Any threads about the Bombings in England yet?

[Austin316]

hmmm you failed to directly answer my question so I could care less about your avoiding statements.

England, god bless the people who went through that nightmare, IMO made it easy for themselves to be attacked with how tolerant they are of the Islam nation and hording those people in like cattle, promoting mosques and allowing those protests, etc etc thats what you get for appeasement just as we had done as well. I'm not tryign to bash the Islam faith as a whole but it is the inital breeding ground of these animals

if we had not gone all out in our retaliation on terrorism, and no longer putting up with the UN/Sadaam antics which shows that nation not to fuck with us because we've had it and will come at you full force, I'm quite sure 9/11 would of been the first of a few major assaults by now, yet on our soil there has not been a single one since then.

 

[starfish]

hmmm you failed to directly answer my question so I could care less about your avoiding statements.

England, god bless the people who went through that nightmare, IMO made it easy for themselves to be attacked with how tolerant they are of the Islam nation and hording those people in like cattle, promoting mosques and allowing those protests, etc etc thats what you get for appeasement just as we had done as well. I'm not tryign to bash the Islam faith as a whole but it is the inital breeding ground of these animals

if we had not gone all out in our retaliation on terrorism, and no longer putting up with the UN/Sadaam antics which shows that nation not to fuck with us because we've had it and will come at you full force, I'm quite sure 9/11 would of been the first of a few major assaults by now, yet on our soil there has not been a single one since then.

Give me a break Austin...

Bottom line to me....I don't think we have done much to end terrorism...and I think THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could have come up with a BETTER PLAN to get rid of terrorism without killing over A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!!!


A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE, AUSTIN....you better hope your little arrogant attitide is right because REAL LIFE KARMA IS A BITCH.

 

[BrothaBill]

Give me a break Austin...

Bottom line to me....I don't think we have done much to end terrorism...and I think THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could have come up with a BETTER PLAN to get rid of terrorism without killing over A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!!!


A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE, AUSTIN....you better hope your little arrogant attitide is right because REAL LIFE KARMA IS A BITCH.

I completely understand your point of view, thats admirable, but have you studied the region? Saddam Hussein and his regime, have you read and looked at it and have you studied whats been going on there since sanctions were put into place by the UN, people that didnt want to forcefully remove the regime, do you know how many people died b/c they couldnt get the medicine they needed b/c Saddam wouldnt play ball with the sanctions, do you know anyone that has gone to Iraq and tried to provide care to these people, help these people, perform surgeries, volunteer their time and expertise, do you know any of this stuff, people died b/c of his regime in many ways, ways that you dont see but we see and we actually do something about it to help people live. Now we have to put the infrastructure in place to get the food, the medicine, the help those people need, what do you want us to do? Say fuck you, starfish wants to have a nice day and not think about Iraq b/c she's too lazy to understand and read whats going on there or volunteer her time to help, she'd rather bitch on the internet than get up, sign up and help the people of Iraq, no alligator tears please, some people go out and do things and put their money where their mouth is. Doctors without borders, nurses, medical personel, red cross, dont bitch about it, do something, I do, I belong, its your moral civic duty

 

[AristotleBC]

HEY GOLDEN, IF THE TERRORISTS ARE ANGRY, VICTIMIZED IRAQIS MAD AT THE US AS YOU CONTINUALLY CLAIM, WHY ARE THEY PRIMARILY TARGETTING THEIR OWN PEOPLE?

I know you wish to "understand" them so how do you explain that? Asshat

 

[Austin316]

Give me a break Austin...

Bottom line to me....I don't think we have done much to end terrorism...and I think THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could have come up with a BETTER PLAN to get rid of terrorism without killing over A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!!!


A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE, AUSTIN....you better hope your little arrogant attitide is right because REAL LIFE KARMA IS A BITCH.

how many more people died under their old leader? how much more brutal were those killings? How many American soldiers intentionally killed an innocent civilian? How many of those deaths were at the hands of their own people?

But hey i you would rather it be done as a mass genocide then casualty of war that is aiming to give them and their children a better life then more power to you

and you still HAVE NOT answered my primary question because you know I'm right, don't say that our nation is not safer then it was 4 years ago, nothing NOTHING you can show me will prove that it's a more dangerous place to live

 

[-SD-]

Do you really think they will give up or start wearing little blinking signs so we know who they are?

Do you really think they won't retaliate one day...somehow.....did they just do that to England?...hope not but who knows

We are talking about terrorists...they live to die for their causes. You don't know if they are even in Iraq or in some city in the United States..or waiting patiently for us to leave that country.

