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smallmovesal
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you sound a lot like me... my brother and sister are much stronger personalities and they used to pick on me.
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i know what that is like. i'm finally over most of my depression. therapy really helped. also i finally stopped letting people tell me who i was, this sounds strange but when it comes to peer pressure i was the worst. so much so that i was making myself depressed by being someone i wasn't. now i'm finally in a group of friends i like, i can just be me- i don't have to try. but it wasn't easy to get to this pointsmallmovesal said:
ps. i'm going to bed- good night, hope you don't have any nightmares (i also get them all the time, puc use to tell me a bed time story every night b4 i went to sleep)
smallmovesal
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thanks. night 
seeseerider
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smallmovesal said:
Small,read this all the way down... http://www.trans4mind.u-net.com/depression.html
I have a serious Anxiety disorder as well as clinical depression. I was always an anxious and 'sensitive' kid. I am on Paxil (anti-depressant) and Serzone (anti-anxeity).
I was diagnosed as my second marriage fell apart during the Spring of 1995. That makes 6 years on meds. I was also in counselling for about 3 years.
I would like to hear from someone who was diagnosed with severe clinical depression and who was able to cure it with dietary changes, herbs, self-help books, or counselling alone. The only people that claim to have done so all seem to be selling something.
I was diagnosed as my second marriage fell apart during the Spring of 1995. That makes 6 years on meds. I was also in counselling for about 3 years.
I would like to hear from someone who was diagnosed with severe clinical depression and who was able to cure it with dietary changes, herbs, self-help books, or counselling alone. The only people that claim to have done so all seem to be selling something.
WeaponX
I was clincally depressed for 6-7 years of my life, and I have social anxiety.
Im not completly over social anxiety but most of my depression has recessed.
I posted a good note on cognitive therapy on this thread. THats the ticket if you want to overcome depression without relying fully on meds. Cognitive therapy is scientifically proven to be as effective in treating severe depression as meds in the short term, and significantly more effasive than meds in preventing relapse.
Cognitive therapy basically helps u think more rationally and realistic. Its something u can practice everyday, and this repitition of cognitive exercises helps ur brain get into the routine of automatically thinking more positive.
It works like this. Most people feel like shit if someone tells them they are stupid or ugly for an extended period of time. Y? The person internalizes these negative remarks and eventually her brain begins to repeat them. The person unconsciously or consciously tell themselves "Im stupid, or no one will like me cause im ugly" and they get depressed. Cognitive therapy helps break up that negative irrational thinking by replacing automatic negative thoughts with more rational positive thoughts like "mabey, Im not as ugly as i used to think, and mabey more people like me than i once thought"
In this way the brain is forced to challenge these negative beliefs, and thank the lord, our brains are constructed so that rational realisitic thoughts are more powerful than negative beliefs.
I know it sounds kinda gay, but this is true . They way we think determines how we feel. If we are constantly thinking negative and self defeating thoughts, then how we feel is going to be shitty and depressed. When we learn to challenge these irrational beleifs that make us feel like shit, our depression recedes and we become happier and ourselves
theres some good info in my post in this thread. if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
What anxiety disorder do u have btw?
I was clincally depressed for 6-7 years of my life, and I have social anxiety.
Im not completly over social anxiety but most of my depression has recessed.
I posted a good note on cognitive therapy on this thread. THats the ticket if you want to overcome depression without relying fully on meds. Cognitive therapy is scientifically proven to be as effective in treating severe depression as meds in the short term, and significantly more effasive than meds in preventing relapse.
Cognitive therapy basically helps u think more rationally and realistic. Its something u can practice everyday, and this repitition of cognitive exercises helps ur brain get into the routine of automatically thinking more positive.
It works like this. Most people feel like shit if someone tells them they are stupid or ugly for an extended period of time. Y? The person internalizes these negative remarks and eventually her brain begins to repeat them. The person unconsciously or consciously tell themselves "Im stupid, or no one will like me cause im ugly" and they get depressed. Cognitive therapy helps break up that negative irrational thinking by replacing automatic negative thoughts with more rational positive thoughts like "mabey, Im not as ugly as i used to think, and mabey more people like me than i once thought"
In this way the brain is forced to challenge these negative beliefs, and thank the lord, our brains are constructed so that rational realisitic thoughts are more powerful than negative beliefs.
I know it sounds kinda gay, but this is true . They way we think determines how we feel. If we are constantly thinking negative and self defeating thoughts, then how we feel is going to be shitty and depressed. When we learn to challenge these irrational beleifs that make us feel like shit, our depression recedes and we become happier and ourselves
theres some good info in my post in this thread. if you have any questions, feel free to ask.
What anxiety disorder do u have btw?
smallmovesal
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seeseerider... we do have thyroid issues in my family and my mum did suggest i get it tested... i dunno. i'm going to call my doc or find someone in town t discuss what i should be doing. this is ridiculous and it makes me mad i even have to deal with this when i have too much else to do and this is just making life complicated. urr.
smallmovesal said:
Yeah, it is annoying...
Definitely though, have tests on anything in your family history...a competent doctor ought to know to test to see if you have some very physical-based issue such as underactive thyroid, before assuming anti-depressants is the only way to go, medically...
to know 'how bad' it is, think about whether you can have a really good time on a fun weekend with friends say, where you get away from 'normal life' or whether even that can't move you anymore, or whether you would just back out of something like that...those are the kinds of things that can tell you the difference between whether you are clinically depressed or rather seriously pissed off with your life, but not into clinical depression. (Anti-depressants are described for 'seriously pissed off' as well, I'm sure...I was just saying it's a way for you to know where you're at...if there are SOME things you still enjoy & love you are not in terrible shape smalls...just saying...but be safe if you get to the point of suicidal thoughts...DEFINITELY GO TELL SOMEONE LOCAL TO YOU THAT YOU TRUST if you ever start thinking suicide is a viable solution...or if you can't, then do call someone here, even...anything...but don't try to deal with that alone if it gets that bad, please...
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I would rather take med's than go to therapy. This could be because therapy has proven itself to me to be a waste of time. This is a personal opinion only, it probably/might help others, probably depends on the person.Maybe I never ran a therapist with the ability and willingness to help me, but I am not going to search forever, besides therapy is a lot more time consuming than taking med's.
The only problem I have is getting the med's. The doctors I've seen will prescribe ssri's, and other "non-addicting" med's very easy...well pretty easily, if you ask for prozac, they may give you paxil..just because you asked for prozac and thats not good.
I've had a terrible time getting benzo's, they are the only thing that has helped me. In addition I"m also trying to acquire ADD med's...having a hell of a time.. None of the doctors I have seen actually try to help you and care. Some pretend they do till you question them.
Maybe this is slighty off topic from anti-depressents, but just sneaking it in,hopefully if its cool with everyone. Anyone else have a similar scenario where the doc's are not willing to prescribe benzo's or only short-term? I hear its very common.
The only problem I have is getting the med's. The doctors I've seen will prescribe ssri's, and other "non-addicting" med's very easy...well pretty easily, if you ask for prozac, they may give you paxil..just because you asked for prozac and thats not good.
I've had a terrible time getting benzo's, they are the only thing that has helped me. In addition I"m also trying to acquire ADD med's...having a hell of a time.. None of the doctors I have seen actually try to help you and care. Some pretend they do till you question them.
Maybe this is slighty off topic from anti-depressents, but just sneaking it in,hopefully if its cool with everyone. Anyone else have a similar scenario where the doc's are not willing to prescribe benzo's or only short-term? I hear its very common.
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