Anti-Semitism

[thebabydoc]

All the more reason why the issue should be questioned. Who gives a fuck what idiots like Babydoc think?

Idiot? Anyone who thinks making all-encompassing statements regarding an entire race of people isn't bigotry is just plain ignorant. You are a fucking ignorant pussy, punk.

Back to the topic. I have never accused anyone of being anti-semitic merely because they were against the USA's support of Israel. Fuck the USA on this point. Israel can do pretty well on it's own, and anyone who thinks that it's not in our best interests to support Israel had better open up a history book and a map of the Middle East.

When I have called people out on the topic of Israel it has been because their coments have been blatantly anti-Jewish (e.g. "ZNN" as in Jews control the media, blah,blah, blah...) or their arguments have been pulled from flagrantly anti-semitic sources. I also find it apalling how ANYONE can express sympathy for the plight of people and a culture who resort to terrorism as a means to an end. American embassies, naval vessels, and buildings have all been attacked by the animals raised by this culture. However, instead of recognizing the symmetry and similarity between Israel's plight and ours, anti-Zionists, mostly blinded by their blatant anti-semitism, try to blame Israel for our plight.

 

[Norman Bates]

Disagreeing with Israel´s politics does not make you an antisemite.

 

[thebabydoc]

That's why I specified anti-Zionist. Being anti-Jewish and painting the entire race/religion with the same brush makes one an anti-semite. Or do all goyim not know how to read?

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, ARIEL SHARON,OCTOBER 3 2001

 

[thebabydoc]

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, ARIEL SHARON,OCTOBER 3 2001

almost looks like a real quote except one little word was changed, let's try it the way it was spoken...

"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control Israel, and the Americans know it."

- ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, ARIEL SHARON,OCTOBER 3 2001

BTW, ever hear of a little thing called "political rhetoric"?

 

[MkZk]

Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control Israel, and the Americans know it

Care to put up a link to where u found this?

 

[posthuman]

thebabydoc,do you think it's possible that the fact that you are jewish affects your opinion on these issues i.e emotion comes into play?

This is not a flame but simply an observation.It hard to remove emotion for everyone.Same goes for a palestinian.It's unlikely to find a palestinian who is pro-israeli.

 

[the nature boy]

That's why I specified anti-Zionist. Being anti-Jewish and painting the entire race/religion with the same brush makes one an anti-semite. Or do all goyim not know how to read?

well you called me a jew hater too, because I'm not a big fan of isreal. you seem to paint with a broad brush yourself dude.

 

[thebabydoc]

Care to put up a link to where u found this?

As soon as Hushpuppy does, so will I.

Originally posted by NatureBoy
well you called me a jew hater too, because I'm not a big fan of isreal. you seem to paint with a broad brush yourself dude

First, learn how to spell Israel, and don't tell me "it's a typo". In debating it helps to use correct spelling and grammer, uh grammar. When you don't even know how to spell the topic you're discussing or which words are Proper Nouns (i.e. must be capitalized- like Jews, Israel) it doesn't lend much credence to your knowledge of the topic.

Secondly, if I ever called you a "Jew-hater" and if you can actually pull out that reference, let's all go back and read the context around which it was posted and what you might have said to ellicit such a statement. If you're still not sure, reference my last post to MkZk.

And posthuman, yes, I am entirely aware that my Judiasm biases my opinion. I am actually enlightened enough that I can actually see and understand what pro-Palestinians claim as the reasons why such terrorism is acceptable. Problem is, this kind of terrorism is NEVER acceptable. This has nothing to do with my "Jewish" bias. State-sponsored terrorism against specifically identified targets (which truly does not fall under terrorism but rather assasination) is an ENTIRELY different beast. And yes, there are plenty of pro-Israeli Palestinians- those are the ones who DID NOT and DO NOT support Arafat, who worked in Israel prior to this mess, and even had the opportunity to vote previously.

 

[The_Mexican]

Why does the term anti-semite even exist??? A term that exists solely to describe a jew hater. There's no such anti-black or anti chinese term. Just an observation.

