anxiety/obssesive personality

[WARBIRDWS6]

What is the drug of choice for social anxiety/obsessive overthinking of stupid shit. you know, when you obsess over the dumbest things like ex-girlfriends and wonder "why this" and "why that". just overthinking and causing yourself anxiety over it. and also having a secondary problem of being overly socially paranoid. like everyone is "looking at you too hard", or people in general just piss you off. doing a search on this is more confusing than anything else. seems more people comment on depression meds, but there has to be something that helps with anxiety and nonsense obsessive thinking. and no i won't smoke pot or drink. i can get inositol powder dirt cheap at work, but wasn't sure if it is for depression or what. of course i can get ahold of all the other stuff like wellbutrin/paxil/efexor etc etc. anybody with these mental problems that found something that helps, please comment.

 

[Big Moose]

Paxil is the drug of choice for Social Anxiety Disorder. A combination of Wellbutrin and Effexor can also be effective with less side effects. Explain to your Dr. what you are experiencing and he/she will be able to help.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

yeah i heard good things about the wellbutrin/efexor combo in the searches. that seems like an expensive option, but if it works then i guess its worth the money. paxil seemed like it got some votes, but also seemed to have so many sides. very confusing like i said, which route to go. i know i am supposed to see a doc and all, but i hate to see doctors. part of the social anxiety disorder. that would mean seeing a bunch of people i don't want to interact with, the secratary...the doctor...people in the waiting room....its hard leaving the house except for work. very pathetic i must say.

 

[Big Moose]

It's sounds like your in a pretty bad place. You may want to have a friend or family member go to the Dr. with you. It may make it a little easier. Just think if you could take that one step, ti can only get better from there.

 

[Spidey]

I've been on Wellbutrin for years. It worked well for me at first with no sexual dysfunction sides but lately it hasn't been working for me as well. I tried Effexor and had a really bad experience. That stuff made me feel like shit; really irritable. My doc has switched me to Celexa but still to early to tell if that's going to work for me. I know people who take Paxil and swear by it. I would try that or Wellbutrin. Ask your doc about those two. The only bad thing for me about SSRI's is the appetite suppression. It is hard for me to eat the way I need to build.

-Spidey

 

[natedogg03]

I just started taking paxil this week. I've never used any meds before so i'm hoping this can help with my anxiety. I did have a shitty ass lift today though, i felt real weak.......does anyone know if paxil makes you tired/weak?

 

[muscle_geek]

I would suggest trying natural supplementation. Its working for me.

6g Inositol
1g Sam-E

Daily.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Well, its really not all that bad.....just the personal life thing. i just bought a new house, new furniture, new sony computer, new siberian husky, i got the two cars pictured that are my dream cars. pretty satisfied with the whole workout/supp situation, but like i was saying to an ex-girlfriend last night on the phone.....having all the material things doesn't always help make the personal problems go away. she said how about having a shitty personal life and no material possessions like her. lol. friggin women. You try to forget the past, and then it always happens you get a call or see someone that brings it all back. i told them all to leave me the hell alone and it seems i got everyone to respect that, so lets see if it works.
i go to work tommorow at GNC, so i am going to pick up a big ass bottle of inositol powder and some 5-HTP. we pulled the Sam-E off the shelf and i can't seem to find out why. so i don't have easy access to it, and i try to buy all my supps at work for cost. i hear 5-HTP is good, so i'll use it in place of the Sam-E. if that don't work, maybe paxil or wellbutrin. just so damn expensive.......got your natural supps and protein supps, "pharmaceutical" supps like AAS and the accessory drugs, regular food, and now add more pharmaceuticals to the mix. maybe its better being obssessive and anxious........maybe not. Thing that sucks is that around here the drug dealers pick up inositol powder and cut it with their coke. so now my boss will think i am on drugs. jesus christ, how do i explain that its for anxiety................

 

[Nathan]

Don't self medicate. Do a search onsome of my posts on this matter. Have you ben diagnosed with anything? I am about to start valproate for my bi-polar disorder, obsessive compulsive disorder, social anxiety disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder. See? I'm far more of a winner than you could ever be.

