Another "first cycle" thread..

[JaimzTF]

Okay I am ready to get flamed. First, to start off. I am a pretty dormant member here. I get on here a few times a month and research for hours at a time. This is one of the few times I have gotten any nerve to make a post. I still have not done any steriods because I have felt undereducated/overwhelmed by all this. Well heres my stats. I am 22 years old. 6'1 188 now.. Looking to break into the 200lb realm. Been training hard since 2005. My diet is pretty good, ecept I need to eat MORE. At first I was considering a (dont laugh) oral only cycle because of my fear of injecting. I did my research and found out its not worth damaging my liver for the minimal gains. I finally have decided to do injections. I want to keep this cycle cheap. Due to some recent financial responsibilities I have accured. So... Cheap, and most important SAFE. I want to bulk up but I want to avoid all that water weight. What do you guys recomend?

 

[layinback]

typical advice for first cycle on ef :

wk 1-4 anadrol or dbol 50 ed

wk 1-12 test e 500-1000 wk

wk 1-12 some other redundant anabolic

i would suggest 250 mg of long acting ester for 10 wks with proper diet training and pct. good luck.

 

[CremasterBlaster]

bf% aside and age, you've made the decision and its tough with all the chat on these threads to ignore the fact that @@s work. Testosterone will probably be the base for all your future cycles though, and a short bulker of 10-12 wks of cypionate or enanthate at 500 mg per week will allow you to determine how your body reacts, and make changes accordingly. Lets say you run a first cycle with more than one compund, and have a weird reaction, which ones are you going to eliminate to prevent the problem? The nice thing about a test only cycle is that it will allow you to lean and bulk........if you really want to add another compound, try kickstarting with dianabol for 3-4 wks at 20-30 mg a day.....you will balloon fast with enough food and water....20-40lbs....but may be able to maximize your gains to about 200-205 off cycle. Your body at 22 is still producing a ton of natural test, so you should be able to lean out fairly well off cycle with the right diet. Make sure to have A-dex or Femera on hand for estrogen sides on cycle, and finish up post cycle with nolvadex/clomid.....Good Luck....make sure that this is something that you are serious about and keep us all posted

 

[xrsist]

good to see you here bro, youv been a member here long enough now. i will let a few other bros make suggestions and then i will chime in later on

 

[markmark]

with no orals.. I will start with 250-300 test and 400 eq. for first cycle .. no bloat on this cycle.. but like I said before on other threads my favorite has always been test & deca cycles.. just my 2C ..good luck and stay SAFE

 

[mattdan]

Dude, why would you expect to get flamed? Only dumbass questions get flamed.

A good - cheap first cycle would be

d.bol 30 to 40 mg ed, split doses up.
250 to 500 mg of test a week.

Do this for 10 to 12 weeks and try and run the test for a week or two longer than the d.bol, but this is not totally necessary. Don't forget your p.ct.

d.bol is pretty cheap and VERY effective. Do the higher dose of test if you can afford it.

Good diet, plenty of protein, work out hard and of course have some anti - e on hand even tho you may be fine without it.

DO NOT get bent all out of shape over which test is best. Buy whatever is cheaper, you won't see a ton of difference. Yes prop is nice, but it's expensive. Cyp or enanth are cheapest USUALLY.

Someone above said a.drol. I disagree for a first cycle, especially since you said you want to avoid bloat. d.bol will also cause some bloat, but not as much.

 

[daveyboy2345]

it is ok to do 1-2 oral only cycles for some quick aas experience dianabol at 20-40 mgs
for 21-28 days work ok for alot of people if they don't big deal dbol,is dirt cheap in bulk sizes of 500-1000 tabs.

have nolvadex at least on hand preferably arimadex or letro too.

3rd cycle test at 250 mgs week for 8 weeks w/ dbol kick start first 3-4 weeks.

 

[xrsist]

Dude, why would you expect to get flamed? Only dumbass questions get flamed.

