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Any Guides On Starting First Cycle

I Am 38 Yrs Old And Have Not Used Steroids Since I Was In My Early Twenties. Since Things Have Probably Changed Dramatically Since Then I Was Wondering What Would Be A Good Cycle To Start Out With. Back Then, I Had Taken Test, Deca, Anadrol And Dianabol.over The Course Of About 2 Yrs. I Have Studied Much About Them From The Different Web Sites , But Nothing Beats First Hand Knowledge.
Would Like To Know
1.what Kind 2.how Much Per Week 3. For How Many Weeks 4. Do I Need To Take Any Anti- Estrogen Type Drug( New To Me)

- I Am About 190 Lbs Now Would Like To Gain Quite A Bit Of Mass For About 4-6 Months Then Do A Cycle To Cut Up.

Would Appreciate Any Advice I Could Get. Thx.
 
well, it's late and I'm hiting the sack soon but first off why don't you tell us what exactely did you do in your early 20's first?
How much you took, results etc
 
Cant remeber alot of the details, I know I gained the most from anadrol. got over 200 lbs quick from about 170. Seemed to be hard on my liver though had some jaundice going on around the whites of my eyes. All in all, its been about 16 or 17 yrs so i wil be sorta starting from scratch again. Still remember how to give the shots though, had to do that for my wifes birth control depo.
 
PUMPIN IRON MAIDEN said:
Cant remeber alot of the details, I know I gained the most from anadrol. got over 200 lbs quick from about 170. Seemed to be hard on my liver though had some jaundice going on around the whites of my eyes. All in all, its been about 16 or 17 yrs so i wil be sorta starting from scratch again. Still remember how to give the shots though, had to do that for my wifes birth control depo.

To gain a fair amount of muscle Test/deca will yield some good results....T e s t/D e c a/D b o l is even better, the choice is yours. Maybe 500mg t e s t/300mg d e c a is a good start. Since you did some gear I assume you had no trouble with gyno but have letro/adex on hand to keep estro at bay regardless. T e s t only cycle is not the best IMO b/c most of the gains made are quickly lost after the cycle-at least that's what I noticed. Many will disagree but I can't argue with what I experienced.

PCT is one of those things that everybody does it different. My PCT's are lengthy and kind of complicated to list and is based on my experiences +compounds used. However, regardless what PCT course you chose use HCG at the end for 3 weeks before PCT-750Iu E4D. After that make sure your estro is low and stable so you do not have a rebound after the nolva/clomid is ended.

Other choices for your cycle,
Test/EQ
Test/primo
Test/Tren (more advanced maybe down the road).
 
big greg 82 said:
get started with test only.

Wks 1-10 test 500mg

Yep... Right on!

Like needto said HAVE some femera on hand(how do you think I know this?)
Have your pct meds also ready to go.

I'm 36 and ran LOW 250mg ew test only cycles and had great results. Everyone is different so 500 sounds good.

Good luck bro... a lot has changed but a lot is still the old school stuff.

BigGuy
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Yep... Right on!

Like needto said HAVE some femera on hand(how do you think I know this?)
Have your PCT - post cycle therapy - meds also ready to go.

I'm 36 and ran LOW 250mg ew test only cycles and had great results. Everyone is different so 500 sounds good.

Good luck bro... a lot has changed but a lot is still the old school stuff.

BigGuy
whats up bro say something funny tonight I need a goos laugh lol
 
needtogetaas said:
whats up bro say something funny tonight I need a goos laugh lol

Nothing really funny happening tonight???

I was just over at evilb's mothers house with like 9 other guys and now I'm going over to the neighbor's house to borrow some crisco...
Looks like its gana be another long night. :qt:

Well I better get back there before Ghost starts doing his Ronnie t-bar ass smash'in move on her again.(Not pretty!) :worried:
 
PUMPIN IRON MAIDEN said:
I Am 38 Yrs Old And Have Not Used Steroids Since I Was In My Early Twenties. Since Things Have Probably Changed Dramatically Since Then I Was Wondering What Would Be A Good Cycle To Start Out With. Back Then, I Had Taken Test, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , Anadrol And Dianabol.over The Course Of About 2 Yrs. I Have Studied Much About Them From The Different Web Sites , But Nothing Beats First Hand Knowledge.
Would Like To Know
1.what Kind 2.how Much Per Week 3. For How Many Weeks 4. Do I Need To Take Any Anti- Estrogen Type Drug( New To Me)

- I Am About 190 Lbs Now Would Like To Gain Quite A Bit Of Mass For About 4-6 Months Then Do A Cycle To Cut Up.

Would Appreciate Any Advice I Could Get. Thx.

the stuff back then was prolly alot better then most of todays stuff...
 
Don't. If you mess this up or your body reacts badly then you will be shut down HARD. Does impotence, depression, bitch tits, thyroid problems, etc sound like fun to you ??



If so we may see you on the TRT/HRT forums in a less than happy mood. I hope that doesn't happen.
 
Thanks guys for all the info. Seems almost like another life back then its been so long. Back at the grind now, goin at it like a madman, got to make sure to be careful though;Not a spring chicken anymore.

If I go with a test/deca cycle, I would assume still 10 weeks? Also how many shots a week? Do I need to do any type of cycle up toward 5wks then down, or remain constant? And one more q, (I know Im asking alot)femera on hand, Does this mean use definitely or not?Bear with me guys!
 
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