But I guess in the meantime we can just piss them off a lot and kill a lot of people who would never harm you or me in the process....now that is a plan!

Dont look now, but you just made a case against your own theory. According to what you just said it really doesnt make a difference to the amount of hatred the terrorists have for us since they are so extreme in the first place. So should we appease them? Negotiations possibly? Their cause and purpose is destruction of America and Westernism, it is in their religion and their mindset. Whether we invade some country wont affect that (since they are so extreme and die for their causes) so its in our best interest to do what we can to thwart their efforts. We succeded in Afganistan, we can succeed in Iraq if people would set aside the instant gratification mindset for a while and see the big picture of what it takes to rebuild a nation from scratch. Review the history of the post war ravaged nations of WWII and what it took to rebuild them so you can have a little perspective on what the US is undertaking in Iraq in order to have democracy directly in a region of despotism and oppression.

 

[75th]

Give me a break Austin...

Bottom line to me....I don't think we have done much to end terrorism...and I think THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could have come up with a BETTER PLAN to get rid of terrorism without killing over A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!!!


A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE, AUSTIN....you better hope your little arrogant attitide is right because REAL LIFE KARMA IS A BITCH.

Um, where did the word "innocent" come from?

Ah yes, your own warped view.

You dont think weve done much to end terrorism, huh. Sorry to challenge your expert opinion, but please detail the plan that you believe would work better than what he have going on now.

Just so you know, between 1990-1999 there were about a dozen terrorist attacks inside the US and on our interests abroad.

Between 2000-2005 (so far) there has been 1. Do the math.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Do you really think they will give up or start wearing little blinking signs so we know who they are?

Do you really think they won't retaliate one day...somehow.....did they just do that to England?...hope not but who knows

We are talking about terrorists...they live to die for their causes. You don't know if they are even in Iraq or in some city in the United States..or waiting patiently for us to leave that country.

But I guess in the meantime we can just piss them off a lot and kill a lot of people who would never harm you or me in the process....now that is a plan!

Since they will not give up, that's why we are still fighting.
Since they will retaliate some day, that's why we are still fighting.
Since we don't know where they are, that's why we are still fighting.
Or we could stay quiet, let them organize and wait for the big retaliation?
Sounds stupid.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Give me a break Austin...

Bottom line to me....I don't think we have done much to end terrorism...and I think THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA could have come up with a BETTER PLAN to get rid of terrorism without killing over A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS!!!


A HUNDRED THOUSAND INNOCENT PEOPLE, AUSTIN....you better hope your little arrogant attitide is right because REAL LIFE KARMA IS A BITCH.

It's easy to cry and scream for a better plan. In the meantime, millions of Americans are safer for what we are doing. And believe me. Between a hundred thousand of Iraqis and a hundred thousand of Americans, I WOULD DIE TWICE for those hundred thousand of Americans. This is WAR. In war there are innocent casualties. If the enemy don't want more casualties, inconditional surrender is the best way to stop it. If the enemy doesn't care about their own people, that's their fucking problem. We are protecting OUR own interests. We cannot protect their interests. We are doing the best we can.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

HEY GOLDEN, IF THE TERRORISTS ARE ANGRY, VICTIMIZED IRAQIS MAD AT THE US AS YOU CONTINUALLY CLAIM, WHY ARE THEY PRIMARILY TARGETTING THEIR OWN PEOPLE?

I know you wish to "understand" them so how do you explain that? Asshat

http://amconmag.com/2005_07_18/article.html
here you go.

a quick excerpt: The central fact is that overwhelmingly suicide-terrorist attacks are not driven by religion as much as they are by a clear strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. From Lebanon to Sri Lanka to Chechnya to Kashmir to the West Bank, every major suicide-terrorist campaign—over 95 percent of all the incidents—has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state to withdraw.

and further: The evidence shows that the presence of American troops is clearly the pivotal factor driving suicide terrorism.

If Islamic fundamentalism were the pivotal factor, then we should see some of the largest Islamic fundamentalist countries in the world, like Iran, which has 70 million people—three times the population of Iraq and three times the population of Saudi Arabia—with some of the most active groups in suicide terrorism against the United States. However, there has never been an al-Qaeda suicide terrorist from Iran, and we have no evidence that there are any suicide terrorists in Iraq from Iran.

you know, the thing about shouting at people is that it draws attention...so when you get your ass handed to you, you look pretty stupid

asshat out