Anti e's needed on Prop/Winstrol cycle

[Excidium28]

Im running a 5 week cycle of 125mg prop EOD and 80mg Winny EOD. I was thinking of taking some nolvadex 20mg ED, to help with recovery. Would taking nolva effect me in any bad way, like not gettin the full effect of the anabolics?

How long do prop and winny take to kick in?

 

[Mr.X]

Im running a 5 week cycle of 125mg prop EOD and 80mg Winny EOD. I was thinking of taking some nolvadex 20mg ED, to help with recovery. Would taking nolva effect me in any bad way, like not gettin the full effect of the anabolics?

How long do prop and winny take to kick in?

If you're looking for an effective anti-E, I would go with Arimidex or Femara. With your AS dosages: arimidex - .5mgs ED or Femara 1.25mgs ED.

I wouldn't use nolva unless you have gyno symptoms...keep it for PCT, it will be much more handy.

Mr.X

 

[paridhm]

Im running a 5 week cycle of 125mg prop EOD and 80mg Winny EOD. I was thinking of taking some nolvadex 20mg ED, to help with recovery. Would taking nolva effect me in any bad way, like not gettin the full effect of the anabolics?

How long do prop and winny take to kick in?

This isn't pct related, but do you think you'll receive the same gains by taking the winny eod instead of ed?

 

[Excidium28]

If you're looking for an effective anti-E, I would go with Arimidex or Femara. With your AS dosages: arimidex - .5mgs ED or Femara 1.25mgs ED.

I wouldn't use nolva unless you have gyno symptoms...keep it for PCT, it will be much more handy.

Mr.X

I dont have any gyno symptoms, but wouldnt nolva during cycle keep my estrogen levels down, there for making recovery easier.

Whats the difference between nolva, armidex or femara, doesnt armidex block only 1 out of the 2 estrogens? Is it not good to block ur estrogen unless you have gyno symptoms and its really needed?

This isn't pct related, but do you think you'll receive the same gains by taking the winny eod instead of ed?

I know oral has 8 hour half life not sure about injectable? anybody?

 

[Mr.X]

I dont have any gyno symptoms, but wouldnt nolva during cycle keep my estrogen levels down, there for making recovery easier.

Whats the difference between nolva, armidex or femara, doesnt armidex block only 1 out of the 2 estrogens? Is it not good to block ur estrogen unless you have gyno symptoms and its really needed?

Anastrozole and letrozole are aromatase inhibitors; they block conversion of aromatizable steroids to estrogen. On the other hand, Nolvadex is a mixed estrogen agonist/antagonist. Nolvadex does not reduce estrogen levels - it blocks estrogen from estrogen receptors (think gyno prevention) and, in those tissues where it is an antagonist, causes the receptor to do nothing.

Mr.X

 

[Tux]

Mr.X has that part down. And winny inj. has a half-life of maybe 24hrs max... still best to do it every day. You can get away with EOD, but ED is better. I would take the arimidex at .5mg/eod...you're taking less than 500/week of test and it's test prop at that, that should be plenty. I would also take 10-20mg of nolvadex too, not b/c of estrogen issues, but b/c of cholesterol issues. Nolva blocks estrogen from attaching to receptors in breast tissue, preventing gyno, but in the liver, where cholesterol is processed, it acts just like estrogen, helps keep your lipid profile from being as bad on winny.

 

[Excidium28]

Mr.X has that part down. And winny inj. has a half-life of maybe 24hrs max... still best to do it every day. You can get away with EOD, but ED is better. I would take the arimidex at .5mg/eod...you're taking less than 500/week of test and it's test prop at that, that should be plenty. I would also take 10-20mg of nolvadex too, not b/c of estrogen issues, but b/c of cholesterol issues. Nolva blocks estrogen from attaching to receptors in breast tissue, preventing gyno, but in the liver, where cholesterol is processed, it acts just like estrogen, helps keep your lipid profile from being as bad on winny.

so armidex at .5/eod and 10-20mg nolva ed or eod?

If the soreness gos away a lil bid, Ill start shootin everyday, but right now it sucks even sitting down.

 

[Excidium28]

How long do injectable prop and winstrol take to kick in after the first injection, is it with in 24 hours?

 

[Bruce]

bump that shit, starting prop very soon also curious how quick it will kick in. winny took a week to kick in for me Ex that i can answer.