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Well, answer the question.
Yes, the Nazis sold there body parts in the form of soap/shampoo, used their bones for ingredients in items, used the fillings in there teeth, used their hair, and so on.
If the Israeli's are oppressing the Palestinians, then why is it they allow them to vote? (the only country that does) Why is it they allow them to work in Israel? If they are so oppressive, why then, does Israel not just go in and wipe out the Palestinians? And don't give me no crap about the US is holding them back. They don't really give a shit about what we think, and will do what they feel is best for their survival.
I find the suicide mentality quite nutso in the first place. It kinda limits your ability for repeat action.
Yes, the Nazis sold there body parts in the form of soap/shampoo, used their bones for ingredients in items, used the fillings in there teeth, used their hair, and so on.
If the Israeli's are oppressing the Palestinians, then why is it they allow them to vote? (the only country that does) Why is it they allow them to work in Israel? If they are so oppressive, why then, does Israel not just go in and wipe out the Palestinians? And don't give me no crap about the US is holding them back. They don't really give a shit about what we think, and will do what they feel is best for their survival.
I find the suicide mentality quite nutso in the first place. It kinda limits your ability for repeat action.
clusterfoxtrot
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Well it's evident that we aren't going to get a straight answer rearding their support for the US' actions in Afghanistan. What the US is doing is no different than what Israel is doing.
As far as the ETA (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) goes, they first, have deep ties to Marxism principles (ie Communism) and secondly primarily target political targets. As a general rule of thumb, they do not randomly deploy suicide bombings, they do not intentionally target civilians, and they are not raising a culture and indoctrination process which glorifies the death of civilians, indiferrernt to age or gender.
Their specific attacks have been on political or sovereign targets, not schools, buses, children, etc. I am sure there have been innocent bystanders, but in their eyes, that is the price they have to pay.
You are also talking about a country (Spain) which is 504K sq. kilometers vs. Israel which is 20K sq. kilometers. That additional 25X additional space provides for quite a bit of breathing room.
The ETA also has deep ties to other countries which support terrorist operations including Yemen, Libya, and a few others.
Terrorism is terrorism no matter how you slice it. If you want the problem solved, Spain should hire the Israelis to come in and do the job right!
As far as the ETA (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) goes, they first, have deep ties to Marxism principles (ie Communism) and secondly primarily target political targets. As a general rule of thumb, they do not randomly deploy suicide bombings, they do not intentionally target civilians, and they are not raising a culture and indoctrination process which glorifies the death of civilians, indiferrernt to age or gender.
Their specific attacks have been on political or sovereign targets, not schools, buses, children, etc. I am sure there have been innocent bystanders, but in their eyes, that is the price they have to pay.
You are also talking about a country (Spain) which is 504K sq. kilometers vs. Israel which is 20K sq. kilometers. That additional 25X additional space provides for quite a bit of breathing room.
The ETA also has deep ties to other countries which support terrorist operations including Yemen, Libya, and a few others.
Terrorism is terrorism no matter how you slice it. If you want the problem solved, Spain should hire the Israelis to come in and do the job right!
clusterfoxtrot said:
Hire the Israeli's?
Yeah right. I'd rather hire Donald Duck for our Spec-Ops.
By the way, the last time ETA got rowdy and decided to kill
some cicilians instead of legitimate political targets some
members just vanished........to be found dead later.
ETA got the message from the Govt.. Don't mess with civilians or you'll simply dissapear.
I don't see the arabs giving a hoot wether they kill civilian targets
do you?
Thats because the Israeli Govt. is SHIT, SHIT, SHIT when it
comes to delivering subtle messages.
Instead of using surgical attacks, they use BRUTE force.
Look at the last one. They killed what? 60 people? Just to get just ONE, yes ONE guy...LOL They suck.
Fonz
clusterfoxtrot
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The Arabs don't understand subtle messages. If you are talking about the rocket attack on the top Hamas military leader, the bodycount was 14, I believe not 60. The only reason it was that high was that he chose at the last minute to put himself in the middle of his family, knowing he was a target.
Did the disappearance of the ETA members stop the violence? Or is it just going to return again? I don't claim to know a lot about the Basque separatists, but becasue they are politically motivated and not religiously motivated, they are likely to be far more rational.
The PA movement is beyond fanatical - they are zealots. They brainwash their children, they threaten their own people, the trick them into suicide operations. They don't care. The Basque are seeking their own independent state. The Palestinians are seeking the elimination of another legitimate country.
If Spain offered the Basques their own land, would they take it? Probably. The PA was offered their own sovereign land under Barak, on their own specified terms. Did they take it? No, becasue it would mean an assumed end to the violence. They don't want their own land and rule - they seek to eliminate Israel. Entirely different concept.
The Arabs are dense, dense, dense. If Israel's tactics didn't work, then why did several Hamas members turn themselves over to the IDF recently becasue they feared reprisals on their families? The tactics do work.
Hopefully, the death of the 4 Americans will not be in vain. Now, maybe the US will finally realize the tactics necessary to elminate this specific type of terrorism.
Did the disappearance of the ETA members stop the violence? Or is it just going to return again? I don't claim to know a lot about the Basque separatists, but becasue they are politically motivated and not religiously motivated, they are likely to be far more rational.
The PA movement is beyond fanatical - they are zealots. They brainwash their children, they threaten their own people, the trick them into suicide operations. They don't care. The Basque are seeking their own independent state. The Palestinians are seeking the elimination of another legitimate country.
If Spain offered the Basques their own land, would they take it? Probably. The PA was offered their own sovereign land under Barak, on their own specified terms. Did they take it? No, becasue it would mean an assumed end to the violence. They don't want their own land and rule - they seek to eliminate Israel. Entirely different concept.
The Arabs are dense, dense, dense. If Israel's tactics didn't work, then why did several Hamas members turn themselves over to the IDF recently becasue they feared reprisals on their families? The tactics do work.
Hopefully, the death of the 4 Americans will not be in vain. Now, maybe the US will finally realize the tactics necessary to elminate this specific type of terrorism.
I sure hope Bush pulls his head out of his ass and starts using our military more and send the message, you mess with America you die. Unfortunately, I think all that beer in his day has finally shrunk his nuts. Not to mention it is election time.
I hope the Israelis smack the shit out of Palestine and soon.
I hope the Israelis smack the shit out of Palestine and soon.
Strong_Man20
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clusterfoxtrot said:
NO,
The only reason why America are in Afghanistan is for oil and its strategic purposes. The same reason why there is still US presence in the gulf.
We will still be hearing about Al'qaeda and Bin laden's son, son for the next 50 years if America have the oppurtunity to stay that long.
We have to ship all of these rag heads out of the United States and put them in camps like we did to the japs back in WW2. Protect this country before worrying about offending other countries. What we should do is let Israel whipe out every Arab country over there, Israels army is the fourth largest in the world and 8X stronger then every Arab country put together. You people think Israel needs Americas money? Israel is capable of taking over any of those 3rd world countries at the drop of a hat. Hell, half the reason you morons have jobs is because of the Jews putting your ass to work. You ever notice how the Jews are the most hated people, yet they still manage to clime to the top at your Job? And they dont have affirmative action working in there favor.
clusterfoxtrot
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You don't think the fact that we are in Afghanistan has anything to do with Sep 11? Afghanistan doesn't even rank in the list of the top 30 oil producing countries in the world.
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