Androstenedione & Androstendiol ?

[JohnnyCoho]

New to the board here guys and this is my first post. (actually Second now,..posted this in the Anabolic Forum already) Spent the last week or so looking at all the other posts in every topic, recent ones that is. Holly Shiznit!!,.. what a world of info I'm pumped just to find this place. Thanks!!!

OK, I'm 35 yrs old and been away from the gym for awhile (4 years to be exact) moved to a new town and new gym and just got back into it last Feb. Had to lose a bunch of weight too. Worked out a 5 day a week cycle (went all out) Lost 37 pounds of fat. Gained 2 inches on my arms, 1/2 inch on my calves, inch on my quads, and only 1/4 inch on my chest, back got huge though.
Changing around my routine now to add more mass and going to try out the "HST" cycle I found in the training forum.

Started taking Adro-SDS by "Ultra Lab" a few months ago having 4-Androstene-3b-17d-diol 50mg & 4-Androstene-3b-17d-dione 50mg. After two weeks of a loading phase (I guess) it kicked in big time and everything went through the roof with all my lifting. (including temper at times...stuff makes ya cranky) Thinkin' about trying other alternatives,..but not there yet.

Question is this; I'm Cycling off the Andro right now and really feeling it too. Wanna' keep taking it for the natural high and drive it gives me. Is there anything to take in the off cycle to counteract these feelings and keep the drive going? Stuff says to Cycle off for 1 - 5 weeks; already cycled off once for 1 week. Thinkin' maybe it should be longer now,...should it?

 

[Sughrue]

Try 6-Oxo by Ergopahrm. It will re-stimulate your natural test production and is an anti-estrogen. That 4-ad shit can aromatize and cause gyno.

 

[Sir Foxx]

Can also use any of the Formenstane products on the market like Syntrax's Aromazap, Molecular's Formestat, or Legal Gears Formadrol. Or you could go to one of the research chemical web sites and get nolvadex or clomid which are better in every respect.

 

[JohnnyCoho]

Thanks Sir Foxx & Sughrue,
..feeling a bit better now. Nuts are still a bit sore though, but hot flashes and dizzy spells are over. Another guy at the gym put me on a Formestane product by Ultra Lab called EstroNil. Will let ya know if it works out alright after I've been taking it for awhile. Still has some serious side effects listed on the bottle though. I wonder? What sde effects do nolvadex or clomid have?