Any Heart Docs

[oubeta]

Hey guys,

I'm a long time EE member. Hit it hard in college. I'm 33 years old and have borderline high BP. I've done 3 big cycles back in college and was able to keep my BP somewhat under control.

I was born with a heart murmur. I'm a pilot so I have to have it checked out pretty regularly. I have Aortic Regurgitation and mild pulmonic valve leak. I talk to my heart doc about it and told him I wanted to run a 'mild' cycle and he said absolutely not with your heard condition. It will kill you. If any docs need the valve gradient I can look it up. Mine is well within FAA standards as I'm still flying.

I told him I've already run 3 heavy cycles in college and he said I was just lucky.

Do AAS really mess with the heart that much? If I can keep my BP under control do you think it would be that bad to do a 10 week 500mg Sus cycle?

I'm in good shape and at that point where I'm stuck and need some help to get over the hump. My diet is good and my BF is low, for my anyway.

Aslo what are some good supplements for the heart and BP? I just ordered some N2Guard which seems like it might help with my high BP.
Anyway it's good to be back even though I don't recognize many of you guys anymore.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Of the top if u have heart problems, AAS is a bad idea... Mind u I said idea. Ur gonna do what u want.

What does ur blood work say?

Test will cause water retention. Water retention will cause ur BP to elevate...

Personally, I think if ur not going to listen to ur heart doctor, u should seek a 2nd opinion on the matter. Hes not gonna tell u no for a reason.

Def stay away from hcg as it will sky rocket ur BP into unsafe levels. Is 10 xtra lbs really worth life threatning problems or worse... Ask urself that bro...



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[oubeta]

I've heard to many different opinions on the actual effects on the heart and heart valves. My heart doc is against all forms of AAS so he's probably not the best person to ask.
If I can keep my BP under control while on, what other effects do AAS have on your heart?

 

[stevesmi]

yes AAS will raise your RBC and blood volume.. your heart will be working harder. its a no go with your condition, im' not gonna tell you to even run a low dose of something like primo or var because i don't want your death on my consience

 

[oubeta]

I hear ya.

The cycles I can in college were pretty massive and I didint' have any issues, but I was a lot younger then.
I ran 3 12 week cycles 1500-2000mg sus, dbal 5 weeks, and tren and my BP was high, but came down after I got off and finished my PCT.

My condition is very mild and only effects the heart valves. I've heard that AAS really don't effect the valves of the heart that much.
I would really like to find a doc who is familiar with AAS that I can talk with and describe my condition in more detail.
Most people hear 'heart valve problem' and automatically say don't do it. I'm looking for specifics as to my particular condition.

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yeah you can experiment with low doses of something mild.. masteron, primo, var. i wouldn't mess with tren, deca, or even test to be honest.

keep a close eye on your bp, and run bloods during the cycle.. be your own doctor.. heck i would get bloods weekly. a full hormone panel.. will run you 50 bucks each time. but atleast you will be able to chart how different AAS effect you. i would be curious to see your blood results so please come back and post if you do it.

 

[Arabian]

Im with Steve and the rest of the guys, however if you still want to consider a cycle, at least go under a TRT specialist and get their advice and also your regular cardiologist. Just my 2 cents worth however you will suffer high blood pressure with steroids regards of the dose over time. Best of luck to you and I gifted you a platinum membership and I encourage you to check out our other forums.

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Arabian

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

Im not a heart doctor, but i wouldnt risk it bro.... Thats alot to worry about...

 

[snooch pounder]

I'm no doc, but let me recommend a natty sup they preach on here. It's called HCGenerate and it works wonders for me. I was really skeptical about all these things they ram down ur throat on this site...until I tried HCGen! But, honestly, I got almost the same results off cycle on it as I did on my two test only cycles! No shit. And my libido was even more pronounced from this stuff as it was on test! Love that stuff. The pumps r not near the same as gear, but everything else is absolutely awesome! And just to echo the other replies....I wouldn't risk 15 lbs of muscle for ANY type of heart risks that u might be prone to. Not worth it. Good luck to ya.

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[Power36]

HCG raises BP?
Shoot i was always borderline...needed HRT, its still borderline but I try to donate blood every 3 months for the RBC count issue, and didnt know HCG could be keeping it higher too?