ancillaries for Test E cycle???

[sabbracadabra74]

If I run a Test E cycle (500 mg EW) for 12 weeks along with Anavar (50 mg ED) for the first 6 weeks and Winstrol (50mg ED) for the second 6 weeks, what would be the best options for ancillaries?

I was thinking 5 mg ED finasteride to minimize hair loss from DHT for sure. However, is the usage of Arimidex alone better than the usage of Nolvadex and Proviron together to prevent aromatization and excess estrogen from the Test E?

My two options along with the finasteride are:
1) Nolvadex (20 mg ED) and Proviron (50 mg ED)
OR
2) Arimidex (0.50 mg ED)

I haven't figured out PCT yet. I'm just working on the cycle itself. What do you guys think? Any feedback would be appreciated!

 

[fcfmuaythai]

arimidex with be better than nolva+proviron to keep the bloat off. Keep nolva+prov. for pct.

 

[ebear]

I'd go with Proviron (excellent stuff - I use it year round ) and AIFM. Nolva has been getting VERY mixed reviews these days, so I'd avoid it unless really necessary, i.e. first signs of gyno. Also, don't forget to throw in some Tylers or other liver protectant.

 

[StRoNg_WoN]

I've used cypadex... (Cyp with dex in it...) seemed to work great!

 

[mookie]

I run aromasin 20mg ed works great I also run proviron 50mg ed also but if your worried about your hair I would stay away from proviron and winstrol.

 

[timtim]

you might not need any ai's during for 500mg a week. i just had to start arimidex at .5 eod for 650 mg test e a week. i started in week 5 when i noticed unwanted bloating. wait to use it till you see the need. 500mg is low enough where you might not.

on another note your cholesterol is going to be killed running winstrol and anavar back to back. be careful, you could be looking at 0 hdl after the first 5 weeks alone.

 

[aluv4speed]

I would run AIFM 2 sprays twice a day all the way through and into pct. From my reaserch and what I plan to do I would also use 10 days of hcg at end of cycle and nolva for 4-6 weeks pct........

That is what I am doing for my dbol, test e cycle

I wouldn't worry about provin...

a good AI on cycle and in pct ...hcg to kickstart the nads...and nolva pct ..you should no great.........

 

[sabbracadabra74]

I run aromasin 20mg ed works great I also run proviron 50mg ed also but if your worried about your hair I would stay away from proviron and winstrol.

Wouldn't the finasteride take care of the hair issue?

 

[sabbracadabra74]

you might not need any ai's during for 500mg a week. i just had to start arimidex at .5 eod for 650 mg test e a week. i started in week 5 when i noticed unwanted bloating. wait to use it till you see the need. 500mg is low enough where you might not.

on another note your cholesterol is going to be killed running winstrol and anavar back to back. be careful, you could be looking at 0 hdl after the first 5 weeks alone.

What would you suggest to keep cholesterol levels in check while using the AAS in question?

 

[sabbracadabra74]

arimidex with be better than nolva+proviron to keep the bloat off. Keep nolva+prov. for pct.

So, is there no need to run Arimidex and Nolvadex at the same time?

 

[timtim]

for cholesterol:

policonsanol 20mg a day
no flush niacin 2 to 3g a day
gugglelipids 2 to 3g a day

 

[sabbracadabra74]

for cholesterol:

policonsanol 20mg a day
no flush niacin 2 to 3g a day
gugglelipids 2 to 3g a day

I apologize for my ignorance, but I have not heard of these things (besides the niacin). Can you get them without a prescription at like Walgreen's or something? Is there a brand name for any of them? Thanks!

 

[timtim]

yea, get them any vitamin store.

 

[galaxy]

Wouldn't the finasteride take care of the hair issue?

Yes, it can also lower libido so the use of proviron would be good.

 

[sabbracadabra74]

Yes, it can also lower libido so the use of proviron would be good.

So, would you say running proviron during cycle if I take finasteride is better than running arimidex?

 

[sabbracadabra74]

arimidex with be better than nolva+proviron to keep the bloat off. Keep nolva+prov. for pct.

So, would Arimidex be the only ancillary I would need during cycle? Is there any benefit to taking Arimidex and Proviron together during cycle, or is it just one or the other? Also, is there any added benefit to taking Nolvadex with Arimidex, or should Arimidex just be taken by itself?