Seriously though,go to a doc. Took me a while to figure it all out but I'm seeing someone now who is helping meeven though I'm on gear.

 

[Ffactor]

I've been on paxil for more than a year now. it's working great.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Doctors are usually pretty stupid if you ask me. i feel like i know more than them half the time. i'll tell them i obsess over everything in my mind, and i have no tolerance for other people in public places and want to kill everyone........then they will tell me to take paxil or something and i just paid a shitload of money to figure out what some of you can tell me from experience for free. well, whenever i get a job that has medical benefits i will probably go anyway. i had a job with full benefits for like 9 years, and now the last year or two i haven't had a normal job. just jobs where i make good money under the table. my mother would love me to go to the psych doc. she says i am crazy when she see's me go off the hinges and pitch a fit yelling and stomping around. lol. i can control that shit for the most part, but the other problems are hard to handle. tough to just stop obsessing and being anxious in general w/o some mediaction. i need a good girl like i used to have in my early/mid 20's, to keep me normal. going from one crazy bitch to another, or being alone, is what brings it on. tough to find a cute girl with good morals nowadays that won't fuck with your head.

 

[Watson]

I know EXACTLY how you feel bro, I do the same thing every fucking day, and I can't even begin to tell you how much it effects my life. I can't be alone, and I can't seem to find a girl that won't fuck with my head, so I put up with my current girlfreinds shit, and she is unbelievably phsyco. I constantly obsess on the past, and every bad thing thats ever happened to me. My OCD is so bad that it takes me half an hour to leave the house, because of my stupid little routines that I must do. I'm going to the doctor next week to try to get some help. Good luck.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

I have mainly been in the "alone" category lately, not sure if its better to be alone or with someone you don't want to be with. i tend to get "jealous" of ex's who are with guys they hate and have no real feelings for, since i am alone. so i wish i could just get with someone i could give a shit about, and not be alone. but i think it is even more unhealthy to be with some just to be with someone. And with my standards, finding ms. right is near impossible. i figured there would be a few people who knew what i was feeling. good luck with the route your taking.

 

[valerie]

In all honesty in the condition you are in you are likely to attract people who are just as needy as you are. Perhaps getting your shit together and getting on some meds will help you realize that the truth is you don't need anyone. Who wants to be with someone who is needy? Why not try to become a whole person and then you will attract the same? Trying to blame the outside world for your head trip just keeps you from realising the truth. You are in the condition you are because of choices you have made up to this point. Until you realize that nothing will change and you will be like the rest of the idiots in this world. We all make up little stories to tell ourselves why things are the way they are. Why not challenge or at least question why you value being so fucked up ? If you did not value it , it would have been taken care long ago.

This is harsh but hey its all your choice and at some level you can recognize this . If our lives arent working we only have one person to blame. If you were to look closely( a big if) you might just see how you set it up so you fail.

There are no perfect people. There are no perfect women. But you can develope some awareness and see that perfection would not please you anyway. Its not about her, its about you.

 

[hard as rocks]

im in the same boat as a lot of guys here.i have ocd, which at times takes me a half hour to leave the house.i obsess over stupit things.
since the true love of my life is out of the pic, my ex fiance. i have been dating such pshycos.in reality this does not help me but i dont like to be alone, which is a big problem of mine.
it took me months of not sleeping and not leaving my house before i saw a doc.
now im on trazadone for sleep.
i always worry about other people and not myself.always seem to be supporting someone or trying to make someones elses life better while mine is struggling.
i have my good and bad days.
and one of my biggest problems is muscle dysmorphia.im never satisfied with my size, while others think im huge i feel tiny or fat most of the time.
oh well im rambling, but def go see somebody or if your like me i have a loving family which really helps me through.

 

[Dr.M]

For anxiety, you might want to give St Johns Wort a try if you haven't already, its an OTC readily available herb. If your really bad off though you may need prescription goods. Kava kava is another OTC, there are several - search google.