A good - cheap first cycle would be

d.bol 30 to 40 mg ed, split doses up.
250 to 500 mg of test a week.

Do this for 10 to 12 weeks and try and run the test for a week or two longer than the d.bol, but this is not totally necessary. Don't forget your p.ct.

d.bol is pretty cheap and VERY effective. Do the higher dose of test if you can afford it.

Good diet, plenty of protein, work out hard and of course have some anti - e on hand even tho you may be fine without it.

DO NOT get bent all out of shape over which test is best. Buy whatever is cheaper, you won't see a ton of difference. Yes testosterone propionate is nice, but it's expensive. testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate are cheapest USUALLY.

Someone above said a.Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . I disagree for a first cycle, especially since you said you want to avoid bloat. d.bol will also cause some bloat, but not as much.

10 weeks of dbol for a first cycle.... umm no sorry, he doesnt need a liver transplant straight after his first cycle, and prop has to be shot ED so i dont think that would be best advised for a first cycle.

 

[xrsist]

it is ok to do 1-2 oral only cycles for some quick anabolic androgenic steroids experience dianabol at 20-40 mgs
for 21-28 days work ok for alot of people if they don't big deal Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ,is dirt cheap in bulk sizes of 500-1000 tabs.

have nolvadex at least on hand preferably arimadex or Femera - letrozole - too.

3rd cycle test at 250 mgs week for 8 weeks w/ Dianabol - methandrostenolone - kick start first 3-4 weeks.

why are we giving a first timer advise like this? ^

 

[st8grad]

The injects are a piece of cake after you get going bro. Take your time and aspirate and everything else will take care of itself.

www.spotinjections.com

Okay I am ready to get flamed. First, to start off. I am a pretty dormant member here. I get on here a few times a month and research for hours at a time. This is one of the few times I have gotten any nerve to make a post. I still have not done any steriods because I have felt undereducated/overwhelmed by all this. Well heres my stats. I am 22 years old. 6'1 188 now.. Looking to break into the 200lb realm. Been training hard since 2005. My diet is pretty good, ecept I need to eat MORE. At first I was considering a (dont laugh) oral only cycle because of my fear of injecting. I did my research and found out its not worth damaging my liver for the minimal gains. I finally have decided to do injections. I want to keep this cycle cheap. Due to some recent financial responsibilities I have accured. So... Cheap, and most important SAFE. I want to bulk up but I want to avoid all that water weight. What do you guys recomend?

 

[MichaelScott]

dam str8

 

[TM248]

The injects are a piece of cake after you get going bro. Take your time and aspirate and everything else will take care of itself.

www.spotinjections.com

this is great advice... i was in the same position not too long ago but i researched and i'm doing 250mg TestE/ week for my first cycle ... and trust me i'm glad i did 250 instead of 500... if your diet and training is in check you'll be fine and see plenty of gains...i'm in the end of week 8 and i started at 175 and i'm inbetween 198-200 ... just make sure you are really committed

good luck

 

[mattdan]

10 weeks of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for a first cycle.... umm no sorry, he doesnt need a liver transplant straight after his first cycle, and testosterone propionate has to be shot ED so i dont think that would be best advised for a first cycle.

Bullshit.

10 weeks, the only oral, fairly low dose, NEW LIVER?

Gimme a break.

I've done a 12 week cycle of dbol and liver test came back fine.

Also - where did I say to use prop?

 

[holy ghost]

Yeah mat but still
he dosnt need to do a damn 10 weeek of dbol PERIOD
nobody needs to
set him to the right path
with a 500mg test a week - more than enough for first
and maybe 4 weeks of dbol at 50mg ed and this kid
will fucking blow up

 

[needtogetaas]

