another rookie ? from joe d

[joe d]

it seems from my 2 cycles so far of short estered gear that 90% of my gains come between 2-4 weaks. so my plans where to run 8wk cycles with 8wks off between. but now i am wondering if it may bring more growth in a shorter amount of time to run 4wk cycles with 4 wks off. or if i need even up to 6 wks off between i could do that.

any one ever done this? will it work?

 

[HAYEZ]

I've done short 6 week prop masteron cycles with good results... I wouldn't set a time limit just play it by ear... Once gains stall run it another week do pct stay off for a bit then hit it again

 

[joe d]

i think im going to end it now. i upped the dose 6 days ago to try to spark another gain and it doesnt seem to be working. id rather make gains 8-10lb at a time in 1 month than 10-12 lb in 2 months. now lets see how fast i can recever . its funny this cycle my balls didnt shrink at all i dont have that weird fealing i had last cycle i think the dermacrine may have prevented it.

 

[nutshairy]

depends what you are using bro

 

[joe d]

this cycle was

test prop 200mg eod
winstrol depot 50mg ed

my next cycle will be either

test prop 200 eod
tren ace dose undecided yet but it will be low

or

sustanton 200 eod
d-bol 40mg ed

i want to run the sust and dbol but i already have the prop and tren so i will probably go with that.

 

[smtimelevi]

blitz cycles! fuck yea

Recovrey is much easier, so you can do cycles more often. Just gotta hit 'em hard and fast

 

[Bigpimpin10]

bro..im looking into shorter esters..what are your rotating injection spots?

 

[HAYEZ]

this cycle was

test prop 200mg eod
winstrol depot 50mg ed

my next cycle will be either

test prop 200 eod
tren ace dose undecided yet but it will be low

or

sustanton 200 eod
d-bol 40mg ed

i want to run the sust and dbol but i already have the prop and tren so i will probably go with that.

if u want short cuick cycles avoid the sust...just do prop and tren...fantastic combo...shoot it ed

play with the tren dose but min would be 50mg ed id start with...my last tren cycle was eod shots from 75-125...this cycle is 100-125 ed and the sides are alot easier

 

[joe d]

i need to work on more inject sites. right now i only have quads and delts. this limits me to eod. i need to read up and get a few more spots. i cant reach to do glutes. im thinking another spot on quads and maybe pecs. that would allow ed injects.


i will not use the sustanton i forgot about the Decanoate that would create a problem. although im scared of sides from tren i guess im going to have to roll the dice and see what happens. hopefully it doesnt screw my sleap up.

 

[HAYEZ]

tren sides are over rated...just shoot it ed and dont eat carbs last meal before bed....should be good to go

 

[Bigpimpin10]

get someone to glute it up haha

 

[702daswoll1]

bro..im looking into shorter esters..what are your rotating injection spots?

Besides my HRT Test all I run is short esters now. I can get away with only rotating both shoulders and glutes thats it.

 

[joe d]

get someone to glute it up haha

i tried. my girl is to squirmish she cant do it. i told her we can make it part of a bondage game. i said i would go buy her some leather shit whips and all some restraints. the end result was no sex that night and still no one to stick me.

 

[Chrisco915]

i need to work on more inject sites. right now i only have quads and delts. this limits me to eod. i need to read up and get a few more spots. i cant reach to do glutes. im thinking another spot on quads and maybe pecs. that would allow ed injects.


i will not use the sustanton i forgot about the Decanoate that would create a problem. although im scared of sides from tren i guess im going to have to roll the dice and see what happens. hopefully it doesnt screw my sleap up.

I know you probably already have this info but it helped me out with EOD spots.
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm

 

[Bigpimpin10]

i can hit my glutes fairly easily... hows the pain? wth the ed injects..i know my glutes get soar..so woulnt that make your shoulder soar not making you working out?

 

[Big_Joe]

I can't see my glutes either.So what I do is clean a large area with alcohol around where my hand goes if I just let it fall on my glute. I then hold the pin so it's going straight and let my hand fall onto the spot. It goes right in and I press the plunger. I don't worry about aspirating in my glute because there are not that many vessels there.

Just practice a little with an empty pin with the point gaurd on. It's easy really. And your hand will naturally hit the correct spot to shoot.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

good advice..big joe.

 

[HAYEZ]

i look in mirror...take my nail and push in hard to make a red line where i want inject..clean with alcohol...then have to put both arms behind back hold needle in place while useing the other hand to inject...usually bust out sweating and trembling by time im half way thru..but thats the only way i can do it...cant twist enough and do with 1 arm

 

[joe d]

i have no pain at all in shoulders or quads after the first inject. that first of the cycle inject gets a little sore for a day. im afraid to inject without aspirating any where. i can get her to aspirate for me she does that for my delts. she just wont pin me or inject the stuff. she said she is afraid of doing something wrong and hurting me some how. i will try the glutes on my next cycle.