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CENTURION44
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just curious
any hells angels on this site.....
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CENTURION44
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they are some of the baddest mothas on the planet....sure most of em use gear too....surprising...maybe they dont know how to use computers...lol
Deterass
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I've met several including a gorilla named "Tiny".......lol
I was in Sturgis and met Tiny at one of the many businesses that the Angels own there.This was a small bike shop.This guy was the biggest mfer i've ever seen in person.He's about 7' tall and had to weigh 400 lbs (mostly fat)We were talking about bikes and he pointed over to an ugly ass Harley that looked like a peice of shit and said that was his bike.I was like "yea thats a nice bike" lol
I've seen this guy on TV a few times since,it was the discovery channel or something like that on cable.I think he's a sergeant of arms or some shit.
I was in Sturgis and met Tiny at one of the many businesses that the Angels own there.This was a small bike shop.This guy was the biggest mfer i've ever seen in person.He's about 7' tall and had to weigh 400 lbs (mostly fat)We were talking about bikes and he pointed over to an ugly ass Harley that looked like a peice of shit and said that was his bike.I was like "yea thats a nice bike" lol
I've seen this guy on TV a few times since,it was the discovery channel or something like that on cable.I think he's a sergeant of arms or some shit.
CENTURION44
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slat1 said:
oh so its like the MOB...
pitbullstl
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jrc04444 said:
The local chapter is just across the river from St. Louis. I used to ride with them quite often, not so much anymore........it's harder and harder to get away with two girls and a prego wife.....
Mostly older quiet guys, who tend to keep to themselves.
Razorguns
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ceasar989 said:
Far from it.
The HA's are in a major flux and crisis level these days. I know a few and trust me, business *is* bad.
Hells Angels are almost insignificant and meaningless in most big US cities. They just don't have the #'s to compete against the MS-13's, 18th Streeters, Bloods, Cuban Mafia, Ricos, you name it.
And when you lose control of big cities, you lose control of big markets. When you lose control of big markets -- you lose dollars.
For example in la: The Hells Angels flourish in such exciting areas like Riverside, San Bernardino. Total white trash areas.
Unless you live in a trailer park in rural areas -- you'll probably never even see a HA ever in your life. So their existence is meaningless if you live in any medium to large-sized city.
I think Canada is a bit different due to a lack of hispanic/latin street gangs taking over the trade. But i believe they as well as Asian and Indo-Canadian gangs are making inroads slowly.
seizer
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Razorguns said:
Actually now that you mention it, the other gangs are rising. While the Hell's Angels are still decently sized here, there is a Tamel gang getting huge as well as some Korean and Chinese gangs. I can remember there names however lol. I'll have to look around for them.
But yeah, Tamels are getting huge here...like in Toronto, the Tamel Tigers...dont wanna fuck...but then again, they are more like a rebelion movement.
My friend in Toronto keeps me informed on different gang status cause he is in one...called the OLN.
Razorguns said:
The Hells Angels (and most of the Bandidos, their competitors) got owned back in 2001 during the Operation Spring 2001. Over a hundred of these fools were arrested and they had to build a special court house inside the provincial jail to host the hearings. The big heads are all locked up and the few remaining members no longer carry their colorful jackets.
But anyway, the HA were just middle-men for the different mafias around (Italian, Ukranian, russian, jew....). Now these same mafias are using unorganized street gangs for the same purpose. Mostly black and asian gangs with some wiggers around.
Razorguns
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manny78 said:
In Kalifornia -- it's even worse.
In our police state -- just being caught once with level III drugs, or even a gun or anythihg that causes a felony -- can mean a nice 3-5 year sentence.
HA's flourish in areas where there is lawlessness. Unfortunately few areas in Cali provide that environment.
Hard to have an organized, stable "club" when members are routinely locked up for 3-5 years and hence, out of operation.
So slowly, the HA's are becoming an "image only" club. Which -- laugh if you want -- really isn't a bad thing. There is no glory in being a criminal. They're going back to their *roots*. Being a *brotherhood*. Of course -- many in the organization, fueled by previous dollars -- are not happy being glorified mascots. Hence the flux and crisis going on. They want to expand, but there's nowhere to expand .. safely.
PBR
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the HA have a big presence in Ventura California...see them all the time up and down the freeway and in downtown ventura...they "own" the AVE. on the outskirts of town, near Ojai, ca....clubhouse is there, Geroge Christy (pres.) is all over the place with a few of his boys...theyre fairly cool, layed back most of the time...George got beat up real bad a while ago by a mexican gang here in my town...almost died.
pitbullstl
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Deterass said:
Yep.
I was way too straight laced to even be thought of, although I did get asked to one of their kids b-day parties.