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

In all honesty in the condition you are in you are likely to attract people who are just as needy as you are. Perhaps getting your shit together and getting on some meds will help you realize that the truth is you don't need anyone. Who wants to be with someone who is needy? Why not try to become a whole person and then you will attract the same? Trying to blame the outside world for your head trip just keeps you from realising the truth. You are in the condition you are because of choices you have made up to this point. Until you realize that nothing will change and you will be like the rest of the idiots in this world. We all make up little stories to tell ourselves why things are the way they are. Why not challenge or at least question why you value being so fucked up ? If you did not value it , it would have been taken care long ago.

This is harsh but hey its all your choice and at some level you can recognize this . If our lives arent working we only have one person to blame. If you were to look closely( a big if) you might just see how you set it up so you fail.

There are no perfect people. There are no perfect women. But you can develope some awareness and see that perfection would not please you anyway. Its not about her, its about you.

goddamnit. i have a mental illness, you should be nice to me. you know, we were having fun in here feeling sorry for ourselves and bashing psycho women.........and you come in here and ruin it. J/K........ some of what you say is true. you sound like the "psychic" lady who works next door to me. she tells me all kinds of shit about me she couldn't have known, and usually gives me the "get your spirituality straight" or "step outside yourself and give a look over". i guess your right, its almost like you have to like it to not do something about it. i am certainly intelligent enough to figure out i have some problems. At the times i was actually happy, its like i try to ruin it to be unhappy again. Well, since i can't really afford to do the doctor thing right now, i will put some money towards some medication to see if that helps. i am getting 48 paxil soon. i'll try 20mg a day. for the time being i'll try the natural (inositol and 5HTP). i think i am cursed though........i was given the perfect girl when i was 21, and i let it go on and on for like 6 years until it was too late we broke up for a long while. now its just not the same, even though i tried to go back and make things right. after too much time your feelings change. almost like i fucked up and lost the one special girl (well she still wants me, i just don't feel the same for her in a boyfriend/girlfriend way) and i am screwed for the rest of my life. or maybe i do attract the "wrong" girls because of my problems. i have always said that to be true, and i guess its something about me that attracts them my way.

 

[Amp]

My doc has tried a few different ssri's for me. Right now we are sticking with Wellbutrin which works through a different pathway and isn't considered and ssri. since I don't get many sides from it I've like it so far. Zoloft worked the best by far but gave me terrible sexual sides. Celexa worked o.k. and didn't have many sexual sides but it only worked o.k.

The best thing I ever used for social anxiety disorder was 20 drinks, usually not afraid to be in a group at that point but usually noone can understand what I am saying.

I also keep a small stash of xanax all the time. If your anxiety is really high and you need a quick fix one or two of those can do wonders. The other things need to build up in your system and some days they just don't do the trick so I add a little extra. But I do it sparingly so as not to become dependant on xanax. I just depend on it when I really need it

 

[tybz28]

Im in the same boat as all you buys too. Im 21 and have been fighting with ocd since i was like 6. I have social anxiety too. Took almost every med that has been mentioned so far. Could never tell a differnece with any of them. Im on xanax at 1mg everyday now. It seems to help a little. I needed to lose weight too and didnt have confience. So now i work out as hard as i can and eat right. That has helped me, but like in certain siuations im uncomfortable. Like in a crowded bar, i will sweat. It' hard to talk to girls. Way hard. And right now i cant even go back to school cause i get so nervous my stomach gets upset and makes noises like im starvin all the time. God this is a bad disease. Holds you back from your dreams. Keep fightin bros, and i will too. Throw me some suggestions on meds too if you can, maybe i should combine my xanax with somethin like paxil.

 

[Amp]

Im in the same boat as all you buys too. Im 21 and have been fighting with ocd since i was like 6. I have social anxiety too. Took almost every med that has been mentioned so far. Could never tell a differnece with any of them. Im on xanax at 1mg everyday now. It seems to help a little. I needed to lose weight too and didnt have confience. So now i work out as hard as i can and eat right. That has helped me, but like in certain siuations im uncomfortable. Like in a crowded bar, i will sweat. It' hard to talk to girls. Way hard. And right now i cant even go back to school cause i get so nervous my stomach gets upset and makes noises like im starvin all the time. God this is a bad disease. Holds you back from your dreams. Keep fightin bros, and i will too. Throw me some suggestions on meds too if you can, maybe i should combine my xanax with somethin like paxil.