 

[the nature boy]

As soon as Hushpuppy does, so will I.

First, learn how to spell Israel, and don't tell me "it's a typo". In debating it helps to use correct spelling and grammer, uh grammar. When you don't even know how to spell the topic you're discussing or which words are Proper Nouns (i.e. must be capitalized- like Jews, Israel) it doesn't lend much credence to your knowledge of the topic.

Secondly, if I ever called you a "Jew-hater" and if you can actually pull out that reference, let's all go back and read the context around which it was posted and what you might have said to ellicit such a statement. If you're still not sure, reference my last post to MkZk.

who cares if I spell wrong? this isn't fucking english class is it? and just because you corrected me, I'll continue to spell it "isreal" and "jew". it's more fun that way.


and I do stand corrected, you said I was anti-jew.



here's the thread.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=189788&highlight=antijew

 

[Ffactor]

who cares if I spell wrong? this isn't fucking english class is it? and just because you corrected me, I'll continue to spell it "isreal" and "jew". it's more fun that way.


and I do stand corrected, you said I was anti-jew.



here's the thread.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=189788&highlight=antijew

So basically, the gist of this thread is that there are a lot of jews in isreal!

 

[the nature boy]

no, the jist of the thread is that crybabydoc said I was anti-jew and he is wrong about that.

edited.

 

[Ffactor]

no, the jist of the thread is that anti-jew and babydoc is wrong about that.

Ahhhh...would you say that jews sound very similar to juice and can be quite misleading at times??

 

[the nature boy]

you forgot to capitalize the word "jews". this is probably a criteria for being anti-jew according to babydoc.

 

[MkZk]

As soon as Hushpuppy does, so will I.

Babydoc, u posted what Sharon said on Oct 3 2001 on this thread. I would like to know where u got it from. This has nothing to do with Hounddog. Where the fuck did u find the quote? U pulled it out of your jewish ass?

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

The 10 rules of jewish nationalism.

. If a territory had been ours for 500 years, and yours for 50 years, it belongs to us - you are merely residents.

2. If a territory was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it belongs to us - borders must not be changed.

3. If a territory had been ours 2500 years ago, but never since, it belongs to us for it is the "Cradle of our Nation."

4. If a majority of our people live there, the country belongs to us - they must enjoy the universal right of self-determination.

5. If a minority of our people live there, the country belongs to us - they must enjoy the universal right of a minority and hence be protected against your oppression.

6. Our greed for expansion is really a Historical Necessity whilst your desire for self-determination must be categorized as Fascism.

7. Celebrating our Ethnic Heritage (real or invented) is a sacred duty to God whilst yours is only racism.

8. Inventing accomplishments for our people gives us a sense of worth. Your accomplishments will be erased with the help of your own kind.

9. When we shout "Death to the Goyim (non-Jews)" it should be understood as a pure act of kindness and understanding. However, if non-Jews demand Human Rights for themselves it is considered one a hate crimes against the children of Israel.

10. All the above rules apply to us but not to you.

 

[Puc]

The 10 rules of jewish nationalism.

. If a territory had been ours for 500 years, and yours for 50 years, it belongs to us - you are merely residents.

2. If a territory was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it belongs to us - borders must not be changed.

3. If a territory had been ours 2500 years ago, but never since, it belongs to us for it is the "Cradle of our Nation."

4. If a majority of our people live there, the country belongs to us - they must enjoy the universal right of self-determination.

5. If a minority of our people live there, the country belongs to us - they must enjoy the universal right of a minority and hence be protected against your oppression.

6. Our greed for expansion is really a Historical Necessity whilst your desire for self-determination must be categorized as Fascism.

7. Celebrating our Ethnic Heritage (real or invented) is a sacred duty to God whilst yours is only racism.

8. Inventing accomplishments for our people gives us a sense of worth. Your accomplishments will be erased with the help of your own kind.

