Any threads about the Bombings in England yet?

[redguru]

IN YOUR PROFILE PICTURE! You you think I can't comprehend? It was a legitimate question...why so defensive..you put it in there.

If you want to get in a pissing match all night long...fine...I will never let anyone cut me down for questioning everyday why innocent people are dying ANYWHERE in the world. If that is not ok with you...WHO CARES!

yes, that's me last year June, I think, Sorry, I thought you meant my avatar.

You began your diatribe in this thread quoting me asking CFZB to tone down his fecitious anti-Bush rhetoric when England is mourning the deaths of complete innocents in an underhanded, honourless attack.

On a battlefield, people will die. The moral relativism I was talking about is you equating the deaths of civilians in Iraq in a war zone(which is deeply regrettable, but also which we try to minimize to the point of harm to our own troops) to those who were just riding the tube in London. If you cannot see the difference between the two, I don't know what to say.

 

[starfish]

yes, that's me last year June, I think, Sorry, I thought you meant my avatar.

You began your diatribe in this thread quoting me asking CFZB to tone down his fecitious anti-Bush rhetoric when England is mourning the deaths of complete innocents in an underhanded, honourless attack.

On a battlefield, people will die. The moral relativism I was talking about is you equating the deaths of civilians in Iraq in a war zone(which is deeply regrettable, but also which we try to minimize to the point of harm to our own troops) to those who were just riding the tube in London. If you cannot see the difference between the two, I don't know what to say.

Fine...I just fail to see how anyone thinks they are going to end terrorism by killing innocent people. You are only fueling the fire. Who are we at war with a noun! Terrorists? WHO? There will ALWAYS be people who hate the US. Take the wind out of their sails with their hatred towards us...I currently think we are only provoking them with Bush's greed and actions and innocent people are paying the price for his decisions so I SHOULD QUESTION HIM EVERYDAY and not be a little yes, man.

I WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR ME!

 

[mountain muscle]

Well Starfish,
They hate us for different reasons than Bush and his policies as well. Yes they hate you too. I see no problem with killing people who hate you, want you dea, will do anything it takes to kill you anywhere and are unwilling to negotiate or to stop until we are all dead.
Making them dead takes the wind out of their sails.
They kill far more innocents than we do, always have. Hence their name. Soldiers fight soldiers, terrorists kill innocents to terrorize the population into submission.

 

[AristotleBC]

Fine...I just fail to see how anyone thinks they are going to end terrorism by killing innocent people. You are only fueling the fire. Who are we at war with a noun! Terrorists? WHO? There will ALWAYS be people who hate the US. Take the wind out of their sails with their hatred towards us...I currently think we are only provoking them with Bush's greed and actions and innocent people are paying the price for his decisions so I SHOULD QUESTION HIM EVERYDAY and not be a little yes, man.

I WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR ME!

If the terrorists are terrorists because the US made them angry, why are they mostly targetting their own people?

Jackass

 

[starfish]

Well Starfish,
They hate us for different reasons than Bush and his policies as well. Yes they hate you too. I see no problem with killing people who hate you, want you dea, will do anything it takes to kill you anywhere and are unwilling to negotiate or to stop until we are all dead.
Making them dead takes the wind out of their sails.
They kill far more innocents than we do, always have. Hence their name. Soldiers fight soldiers, terrorists kill innocents to terrorize the population into submission.

Bush is over there for oil...

If Bush killed Osama I would pat him on the back...


Make who dead...good luck figuring it out...but hey maybe if we kill a hundreds of thousands of innocent kids,women,soldiers ect..we will nab a few...YEP THAT JUSTIFIES IT!

 

[AristotleBC]

Seriously star*** you have no real conception of what the goals of these terrorist groups are...you seem to think they are angry about being 'oppressed' by the USA

 

[starfish]

Seriously star*** you have no real conception of what the goals of these terrorist groups are...you seem to think they are angry about being 'oppressed' by the USA

I never said that...get a CLUE if you are so smart.

 

[mountain muscle]

Bush is over there for oil...

If Bush killed Osama I would pat him on the back...


Make who dead...good luck figuring it out...but hey maybe if we kill a hundreds of thousands of innocent kids,women,soldiers ect..we will nab a few...YEP THAT JUSTIFIES IT!

I guess in your eyes all we do is kill innocent people over there and have no idea who we are fighting.

Where was your concern for the same innocents when Saddam made over a million of them disappear? Now we are the bad guys?

Oil is only a part of it and we sure as hell better export some of the oil to offset costs.

BTW who cares about justification now? We are there wether you agree or not. How do we win now and stabalize the region?
<It's starts by erradicating the extremists there>

 

[redguru]

Fine...I just fail to see how anyone thinks they are going to end terrorism by killing innocent people. You are only fueling the fire. Who are we at war with a noun! Terrorists? WHO? There will ALWAYS be people who hate the US. Take the wind out of their sails with their hatred towards us...I currently think we are only provoking them with Bush's greed and actions and innocent people are paying the price for his decisions so I SHOULD QUESTION HIM EVERYDAY and not be a little yes, man.

I WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO DO THAT FOR ME!

So you think that what happened yesterday would not have happened if we weren't in Iraq? I suppose that 9-11 wouldn't have happened if we didn't chew bubblegum and watch baseball. These are not cause and effect actions. The hatred that the militant extremists have for us does not stem from our actions in Iraq, they stem from the differences in ideology. They are not going to stop being terrorists any more than we are going to become a Soviet republic. We have to exterminate them, they don't listen to reason, force is the only option they understand as a position of strength. To attempt negotiation, is to invite attack. These aren't your neighbors arguing over whose lawn is greener, they will kill you just because you don't wear a burkha.

These barbaric idealists shield themselves with women and children just to elicit the responses you give as cause to end the conflict. Vietnam taught us at least one thing, America's military cannot be defeated on the battlefield but at home.

If what you wish is immediate peace, its possible. All you have to do (along with all other Americans) is accept Islam as your religion and adobt a government bound be the morays of Sharia(sic). It is the only way short of mortal conflict that will end this war.

 

[mountain muscle]

Vietnam taught us at least one thing, America's military cannot be defeated on the battlefield but at home./QUOTE]

Exactly. We better avoid that at all costs again.