Which is a compliment I suppose.....but I did learn a lot about them by riding with them on their Tuesday night rides.
wutangnomo
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manny78 said:
Remember when Mel Lastman got owned because he was caught welcoming the HA's at a hotel. Good ole Mel. lol
GoldenDelicious
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theres a strong HA presence where i live, and i chat to some of them here and there since im so often out and about 
but not to the bruisers or wannabes, since they piss me off rather severely and id just end up getting into brawls.
the ones i get along with well are the guys whose fathers/uncles are/were active players, and so theyre only in it because they grew up that way. nice down to earth guys who are very straight talkers, which i like.
the guys who wear the colors and are in it for the image need to have the hell beaten out of them imo. good thing that actually often happens lol
most of what you hear about them is bullshit, most of them would have their fat tattooed arses haded to them by any young/fit guy/soldier (lots of soldiers where i live, also) and theyre nowhere near as ferocious as they would like you to believe...like the time there was an MMA fight organised and one of the guys was a "tough bikie"...who jumped out of the ring and threw in the towel when his opponent started with the spinning heel kicks and high round kicks ...though there are some scumbags who deal with young girls that im looking forward to reading an obituary about 
but not to the bruisers or wannabes, since they piss me off rather severely and id just end up getting into brawls. the ones i get along with well are the guys whose fathers/uncles are/were active players, and so theyre only in it because they grew up that way. nice down to earth guys who are very straight talkers, which i like.
the guys who wear the colors and are in it for the image need to have the hell beaten out of them imo. good thing that actually often happens lol
most of what you hear about them is bullshit, most of them would have their fat tattooed arses haded to them by any young/fit guy/soldier (lots of soldiers where i live, also) and theyre nowhere near as ferocious as they would like you to believe...like the time there was an MMA fight organised and one of the guys was a "tough bikie"...who jumped out of the ring and threw in the towel when his opponent started with the spinning heel kicks and high round kicks
...though there are some scumbags who deal with young girls that im looking forward to reading an obituary about 
Breeze
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Deterass said:
The HA's aren't even close to being in a crisis.The FBI estimates they take in 1 billion dollars a year and only have about 2500 members so i think they're doing ok.
HA makes more money selling support clothing than drugs. They are hated by the Outlaws, Banditos, Mongols, Pagans, and every other significant club around. Forget about the Hell's, check out outlawsmc.com
Mammoth2500
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Theres still a strong presence in montreal. Alot of it does run through family cause blood can be trusted over anything else.
I know a HA that went to jail and got out after 3 years for a wrap he never did. He was protecting his uncle who is up there with the ring leaders.
I know a HA that went to jail and got out after 3 years for a wrap he never did. He was protecting his uncle who is up there with the ring leaders.
Scotsman
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I've seen a bunch of the angels at the bike events I've been to. They had a big booth at one bike show. Most of them are in their 50's or older and are "legitimate" business men now. Primarily onlly the young guys trying to rise through the ranks run the drugs now since the older guys know the feds watch them like hawks. The HA's don't bother you too much, the guys you really have to look out for are the "Soldiers for Jesus" emphasis on the soldier part.
Cheers,
Scotsman
Cheers,
Scotsman
Griz1
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I've known several HA's and I don't mind saying they were actually very nice people. As long as you don't fuck them off as an organization, they are generous, helpful, and overall great folks.
However. There is a criminal element associated with the HA's. Quite frankly, you wouldn't know about it though. HA's are very smart as and organization. They wear suits now, not colours. Colours are for ridin, suits are for workin. These guys are businessmen pure and simple. Under a microscope their businesses are definately...um...shady. Basically HA's know the golden rule. Don't shit where you eat.
To think of them as a bunch of hooligans on scooters would be severely underestimating them. To think of them as "behind the scenes" businessmen would be more accurate. Think of them as the Chamber of Commerce that you WOULDN'T fuck with.
Aside from business. I'd let the guys I know/knew babysit my kids in a second (even though some of them looked like the devil's apprentice...lol).
However. There is a criminal element associated with the HA's. Quite frankly, you wouldn't know about it though. HA's are very smart as and organization. They wear suits now, not colours. Colours are for ridin, suits are for workin. These guys are businessmen pure and simple. Under a microscope their businesses are definately...um...shady. Basically HA's know the golden rule. Don't shit where you eat.
To think of them as a bunch of hooligans on scooters would be severely underestimating them. To think of them as "behind the scenes" businessmen would be more accurate. Think of them as the Chamber of Commerce that you WOULDN'T fuck with.
Aside from business. I'd let the guys I know/knew babysit my kids in a second (even though some of them looked like the devil's apprentice...lol).
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Razorguns said:
Most of the expansion is going on overseas. The Outlaws, Banditos and Hells Angels have as many if not more members overseas as they do in America. The Outlaws have chapters all over Germany, England, Norway, Australia, they are even in Russia now. 1% clubs have changed, but the brotherhood is very real and that's what it's really about.
Razorguns
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Breeze said:
Yep.
It's a reflection of a new reality. When territory is lost - new territory must be obtained.
Funny reading about how HA's now sport business attire, and regular clothes. When the origins of the club were rooted in rebellion and a message against conformity of the elite. Now they've become one of the same.
michoncameoa
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meth use to be a ha game but hispanics have taken that away. big deal in oc back in 1995