9. When we shout "Death to the Goyim (non-Jews)" it should be understood as a pure act of kindness and understanding. However, if non-Jews demand Human Rights for themselves it is considered one a hate crimes against the children of Israel.

10. All the above rules apply to us but not to you.

lol. tool boy. where did you find that one? www.kkk.org?

I am still waiting for you to post anything that could be considered a factual, academic source.

Whether or not you are an anti-semite is between you and the damn jews on this thread, but, even us dirty gentiles can tell that you base your opinions in envy or some other baser emotion...

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

Dude that was not supposed to be "factual" more of a satire on how the israeli's treat their neighbours.
Shit,your an idiot.
As ricker once said, "put your legs behind your ears and bounce."

 

[thebabydoc]

Babydoc, u posted what Sharon said on Oct 3 2001 on this thread. I would like to know where u got it from. This has nothing to do with Hounddog. Where the fuck did u find the quote? U pulled it out of your jewish ass?

Moron. I merely corrected a quote which Houndini posted; a quote which had not only been pulled out of context but also one in which a word had been conveniently changed to acerbate the entire phrase. And I sure didn't pull it out of my goyim ass.

Originally posted by Natue Boy
who cares if I spell wrong? this isn't fucking english class is it? and just because you corrected me, I'll continue to spell it "isreal" and "jew". it's more fun that way.

Another gold star for ignorance and proof that goyim can't read. Read my post again, numbnuts. The fact that you can't spell "Israel" or know enough to capitalize "Jews" doesn't bother me one iota. It only proves your ignorance of a topic which you are trying to debate.

and I do stand corrected, you said I was anti-jew.

Once again your ignorance of grammar and English betrays you. You do stand corrected.

here's the thread.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/foru...ghlight=antijew

1. I refered to the "anti-Jew patrol." YOU elected to chime in; I guess you must have known who I was referring to or was it that you know what you are?
2. That was an extreeeemely facetious post on my part. If that's the best you can come up with as an example of my calling you anti-Jew then you might want to keep post-stalking me so you can respond every time I post "Where are all the butt pirates who love manchowder now?"

no, the jist of the thread is that anti-jew and babydoc is wrong about that.

Jesus dude, you are practically illeterate! I read that 10 times and still can't figure out WTF you mean so I could respond to it.

 

[Norman Bates]

Jesus dude, you are practically illeterate!

Since we are talking about illiterate, i don´t think criticising other people´s spelling mistakes makes a good argument.

 

[2Thick]

Since we are talking about illiterate, i don´t think criticising other people´s spelling mistakes makes a good argument.

 

[the nature boy]

Moron. I merely corrected a quote which Houndini posted; a quote which had not only been pulled out of context but also one in which a word had been conveniently changed to acerbate the entire phrase. And I sure didn't pull it out of my goyim ass.


Another gold star for ignorance and proof that goyim can't read. Read my post again, numbnuts. The fact that you can't spell "Israel" or know enough to capitalize "Jews" doesn't bother me one iota. It only proves your ignorance of a topic which you are trying to debate.

[/b] Once again your ignorance of grammar and English betrays you. You do stand corrected.

[/b]
1. I refered to the "anti-Jew patrol." YOU elected to chime in; I guess you must have known who I was referring to or was it that you know what you are?
2. That was an extreeeemely facetious post on my part. If that's the best you can come up with as an example of my calling you anti-Jew then you might want to keep post-stalking me so you can respond every time I post "Where are all the butt pirates who love manchowder now?"

[/b]Jesus dude, you are practically illeterate! I read that 10 times and still can't figure out WTF you mean so I could respond to it. [/B]

don't flatter yourself jackass, I'm not post stalking you. I bet you fancy yourself as some sort of tough guy by the way you type. REAL COOL.

 

[thebabydoc]

Since we are talking about illiterate, i don´t think criticising other people´s spelling mistakes makes a good argument.

Schmuck. Could you be so dim-witted as to not recognize the deliberate nature of my "mistake"? Obviously I've succeeded in displaying the importance of proper grammar and spelling if one wants to get their point across effectively. Thanks for making my point for me.

