Anyone here try PCT without Clomid..

[xxbignipperxx]

Post your experiences. I am currently post cycle off my "bunk" second cycle. I am shut down from it and trying to use "Post cycle" and "Unleashed" but if that doesn't work will jump into clomid later on. Anyone try this? I mean going the herbal way? And if it doesn't work can I try to use Clomid even if I am 3 weeks past last injection?

 

[Nelson Montana]

A lot depends on what your cycle was like. High prog drugs like deca, fina or anadrol are harder to recover from. Even if you don't experience sides from Clomid it's doubtful it would help with excess prog. If you have severe testicular atrophy, you may need HCG. But give the supps an honest try. Most guys get a good respose after a week or so.

 

[tomp]

Is there anyone whom has completed a PCT with these products and can/has reported back their results? I am very interested to hear them....

 

[zziggzzigg]

many people have come off cycle with absolutely no pct and done fine, and many people have used all sorts of pct and had problems, there are no guarantees and there are a lot of variables

 

[xxbignipperxx]

Well I am about 2 weeks or so into them...I will report back if my penis stops working.

 

[The Terminator]

If you have severe testicular atrophy, you may need HCG.

Somebody else was wondering about that today too...
So up top you go...

 

[Moderate_THIS]

Yeah, that period when your testicles fail, there's nothing you can do except for HCG, and sometimes this doesn't even help after the fact. If you take clomid, it is worthless until your leydig cells come back to life. I wouldn't even touch clomid until you feel some activity in your scrotum.... using it before this is analgous to "beating a dead horse", but in this case you're beating a dead testicle.

 

[DANABOLIC55]

what signifies shutdown though. does one stop cumming or shoot blanks....what?

 

[The_Ghost]

Here is what I did last time and exactly what I am going to do again this time around. Worked great for me, better then clomid did, but each person is different.

Avena Sativa 2000mg- 1000mg taken 2 times/day

Tribulus- 1000mg/day – 500mg Taken 2 times/day

Xanthoparmilia- 100mg/ day- once a day at night

Cnidium – 100mg/day –once a day at night

Maca 3000mg/day – 1500mg taken twice/day

ALA 1200 mg/day – 400mg taken 3 times/day

Milk Thistle 12600mg- 4200mg taken 3 times/day

Zinc- 50mg/day before bed

Nolva 20mg/day

Creatine 15g/day- 5g taken 3 time/day

 

[Nighthawkk]

Wow, that PCT looks like it would cost more than the actual cycle...

 

[browncloud]

big nipper,

I recall that you did not wait long in between cycles. I did the samething and i regret it big time. I will never over do it like that again. I did clomid HCG, arimidex and nolva. After i completed 21 days of arim and clomid, and nolva. Thats when my dick really went south. I waited about a 5 weeks then got some herbal supps, and have been on them for about a 2 weeks now. They are the only thing that has worked for me this time good luck you night just have to pay the piper for not waiting like i did.

BC

 

[abc 1]

i'm using avena, tribulus, maca, zinc, nolva and clomid (only 50mg a day). 6 weeks post cycle and i haven't lost any strength, cuts aren't as sharp but still holding all the muscle.

 

[The_Ghost]

Wow, that PCT looks like it would cost more than the actual cycle...

Cost next to nothing for all that stuff, creatine was the most expensive.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Cost next to nothing for all that stuff, creatine was the most expensive.

wow, really? where do you buy supplements if you don't mind me asking? I pay quite a bit for my larger pct regimens usually....

 

[xxbignipperxx]

big nipper,

I recall that you did not wait long in between cycles. I did the samething and i regret it big time. I will never over do it like that again. I did clomid HCG, arimidex and nolva. After i completed 21 days of arim and clomid, and nolva. Thats when my dick really went south. I waited about a 5 weeks then got some herbal supps, and have been on them for about a 2 weeks now. They are the only thing that has worked for me this time good luck you night just have to pay the piper for not waiting like i did.

BC

First cycle was 10 weeks long...and I took about 11 weeks off.

 

[Nelson Montana]

wow, really? where do you buy supplements if you don't mind me asking? I pay quite a bit for my larger pct regimens usually....

A bottle containing all the ingredients (about a months supply) cost 29 bucks, but posting the companys address isn't allowed.

 

[BigAndy69]

Hey Nelson, question...(I'm too lazy to search)

If I want to buy Tribulus, what kind of potency, % should I look for?

 

[Lift Chief]

wow, really? where do you buy supplements if you don't mind me asking? I pay quite a bit for my larger pct regimens usually....

beyond-a-century.com

 

[Nelson Montana]

beyond-a-century.com

Wait a minute. BAC isn't a sponser. How come you can say beyond-a-century .com but not proteinfactory.com ? Or is it that only I can't say it? I'm confused.

Andy:Go for something with at least active 20% active sapiens. But why use trib when you can use Avena and xanthoparmilia. That's like using pro-hormones when you can get Anavar.