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Anyone have anything BAD to say about 1-AD (compared to a real AAS)

Good, the Bad and just a little ugly

I ran about 9 weeks at 600mg of 1ad and 4ad tabs with 19nor as well.

When the smoke cleared and my axis recovered about 12lbs of LBM. However it's important to note that I concentrated on diet, sleep, water and kicked the beers ( who doesn't like 2 or 3 cool ones after a long hard day?).. But being off for a month now, my umps have gone down and my strength is level.

The bad: The sever loss of sex drive, damn that sucked. It made me passive and nonagressive. I am just now feeling frisky again. My wife thought something was wrong, honestly that added stress to great relationship. Recovery water and estrogen rebound, I controlled that with Ldex and had some bacne.

The pills make your piss burn and kidneys ache (I drank tons of water!!!) If I chose to do this again, going transdermal.

It's allot of work and allot of money!! It was worth it, and great practice for a future cycle. Sorry for the ramble but I just can't fairly state the bad without the good and situation

Spectre
 
Thaibox said:


Not even close

A mustang GT versus a supercharged LS-1 Camaro w/NOS

both are cars, just a rediculous comparison



Look at the feedback on ONE, Bill's ethergels, and the 600-900mg 1-AD cycles, and compare it to another non-aromatizing androgen like tren, winnie, primo, etc. -- make sure and compare 8 week cycles to 8 week cycles and 2 week ones to 2 week ones -- it is not a ridiculous comparison at all.
 
That is exactly what I have noticed. It is incredible that we still have alot of guys saying that prohormones are shit and don't work 1-ad and sometimes topical 4-ad seem to work(in a lot of people) as good or better(and faster). Topical 1-test seems to work even better, but that's not a very fair comparion, being that it is a very potent STEROID!

megadeth
 
Ask anyone who's tried an injectable 4-ad to compare it to "real
AAS." Oral testosterone no ester SUCKS when compared to "real AAS", and even Andriol requires a large dosage for replacement therapy. Likewise, if it were possible to actually inject 1-test and not be incapacitated you would see guys jumping from the "real" stuff like rats from a sinking ship!
 
norr said:

Yeah, about that: why did you stop making it, the cyclo 4AD powder that is? Have you at least sold the patent to some other manufacturer? 'Cause I've seen others selling cyclo tabs but never the powder... I really liked the nasal spray :(


Its hard to promote it. The average consumer has no idea how to use it or what it is supposed to do, and we cannot promote it as a nasal product for FDA reasons. So while its a good product and a small amount of folks love the stuff its poor sales do not justify its production
 
JavaGuru said:
Ask anyone who's tried an injectable 4-ad to compare it to "real
AAS." Oral testosterone no ester SUCKS when compared to "real AAS", and even Andriol requires a large dosage for replacement therapy. Likewise, if it were possible to actually inject 1-test and not be incapacitated you would see guys jumping from the "real" stuff like rats from a sinking ship!


this is why the dose is in the hundreds of milligrams a day for these products, to make up for the poor oral bioavailablity. If you could inject these products then they would be quite comparable milligram to milligram to most anabolic steroids out there.
 
megadeth said:
That is exactly what I have noticed. It is incredible that we still have alot of guys saying that prohormones are shit and don't work


We still have people saying "andro sucks" on questions concerning 1-AD and 1-test -- if one cannot conceptually grasp (or refuses to) that original andro and the later generation products are different molecules, and thus have different effects, then they cannot be expected to grasp much of anything
 
ThaiBox:

If you don't understand the statement then I'm not going to explain it to you.

On another note I'm sorry you could only produce 400hp on motor alone.
 
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