pankration.
And mma.tv is a great site with tons of info. Nearly all famous fighters post there, including mark coleman, royce gracie, bas rutten, tito ortiz, randy couture, mario sperry, etc.

 

[rugger88]

First of all no one just jumps in the cage and fights in the UFC. Most fighters have years of expirience in MMA. The best way to get in the UFC is to do some amateur submission fights and then get noticed by a promoter. If you want to start training try going to a ju jitsu do jo.

 

[Charles Ray]

FOR ALL THE WRESTLERS.....



You guys know as well as I do that we come into the BJJ schools and just whoop the shit out of everyone. At first it's hard at first to actually win cuz we don't know anyyyy submissions but teach us 1 OR 2 and we have at least half of the guys asses in our hands. I have only high school wrestling experience and I even kick the crap out of these guys. Nothing compares to stuff u learn doing competitive wrestling. It is THEE best foundation for MMA with the exception of Muay Thai....they're both equally important if you want to have a SOLID foundation.

Wrestling+Muay Thai+ BJJ= the best mix

 

[punisher44]

Maybe you are really something to get a brown belt in what 3years. I smell shit. My instructor Dave Ruiz trained with one of the gracies for about 15years and he is a brown. He has won the last 2 pan am games in his weight class and the world games once. It takes a long time to move up. NO offence But I'm not buying it.

 

[ccorah]

Contrary to popular belief, BJJ doesn't automatically make you an unstoppable machine. In my opinion wrestling is every bit as dangerous. The wrestlers have taken the scene by storm. Here's a few who defeated some of the top BJJ fighters in the world. (and these fighters are pure wrestlers, you will hardly ever see them attempt a legit submission, so this is just to disprove your theory that a fighter who isn't disciplined in BJJ has no chance)

Matt Hughes defeated Carlos Newton.
Randy Courture gave Vitor Belfort the beat down of his life.
Dan Henderson beat Allan Goes.
Mark Kerr beat Inson Inoue.
Mark Coleman has opened up a few cans of whoop ass for a couple BJJers.
These are just a few, and you can just as easily name some BJJ fighters who have given wrestlers a tough time.
All I'm saying is that just because someone knows BJJ, doesn't make them unbeatable.

When Belfort is at 205 lbs (not 230 and not in good cardio shape) he is better than couture. He was just trying too hard to come in heavy.....Sorry, I had to stick up for him cause he is the most fun fighter to watch. Very well rounded fighter.

 

[Thaibox]

When Belfort is at 205 lbs (not 230 and not in good cardio shape) he is better than couture. He was just trying too hard to come in heavy.....Sorry, I had to stick up for him cause he is the most fun fighter to watch. Very well rounded fighter.

V Belfort is great to watch

 

[cobra kid]

alright, something i know about!!

I totally disagree with anybody that says a certain style is the best. It completely depends on the person, instructor, and most of all what works for the person. If you're looking for a school, don't commit anywhere untill you're sure that is what you want. There are too many unpractical places. BJJ is awsome but if you have no idea how to do standup, IMO you're probably gonna get pounded.(unless you're a Gracie) Go for both standup and grappling if you really wanna kick some ass. Muay Thai and BJJ together are pretty brutal. Check out www.sherdog.com , it's a great mma site.


BTW, don't do karate, it is gay

 

[liquidmuscle]

bump

 

[KA-BAR]

UFC Fighters can't be one diminsional anymore. You need to punch like a boxer, Kick and knee Muay Thai, do takedowns like a wrestler, and grapple like a brazilian jiu jitsu stylist. Look for a school that can teach you atleast 25% of each of the qualities. I think cardio is very important in that fight game also.

You hit that one right on the button DesertTiger! I used to live and breath Wrestling and converted to Submission Wrestling but never tried muay thai or boxing. I watch all the ufc's, prides, cage fights, aubi daubi or however you spell it and I know what works. Fatigue will make cowards out of anyone so cardio is a huge factor in NHB.

 

[nhbgorilla]

i didnt really see all the replies but there is a lions den in Texas, and another place where Evan Tanner and Heath Herring trained. or just find a bjj school and a boxing school.

 

[LittleHelp]

Very True! But most wrestlers do know submission fighting!!

All fights are won/lost on the ground!

Most wrestler know submission fighting to a point. If you learn only wrestling chances are you are not versed in joint locks, ankle locks and chokes. Because they are all illegal in wrestling. While most fights do go to the ground, a straight wrestler is at a disadvantage to a shootfighter in that since you cannot punch or kick in wrestling many of the takedowns and/or holds in traditional wrestling leave vital organs or limbs vulnerable to strikes or counters. That is why to be a complete fighter groundwork i.e. wrestling, BJJ, grappling, hapkido, combined with stand up fighting i.e. muay thai, jeet kune do, boxing is the most effective. This is one of the reasons shootfighting (Muay Thai and Jiu Jitsu Combined) has been to dominant in UFC>