 

[galaxy]

Sure itll keep you harder. Run 10mg of nolva to help offset the damage the liquidex does to lipids and youll be all set.

 

[Mac173]

I'd go with Proviron (excellent stuff - I use it year round ) and AIFM. Nolva has been getting VERY mixed reviews these days, so I'd avoid it unless really necessary, i.e. first signs of gyno. Also, don't forget to throw in some Tylers or other liver protectant.

Do you prefer using AIFM over A-dex during your cycle?

 

[mookie]

So, would Arimidex be the only ancillary I would need during cycle? Is there any benefit to taking Arimidex and Proviron together during cycle, or is it just one or the other? Also, is there any added benefit to taking Nolvadex with Arimidex, or should Arimidex just be taken by itself?

Run the adex with the proviron, proviron is a weak anti e but will help with your sex drive since your taking finasteride. Also don't run proviron for pct it can be suppressive. I would save the nolvadex for pct unless you start gyno symptoms.

 

[sabbracadabra74]

Run the adex with the proviron, proviron is a weak anti e but will help with your sex drive since your taking finasteride. Also don't run proviron for pct it can be suppressive. I would save the nolvadex for pct unless you start gyno symptoms.

So, don't run Nolvadex at all during the cycle unless I start seeing sides? So, along with the finasteride, run Arimidex and Proviron together throughout cycle? I was thinking 0.50 mg Arimidex ED or 1.00 mg Every third day and Proviron 50 mg ED. Does this sound okay? Any advice on the dosages? Sorry for so many questions, but this is going to be my first cycle.

 

[mookie]

You can run nolvadex because of the adex and lipids it is up to you and with the adex you can run 0.5 with the proviron 50mg ed.

 

[sabbracadabra74]

You can run nolvadex because of the adex and lipids it is up to you and with the adex you can run 0.5 with the proviron 50mg ed.

So would this combination cover all bases throughout the cycle?

Arimidex = 0.50 mg ED
Proviron = 50.0 mg ED
Nolvadex = 10-20 mg ED

Anything I should add or take away? Are the dosages okay?

The only thing I was worried about with the Nolvadex is that I heard it may reduce the effectiveness of the AAS. However, does its pro with regard to lipid damage associated with Arimidex outweight the con of reduced effectiveness of the AAS?

 

[mookie]

Run the nolva at 10mg ed it won't hinder your gains proviron is good adex sounds good I have never used adex I like aromasin might try aifm next.

 

[sabbracadabra74]

Run the nolva at 10mg ed it won't hinder your gains proviron is good adex sounds good I have never used adex I like aromasin might try aifm next.

Thanks bro! I sent some K your way!

 

[timtim]

how much gear are you running? the one and only time i was running adex and nolva it SEVERELY limited my overall gains and i was very unhappy with the cycle and i was near a gram of test too. it could be overkill taking both and then you wasted the cycle.

 

[melochai]

Proviron at 25 mgs a day and arimidex at .5 mgs a day would probablybe good enough, you can always go up a little if you feel that this isn't working for you.

 

[sabbracadabra74]

how much gear are you running? the one and only time i was running adex and nolva it SEVERELY limited my overall gains and i was very unhappy with the cycle and i was near a gram of test too. it could be overkill taking both and then you wasted the cycle.

It would be 500 mg Test E EW (Weeks 1-12), 50 mg Anavar ED (Weeks 1-5), and 50 mg Winstrol ED (Weeks 6-10). I am getting a lot of contradictory information so I am just trying to find out what would be the best way to go because this is going to be my first cycle.

Also, is it not necessary to run Nolvadex while running both Proviron and Arimidex unless I really need to?

 

[aluv4speed]

bro..this is my frist cycle too of test e and dbol....I am just using AIFM all the way through for the bloat and aromatise inhibitor........

I would just run a small dose of it through out your cycle and if you notice any gyno signs through in the nolva otherwise I would just run nolva pct....hcg to if you can.. I feel it is better to be safe than sorry you know...and if it your first cycle your going to gain alot anyway I would think as loong as you eat a hell of a lot.......


When are you starting? I started today on my test and last week on dbol....