BTW, if you really think you've ever caught me in a mistake that wasn't a typo and would like to point it out in order to distract attention from your ineffective, impotent, and vapid arguments, try remembering to capitalize your pronouns.



And learn how to spell criticizing

Now go sit in the corner, dunce. Only a goyim...

 

[thebabydoc]

I bet you fancy yourself as some sort of tough guy by the way you type. REAL COOL.

Why, because I use English instead of ebonics?

 

[the nature boy]

Why, because I use English instead of ebonics?

no because you're very disrespectful. are you such an asshole in the real world?

 

[Norman Bates]

Schmuck. Could you be so dim-witted as to not recognize the deliberate nature of my "mistake"? Obviously I've succeeded in displaying the importance of proper grammar and spelling if one wants to get their point across effectively. Thanks for making my point for me.

BTW, if you really think you've ever caught me in a mistake that wasn't a typo and would like to point it out in order to distract attention from your ineffective, impotent, and vapid arguments, try remembering to capitalize your pronouns.



And learn how to spell criticizing

Now go sit in the corner, dunce. Only a goyim...

Damn it, that harsh answer to a little innocent statement almost made crumble and cry

Oh, one more : some people believe they can argument without having to be rude. Some people use rudeness to cover a lack of arguments.

 

[thebabydoc]

"Disrespectful?" Man, you really need to learn the meaning of the word. You can only disrespect something that somehow deserves respect. Thus far nothing that you or the other assclowns have written here on this thread warrants one scintilla of respect from a third-grade Palestinian, let alone me.

And yes, I am an asshole... towards people I have no respect for.

My point remains the same- if you're going to criticize or debate you need some credibility. Poor spelling and grammar show an inability or lack of desire to even spend an extra minute to proof read your work and implies the same of your thought-making processes and research skills.

 

[MkZk]

Hey Babykike, what does goyim mean?

 

[the nature boy]

I went on dictionary.com and here was the definition:

"Used as a disparaging term for one who is not a Jew."

I've heard it used on TV and music, so I suspect it's not that bad.

 

[thebabydoc]

Hey Babykike, what does goyim mean?

Wow, that's original, and definitely not anti-semitic.

Ever hear this one?

It is better to let someone believe you are stupid and ignorant than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Thanks for removing the last bit of doubt that anyone might have had; you seem to relish proving my points for me. Amazing how vehemently you deny your racism yet how easily you can be goaded into displaying it.

BTW: A goyim, as huckleberryhoundiealldaylong noted in his list o' ignorance, (#9), is simply a non-Jew.

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

What's the difference between a pizza and a jew? A pizza doesn't scream when it's in the oven.
By the way,if you say "goyim" that is equally offensive to us non-kikes as us calling you a kikeberg.

 

[MkZk]

kikeberg.

 

[~HOUNDOG~]

I eat two kikebergers for lunch a day. Goes good with a jar of kosher pickles.

 

[BronzedGoddess]

This thread can die now, Stumpy and a few others answered my questions.

 

[Spartacus]

Anti-semitism is often mistaken these days with anti-Israelism. With that being said, it does exist to some extent. But it is not as widespread as the B'nai Brith would want you to believe.

According to the Old Testament, Jews are G-d's chosen people and therefore will go through many trials and tribulations. That is why some people have found it justified to condemn them.

Part of the hatred comes from envy. Jewish doctrine preaches education and productivity.

I am not 100% sure, but according to Jewish belief, there is no afterlife, so like the Zoroastrians (and to a certain extent Puritans, although for a totally different reasons) Jews accumulate wealth in this life, unlike Christians and Muslims (who believe that they will be rewarded for their piety in an afterlife).

interesting

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

interesting

Yeah that was interesting. But you have to wonder, if Jews are God's Chosen People, there has to be something in store for them beyond this earthly life. And I don't buy the "jealousy" and "envy" reasons for their hatred one bit. That's a cheap scapegoat. I doubt Jews are the only hard-working people on earth. Honest.