Try 15-20 drinks with hard liqour. I'm never afraid to talk to chicks then. They just can't understand me and I have a hard time standing.

 

[Testo]

Im in the same boat as all you buys too. Im 21 and have been fighting with ocd since i was like 6. I have social anxiety too. Took almost every med that has been mentioned so far. Could never tell a differnece with any of them. Im on xanax at 1mg everyday now. It seems to help a little. I needed to lose weight too and didnt have confience. So now i work out as hard as i can and eat right. That has helped me, but like in certain siuations im uncomfortable. Like in a crowded bar, i will sweat. It' hard to talk to girls. Way hard. And right now i cant even go back to school cause i get so nervous my stomach gets upset and makes noises like im starvin all the time. God this is a bad disease. Holds you back from your dreams. Keep fightin bros, and i will too. Throw me some suggestions on meds too if you can, maybe i should combine my xanax with somethin like paxil.

I feel exactly the same way, i have low self esteem but always try and act very confident to hide this. Sometimes i feel great about myself and other times i feel like shit if i stop and dwell on things too much. I dont have a gf and a lot of this could be down to feeling lonely etc, I have trouble approaching girls in bars\clubs due to fear of rejection and that it will make me feel worse.
I never thought of taking any meds for this though, do you think i need it?

 

[bababouie]

Try to deal first before medicating

Just deal with life's rough waters. Being afraid of rejection is not a medical condition. Guess what? Most guys are afraid of rejection but deal with it. Being shy is not a medical condition. It's a personality issue ( not even a disorder ). Don't medicate yourselves just to work around your personality issues. You won't be yourselves anymore. Try to work out of your problems yourselves. I don't want to be mean here. I used to be very shy with females long time ago and probably still am. I just hide it well, I act confident and it works....Only seek medication if your personality is reaching extremes where you may hurt yourselves and/others others ( physically and/or emotionally ). I think we as a society try to cover up our individual traits with meds. How great, we can all be happy smiling automatons with no bad feelings. Why don;t we all lie in a bed and get fed opium all day? That will keep us all happy.

 

[drveejay11]

Paxil is the drug of choice for Social Anxiety Disorder. A combination of Wellbutrin and Effexor can also be effective with less side effects. Explain to your Dr. what you are experiencing and he/she will be able to help.

Good sensible advice here bro....NO ONE should play "doctor" on this one! Make an appointment!

 

[FullCircle]

Rather than seeking help with a pill pushing doctor who really doesn't understand mental health, and gives out drugs that aren't proven beneficial long term, I would highly recommend attacking the problem rather than the symptoms. Sure popping some pills may take some of the negative feelings away (temporarily), but until you get to the root of it and make some self realiztions, you are always going to be plagued by it. Seritonin has never even been proven to be the cause of anxiety, and similar disorders. It plays a factor obviously, but isn't necessarily the problem. You know that we don't even know really how wellbutrin acts on the nervous system, and its method of action? To take something like that is a little crazy. (this is current to my knowledge...I haven't looked into it for a while)

Man, I've been there before. Been on paxil, celexa, effexor, buspar, ativan, xanax, and valium at one point or another. Somtimes I felt better, but they all had side effects, and as soon as I quit taking them I realized that not only were the problems still there, but I had been dulling my sense of self awareness, and it was most often worse when I quit (formation of dependance).

I would recommend talking to the doctor for a regular checkup and some bloodwork (low thyroid levels can effect you in that way), but before you start popping pills that very likely have some long term side effects, try the inositol/sam-e route, and talk to the Psychotherapist. NOT a counseler, not a psychologist, not a psychiatrist (although many psychotherapists are doctors, licensed shrinks...ect as well). Until I did that, and realized some things about myself, I was all screwed up mentally (taking a cocktail of doctor and Psychiatrist prescribed pills didn't help).

