Anyone know what kind of cycles the pros did in the 70's?

[HardHat87]

I was reading an article in muscle mag today about the use of clomid. Anyway they said that the bb's back then didnt use pct because there was none. I did know this but then it went on to talk about that people could be getting too much estrogen from the clomid/nolva, and end up crashing when pct stops. But anyway, it then says that the average gym guy after a year of training decides to use steroids, and starts with a cycle that is more than what frank zane used. I have heard both sided opinons on this, some saying they used a lot more than they claimed, others say they did not use much(compared to todays cycles). I want to know what they were doing and not using pct. Anyone read any facts about their cycles etc.?

 

[KR177]

this would be an interesting read

 

[RADAR]

Yes i followed their routine for years, it was based upon the pyramid principle start low build up peak for a few weeks cycle down until you came off, there was no crash doing it that way.
The most popular substances back then were , Test, Deca,primo,Dbol,Winstrol at least those were the most readily available.

I still do this routine from time to time.


RADAR

 

[Dial_tone]

In 1985 Tom Platz said he used 1.4 grams per week. I did 4-5 cycles in the '80s and never did pct once....never lost a lb either.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

Typical late 70's early 80s pro cycle......Bulking
Fina 700-1000mg week
Test (cyp,enanth) 1500-2500 week or suspension 1400mg a week
d-bols 100-120mg a day
anavar 50-70mg a day
deca 1000mg or eq at 1200mg
or drol at 150-200mg a day
Cutting
winstrol 700mg a week
halotestin 50mg a day
primo 700mg a week
propionate 1200-1400mg a week
suspesion the last week before a contest at 1200-1400.
Eq at 1000mg and or primo at 700mg was used as a bridge

Some bodybuilders began to use Non-synthetic gh in the early 80's
Without Gh the Classic Arnold, Frank Zane, Franco Colombo, dave draper, and my personal favorite scott wilson physiques took place. The doses from a pro will scare somebody, I've heard of jay cutler using 3500mg of a test a week and lee priest using 250mg a day of drol

 

[Bigdogmikey]

Typical late 70's early 80s pro cycle......Bulking
Fina 700-1000mg week
Test (cyp,enanth) 1500-2500 week or suspension 1400mg a week
d-bols 100-120mg a day
anavar 50-70mg a day
deca 1000mg or eq at 1200mg
or drol at 150-200mg a day
Cutting
winstrol 700mg a week
halotestin 50mg a day
primo 700mg a week
propionate 1200-1400mg a week
suspesion the last week before a contest at 1200-1400.
Eq at 1000mg and or primo at 700mg was used as a bridge

Some bodybuilders began to use Non-synthetic gh in the early 80's
Without Gh the Classic Arnold, Frank Zane, Franco Colombo, dave draper, and my personal favorite scott wilson physiques took place. The doses from a pro will scare somebody, I've heard of jay cutler using 3500mg of a test a week and lee priest using 250mg a day of drol along with colemans 24-28iu a day of gh abuse

 

[meatneck]

I thought eq was a recent steroid that came out in 90's...?

 

[Sigmund Roid]

I read an article in a dutch magazine, and it said that Steve Michalik used HCG and clomid. He also used DNP (called hexalon at the time) and of course the full range of steroids. 600 mg of anadrol/day was an example of what he used.

A sensationalized story is here:

http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/stevemichalik.htm

STEROIDS: A HORROR STORY
We would like to convey Steve Michalik's struggle with steroids, to highlight the side effects that go along with taking these and associated drugs. This article is based on a story by Paul Solotaroff, in Sunday Magazine October 25 1998.
"Steve Michalik only wanted two things. He wanted to walk on stage at New York's Beacon Theatre on November 15, 1986, professional body-building's Night of Champions, and just turn the joint out with his 120kg of ripped , Stripped and shrink wrapped muscle. And then he wanted to die." From age 11 Michalik was obsessed with getting big and finding out what made people big. He had gone to the extreme of buying monkey skulls, cracking them open and drinking the hormone enriched fluid that came from the hypothalamus. It wasn't long after he started taking steroids in 1972 that he was addicted. Steve took a cocktail of up to 14 different drugs, including speed to get through his workouts and downers so he could get some sleep. He took Halotestin, which caused constant erections, and fertility drugs for women to produce more testosterone. "There was always more drugs and more side effects and more drugs for the side effects."

He was huge but his body was slowly giving in, at one stage his blood pressure was 240/110 (recommended level is 120/80). He was bleeding from everywhere, his gums, kidneys, colon, and sinuses. He started getting migraines that required his son to pack his skull in ice to relieve the pain. His joints had turned to jelly, and worst of all his muscles went soft, no matter how hard he worked. It got to the point where in one contest he collapsed on stage in convulsions, almost dying.

He decided to stop taking the steroids. His testosterone level plummeted, a blood test revealed he had the levels of a 12-year old girl. His sperm count went to zero, he didn't get an erection in over 2 years, all the oestrogen in his body turned his pecs into breasts. His kidneys began to fail, his hair turned grey and skin hung off him. He came across a detox program that saved his life. It involved an hour of running then five hours in a sauna, for a minimum of 21 days. This leeched all the poisons out of his fat cells where they'd sit until they slowly killed him.

Michalek recovered to become an anti-steroid campaigner. He now teaches weight training to senior citizens, and tours gyms warning teenagers about his nightmare through steroid abuse. "There is no such thing as good drugs, only bad drugs and sick bastards who want to sell them to you."

 

[HardHat87]

Yes i followed their routine for years, it was based upon the pyramid principle start low build up peak for a few weeks cycle down until you came off, there was no crash doing it that way.
The most popular substances back then were , Test, Deca,primo,Dbol,Winstrol at least those were the most readily available.

I still do this routine from time to time.


RADAR

Could you give an example cycle with the pyramid principal? On a 10 week cycle how much of a taper each week, Thanks.

 

[Bigdogmikey]

they would do this:
1 1000mg test
100 of anadrol
2 1000mg of test
150 of anadrol
3 1500mg test
200 anadrol
4 1500mg test
150 anadrol
5 2000mg test
100 anadrol
6 2500mg test
winstol 400 mg
7 2000mg test
winstol 500 mg
8 2000mg test
winstol 600 mg
9 1500mg of test
winstrol 500mg
10 1000 mg test
winstrol

simple example, they add alot more drugs in this manner