Okay I am ready to get flamed. First, to start off. I am a pretty dormant member here. I get on here a few times a month and research for hours at a time. This is one of the few times I have gotten any nerve to make a post. I still have not done any steriods because I have felt undereducated/overwhelmed by all this. Well heres my stats. I am 22 years old. 6'1 188 now.. Looking to break into the 200lb realm. Been training hard since 2005. My diet is pretty good, ecept I need to eat MORE. At first I was considering a (dont laugh) oral only cycle because of my fear of injecting. I did my research and found out its not worth damaging my liver for the minimal gains. I finally have decided to do injections. I want to keep this cycle cheap. Due to some recent financial responsibilities I have accured. So... Cheap, and most important SAFE. I want to bulk up but I want to avoid all that water weight. What do you guys recomend?

first off doing things right is much more important then being cheap.I mean we cant price talk but lets brake it down
week 1-10 500mg test is a good first cycle so you will need 20ml of test-e 250mg per or 10ml of test500 witch hurts like hell so better off going with the 20ml

then your going to want .5mg ed of adex enough for the hole cycle so a 30ml of that if you go ag guys

always want to have letro on hand so another 30ml of that
then you need to do pct so thats going to be a few vials of hcg and if you smart a bottle of dermacrin sustain.
you might run into problems with acne,bp,sleep problems so you will want sups for that you can get them at custom caps for cheap.then your going to need to geat a lot more so there is the cost of that to.....so it ant going to be cheap bro...I think if you ant got the money to do it all right then dont do it at all and use all your money for more food..........

 

[Selene]

great deal of advise already given to you, but good luck with your cycle

 

[xrsist]

Dude, why would you expect to get flamed? Only dumbass questions get flamed.

A good - cheap first cycle would be

d.bol 30 to 40 mg ed, split doses up.
250 to 500 mg of test a week.

Do this for 10 to 12 weeks and try and run the test for a week or two longer than the d.bol, but this is not totally necessary. Don't forget your p.ct.

d.bol is pretty cheap and VERY effective. Do the higher dose of test if you can afford it.

Good diet, plenty of protein, work out hard and of course have some anti - e on hand even tho you may be fine without it.

DO NOT get bent all out of shape over which test is best. Buy whatever is cheaper, you won't see a ton of difference. Yes testosterone propionate is nice, but it's expensive. testosterone cypionate or testosterone enanthate are cheapest USUALLY.

Someone above said a.Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . I disagree for a first cycle, especially since you said you want to avoid bloat. d.bol will also cause some bloat, but not as much.

low dose of dbol? i would think a low dose of dbol is 20-25mg ED. i think i see you recomending prop above here...

 

[JaimzTF]

Wow thank you so much for all the advice guys. I since have ordered just 100 pills of 10mg each of dianabol from my supplier. Not blowing my whole load at first just to make sure they are legit. Anyways. I appreciate all the advice. I think I will do 4 weeks of the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - to kick start a 250mg / week test only cycle. Just playing the waiting game now. My supplier was verififed at the brit drag website so that seems to be ok. lol hope they arent a scam. Anyways thanks alot again for all the advice. I'm not going to go crazy on my first cycle so I'm just going to do 250mg test probably test enanthate. I will let you all know how my progress is going. I probably wont start untill I get back from cabo in the middle of august. More time to do a little more research and get anti estrogens and PCT - post cycle therapy - stuffs. I'm excited...

 

[Chitown1]

Good Luck Bro, Keep us posted. I am in the same situation. Have done tons of research, and will hopefully start a cycle within a few months.

 

[rambleon]

seems to me u've done it right with the research so no flames from me.

i say keep it simple: No d-bol no equi no nothing just 250 - 500 mg of test e ew for 8-10 weeks. Feel out ur bodys responses.

Eat right tho! No less than 4000 cals ED and keep those clean.

IMHO results are 35% training 40% eating and 20% juice.

just my 2c. Hope it'll work out great for u.

 

[rambleon]

oh yes... i forgot but some things almost goes without saying.

U'll need an AI and some plan for PCT. I'd suggest 0.5 mg of a-dex ed for the ai and 50 mg of clomid for 3 weeks for the pct. I doubt u'll need anything more for this cycle. U might look into some sups tho.

good luck bro