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[RADAR]

hmmm, radar, 800mg eq? isn't that on the high side? does a higher dose of eq make a significant difference in your ultimate results, from, say 400mg week?

I used 400 the first time,2nd time was 600 there was a big difference so 800 should put me in the freak zone!

I will include 500mg test enanth, EQ800, var 30mg

RADAR

 

[Madcow2]

hmmm, radar, 800mg eq? isn't that on the high side? does a higher dose of eq make a significant difference in your ultimate results, from, say 400mg week?

The correlation between gains/results and total mg per week is incredibly strong. Obviously diminishing returns set in at each increment but more than anything else, this is the overriding factor.

 

[RADAR]

The correlation between gains/results and total mg per week is incredibly strong. Obviously diminishing returns set in at each increment but more than anything else, this is the overriding factor.

I will make some insane gains/Diet is already laid out.
I have been training over 32 yrs

RADAR

 

[glennds]

I used 400 the first time,2nd time was 600 there was a big difference so 800 should put me in the freak zone!

I will include 500mg test enanth, EQ800, var 30mg

RADAR

can you elaborate? since eq is not really a mass building AAS, what specific type of difference did you see? increased vascularity? hardness? i am on 400mg EQ for week, in about week 9 now and not positive i am seeing the eq benefits i have read about.

 

[Madcow2]

I will make some insane gains/Diet is already laid out.
I have been training over 32 yrs

RADAR

I should have included, all else held constant - meaning the same individual, diet, training etc...

Obviously, some people will outgain others because they do it all better and require much lower dosages but you can't really compare gains between individuals. Some 160lb 6' guy could add 20 lbs on 200mg a week while a 5'8" 240lber at his genetic limit might be lucky to gain more than a few. Personally, I'm always more impressed by the experienced lifter gaining well off lower dosages of light anabolics. Of course, oftentimes that goes unappreciated on the boards.

 

[Goldprospector]

The correlation between gains/results and total mg per week is incredibly strong. Obviously diminishing returns set in at each increment but more than anything else, this is the overriding factor

I just don't know if I agree with this in every aspect...You may be right to an extent when saying that gains/results have a direct correlation with mg per week..granted from my experience...I got nothing from Dbol @ 15 and 20 mg's but had great results from 40mg and...but I don't that the results would have been "incredibly stronger" at 100 mg's per week (the amount is theoretic) I think Eating is the main issue on a cycle (my opinion)
Next, I do NOT think that diminishing results set in with each increment until AFTER one has past their genetic limit...this may be to what you are referring, but I was just trying to clarify my opinion. I do NOT believe in the "Fried Receptor" theory since they are basically cells that can and do replenish themselves daily...
Anyway bro, not trying to be argumentative...just throwing in another opinion.

BTW Billy, I like var also. I think the strength gains with Var in a 6 week usage, was the most dramatic that I have ever seen!

 

[Madcow2]

OK - let me clarify again.

Results will not be linear (this is diminishing returns), meaning that the gains one makes on dbol at 40mg ED will not be doubled by doubleing the dosage (80mg ED). You will gain more, but not 100% more and each doubling thereafter will lower the additional increment gained. This holds true for any stage of lifter.

The statement is exclusive of diet/training and cannot compare between individuals. A given diet, a given program, and a given individual. Hold all those constant and the effects of the drugs will be determined largely by total weekly mg dosage (Duchaine even said this in the context of looking back at the quest for the perfect combination stacks in the 1970's - not that I think he's a great source to be quoting but I'm not the only person who says this).

Damn, I thought I was being concise and clear but I guess I missed the clear in an effort to be concise.

 

[RADAR]

can you elaborate? since eq is not really a mass building AAS, what specific type of difference did you see? increased vascularity? hardness? i am on 400mg EQ for week, in about week 9 now and not positive i am seeing the eq benefits i have read about.

Every time i ran EQ i started seeing increased hardness/Vascularity in about 6-7 weeks it really started showing around week 10

And like others have said everyone responds differently...hell i can take 5mgs of dbol and can tell extra fullness in my muscles in about 6-8 days.

I'm running a different brand of EQ i hope i won't be dissapointed this time.


RADAR

 

[LoneTree]

You know what. You paid money to abide by the rules, which apparently you haven't bothered to read. I generally like to know what's going on before I lay down my cash.

That said, you have an attitude problem so I'll just inform the board administration that you are here condoning source posting and need to be set straight. You obviously believe that your paid for Platinum Membership means that you can shit on others, ignore the biggest rule on the board, and then cop an attitude when someone tried to help out. I've contributed more to this board than you ever will (I was a member since 2000-2001 long before there was ever a 'platinum' and my 1000+ posts are from helping others not acting like a dickwad).

EDIT: BTW - what the hell is an Elite Member anyway? Isn't everyone an Elite Member. He has no platinum membership (not that it makes any difference as you are about to find out). Right now I'm assuming you are drunk and argumentative. Nevertheless, mods/admin are aware of your posts. You can explain your special privledges to them.

Sorry again Billy that your thread is fucked up. Once by an honest mistake and twice by Mr. Platinum defender of the universe here. No one would blame you if you started another one.

I have only problem with you: who the hell are you telling others to follow rules? Just a suck up and a free loader. Others can PM him with any information.

The only rule this board follows is to make money. They deliberately don't have set rules so they don't have to follow them. Messages are routinely edited and erased for no apparent reason. My message critical of this was heavily censored and thread was closed just because it was critical. May be you don't remember that you live in America.

 

[nukdae]

Hey Dork of the Day,

Any moron with a credit card can become a platinum member.

Quod Erat Demon-fu**ing-strondum ...

(If you don't know what that means ask someone with an education.)

They're telling him not to post sources so he doesn't go to jail and so the sources are protected you fu**ing nitwit.

Translation: think before you open that pie hole of yours next time.

Nukdae