Another recommendation, read a couple books about SSRI's and like drugs. The one that made me realize I was going about the problem all wrong was "Toxic Psychiatry" by doctor Peter Breggins. You'd be surprised that many of the drugs available on the market were only tested for a period of weeks, on less than 200 subjects before being released to the public. And, during these tests, some were shown to make problems worse in the long run (why they released them anyway is beyond me).

In any case, I wish you the best of luck as I've been there and know what your going through. Stay strong, take chances, and you'll realize you got a lot more going for you than is readily apparent. Really, really research these drugs before you take any of them. Medline is a good place to start, as you need non-biased info that is hard to come by with the pharm companies dumping billions fo dollars into thier marketing.

-FC

 

[JMasters]

Paxil Changed my life for the better. After 2 months on you can see a noticable difference in your life. Start at a low dose though, 20 mg and see how that works. If nothing after 1 month then go to 30.

--JMasters

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

I feel exactly the same way, i have low self esteem but always try and act very confident to hide this. Sometimes i feel great about myself and other times i feel like shit if i stop and dwell on things too much. I dont have a gf and a lot of this could be down to feeling lonely etc, I have trouble approaching girls in bars\clubs due to fear of rejection and that it will make me feel worse.
I never thought of taking any meds for this though, do you think i need it?

sounds exactly like me. everyone thinks i am a self-confident arrogant tough guy who has plenty of women beause of how i look and carry myself. meanwhile i am a social nightmare due to fear of any type of rejection. its tough not to dwell on the dumb shit, but there is no avoiding it for some reason. like you said, when i don't overthink the bad stuff....i feel pretty damn good. they need to make a pill that makes you not think of negative past experiences. seems we are getting lots of good info/advice in this thread, and also it seems there are a lot of us affected by one or the other.......OCD or social anxiety. started on Inositol today.........taking 7 grams a day. got a 227 gram bottle of powder for like 6 bucks at my GNC. i get it for cost, but guess what it is marked? 90 fucking dollars! i looked it up in the order book and lo and behold its a 89% markup. i almost shit at the sight of that.

 

[Spartacus]

sounds exactly like me. everyone thinks i am a self-confident arrogant tough guy who has plenty of women beause of how i look and carry myself. meanwhile i am a social nightmare due to fear of any type of rejection. sounds just like my situation..to make a long story short..I wne ton paxil after mydivorce 4 years ago..started feeling better in the first week..the med really helped and things were much brighter/better..then I encountered the anaorgasmic side effect..well I weaned myself over to serzone...and serzone seemed to keep my anxities/depression stable,didn't feel as good as with paxil..but i felt i was being heLped..still very socially self-conscious,but no outright panic attacks,which I had been prone to in the past..well after about 3 years of serzone I switched to buspar...it had been about a year since I had a g/f and well time to switch meds and "shake-up" the social life...after 6 months of buspar I couldn't get my scrip filled one day as I had doubled my dosage on my own,and it was too soon to refill...so I wnet without as an experiment..I also had just received 2 kilos of fresh inositol powder form vitaspace.com and started "inositol therapy" at about 12 grams a day..after 4 weeks I feel great..sometimes these meds have the opposite effect..inositol seems to help the neurotransmitters communicate..esp if you are heavy caffiene consumer as I am(though I now only have morning coffee and no caffeine after noon)...I would suggest perhaps you get on paxil for a couple of months to "reset" yourself,then tpaer off when you feel better and go with inositol,5htp and/or sam-e...try 10+ grans a day of inositol..i through in 50-100mgs of 5htp occassionally before bed and/or when i feel a bit anxious

 

[triguy]

IVE BEEN THERE! AND BACK!

TOOK 2-3 YEARS BUT I DI IT!)

therapy+meds or supps+own research, work(book reading, soul searching)+ support(family,friends)

just dont give up!

a combo of stupid steroid use(deca alone for months & no post adaquet recovery) + xtcy use(stopping cold turkey about the time i came off deca) + evil girl + past childhood issues+ self realization of living a false life (pimp/party/mr cool guy) =

2-3 years of pussified,anxiety filled, self -doubting, balless hell.

But like i said the KID is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[WARBIRDWS6]

Re: IVE BEEN THERE! AND BACK!

evil girl

lol. the root of all problems.