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Andriol+Anavar cycle

sman275

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First cycle with focus on adding quality long lasting gains. Don't want to
shut down user, it's his first time. What ratio do you guys suggest when
cycling these two orals. Want to stay away from anything that reduces natural production. Short 6 week or less cycle with minimal PCT.

20 something, 3 years training, first cycle, 210 lbs.
 
take Andriol, walk to window, throw out. just use the var. but i am not a fan of 6 week cycles or cycles w/o even a bit of test.
 
i dont midn the oral cycles.. alot of people have bad things to say.. but
then again anavar..at 60md/ed or even 40-50.. is fine.... ive done it many tiems and it always seems liek the results always get better.. lean n hard..
 
sman275 said:
First cycle with focus on adding quality long lasting gains. Don't want to
shut down user, it's his first time. What ratio do you guys suggest when
cycling these two orals. Want to stay away from anything that reduces natural production. Short 6 week or less cycle with minimal PCT.

20 something, 3 years training, first cycle, 210 lbs.

Everything will reduce natural production to an extent. If it's more size and strength you want without suppression you can try UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR along with extra cals and a bout of overtraining. You'll grow. But if you want the steroid experience, you're on the right track. Keep it low dose and under 6 weeks. (Though andriol is about as effective as some crappy prohormone and var won't put on much size).
 
i dont midn the oral cycles.. alot of people have bad things to say.. but
then again anavar..at 60md/ed or even 40-50.. is fine.... ive done it many tiems and it always seems liek the results always get better.. lean n hard..
 
Obviously from my previous posts, this is not for me. Back in my day, I was a gramabol guy. I'm on HRT now, but I would have changed alot of things if I had known......

This is for another who is clean. I have seen other newbies gain from Andriol and andriol/clen cycles in the past and was thinking that for a first cycle aided by Anavar and creatine, it would probably give good results with minimal sides. (6 weeks) No big bloat, gain between 10-15 lbs, keep most and not have to worry very much about returning to precycled natural levels. This guy can only cycle two times per year. Fear of testing and clearance times are also a factor.

We know that Andriol is very weak. Is it a waste in your opinion?
 
Nelson Montana said:
Everything will reduce natural production to an extent. If it's more size and strength you want without suppression you can try UNLEASHED/BIG BLAST/VIGOR along with extra cals and a bout of overtraining. You'll grow. But if you want the steroid experience, you're on the right track. Keep it low dose and under 6 weeks. (Though andriol is about as effective as some crappy prohormone and var won't put on much size).

Nelson,

Should we just stick to Anavar only @ 30-40 mg/day for first time. Would the Andriol help at all in your opinion? If so, @ what dose?

Thanks for your opinion,

sman275
 
andriol is crap. just inject 250mg of test E every week. That coupled with 60mg var ED will get you good results.
 
sman275 said:
First cycle with focus on adding quality long lasting gains. Don't want to
shut down user, it's his first time. What ratio do you guys suggest when
cycling these two orals. Want to stay away from anything that reduces natural production. Short 6 week or less cycle with minimal PCT.

20 something, 3 years training, first cycle, 210 lbs.

I always recommend a test only cycle as your first cycle. Perhaps test prop would be a good decision. Some people would disagree and say test cyp. I say it's all the same if it's your first...you will grow on test as your first cycle big time.
 
sman275 said:
Nelson,

Should we just stick to Anavar only @ 30-40 mg/day for first time. Would the Andriol help at all in your opinion? If so, @ what dose?

Thanks for your opinion,

sman275
andriol is a worthless drug,they prescibe it to hrt men but believe me it dont do shit.my endo thought it would have great potential for andropuse men but it was left in the dust at doing very little.in otherwords dont waste your time.
 
sman275 said:
Nelson,

Should we just stick to Anavar only @ 30-40 mg/day for first time. Would the Andriol help at all in your opinion? If so, @ what dose?

Thanks for your opinion,

sman275

You should use a little test. Go with 30 mgs of var.

Everyone is saying Andriol is worthless -- yeah, in cost and effectiveness, an injectable is much better, but if it's all you've got, it's better than nothing since you'll need a little T. And that's all you'll get -- a little. But for a first cycle, just to test the waters, you should get some gains. Some BIG BLAST would boost the size promoting possibilities, if you take in enough cals on top of it.
 
Nelson Montana said:
You should use a little test. Go with 30 mgs of var.

Some BIG BLAST would boost the size promoting possibilities, if you take in enough cals on top of it.

Question about big blast. Visited website and noticed options for additional
products available to add into Big blast. Can you give me an overview of what each option does?

If I were to mix 1 lb container with milk, little ice cream, and some fruit in a big mixer and then freeze individual servings for later use, would this have a negative effect on any of the ingredients?

I would love to be able to reach into the freezer for individual frozen concentrate, empty it into blender and just add some milk and blend.
I usually make a mess adding fruit, honey etc.. when making the shakes.

Can you think of anything that would prevent me from making individual frozen concentrated servings?
 
i agre with almost everyone here..anadrol is shit..and anavar..is the shit.. lol..only downside the price difference.. but

Test 250-500mg/weekly
Anavar 30-40mg/ed
 
sman275 said:
Question about big blast. Visited website and noticed options for additional
products available to add into Big blast. Can you give me an overview of what each option does?

If I were to mix 1 lb container with milk, little ice cream, and some fruit in a big mixer and then freeze individual servings for later use, would this have a negative effect on any of the ingredients?

I would love to be able to reach into the freezer for individual frozen concentrate, empty it into blender and just add some milk and blend.
I usually make a mess adding fruit, honey etc.. when making the shakes.

Can you think of anything that would prevent me from making individual frozen concentrated servings?

No need for extras with the BIG BLAST. It's also naturally sweet but you add splenda if you want it super sweet. Freezing is actually a good idea. (Ice cream and fruit? Yum). You don't want to have creatine in a liquid state for too long but frozen should be fine as long as it doesn;t thaw and then you re-freeze it.
 
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