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Anavar Vs Winstral: Give your opinon.

Whats better Anavar or Winstral

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Neither one wil reduce fat.

Diet it reduces fat, unless you have a very low BF I wouldn't bother.
 
12 % Fat , would you say thats low? Or check my profile and tell me if either would burn the fat. :)

Im just simply curious about this two drugs since Ive seen many posts discussing whats better but never end up in a conclusion.
 
xX3mptyWordsXx said:
12 % Fat , would you say thats low? Or check my profile and tell me if either would burn the fat. :)

Im just simply curious about this two drugs since Ive seen many posts discussing whats better but never end up in a conclusion.
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And you never will. Neither drug is bloating so will produce a harder look but as to which one is better I'm sure it'll be a 50/50 in terms of liking one or the other. I prefer Winnee.
 
Ha, I see what you are saying.
Winni seems to be always the preferred drug over Anavar...
How effective is anavar compared to winny?
 
bro i saw your pic

you need to PUT ON SIZE before you try and CUT

winny better than anavar? You kidding?

VAR is pretty much the best steroid out other than primo

winny induces so many fucking complications, sure it makes you look looks great, but it does a number on your tendons and joints.

you can achieve similar results with proviron or Masteron and they both are way safer

Plus on var you 99% keep everything you gain, at least for me its been that way

maybe because I was running the var with winny? :P
 
Yeah, I've read it's best to run them together??? I'm a newbie...I don't have a clue... but my girl wants to do a winnie/anavar run for about 6 weeks....not to cut...but to build some quality muscle. I know the ladies use it for cutting too....but they respond so well with such little dosages.... like 10mg per day, vs 50-70 for men.... I've read NOTHING but goodness about Anavar not only in BB circles...but in the health industry as well...
 
See anavar vs winstral has no end ,
well for you guys , what do you think would be best??

CHECK OUT MY PROFILE PIC

ANAVAR
OR WINSTRAL

I made this tread to help me out choose over those two compounds.
I have no idea which one will be best for me!
So keep it comming with the responses! :)
 
I think FOOD would be best for you dude.....hook up with some beefy dudes for about a YEAR and then get on the WINNE/ANAVAR/ whatever works.... you need to get some SIZE on dude! I mean...you look like...ME! HAHAHAHA
 
NELSON brings up great points as always, Absolutely Winny will give you that look, Like Mav pointed out ever seen a chicks cheeks whose on winny? All shredded. Its sucks you dry, striates lean tissues, the dht train turns you rock hard, its great

but var is a much safer/smarter route If youre going for PERMANENT gains,,,,,And Var is so GREAT for your tendons and musculature structure. Its perfect for all ages

But yes winny will give you a more dramatic look absolutely
 
in my opinion winny is a little better for cutting and that vascular look. anavar is good to but i get alot more strength kicks with anavar and not quite as vascular as when i use winny. but thats just my body and everyones body is different.
 
I agree with ghost on all sides... IMO, give the anavar a run first, hit the gym and your diet hard, and then maybe give the winnie a try on your next cycle. Just remember, there's no need to rush... I'm glad to see you're doing your research 1st. I wish I would have done the same when I first started
 
If what people are saying doesn't convince you, maybe the cost difference between and adequate dosage of the two will change your mind.
I think you will see more dramatic change with the Winny.
 
Stack them! Injectable Winstrol and Anavar.

Winstrol can be rough on sides if you are prone to them. Hair loss and joint pains. Also dosage has some to do with it. Anavar sides are far less common. Both are great.

A dear friend of mine stacked injectable Winstrol with Anavar for 8 weeks and had great success. Diet was proper along with training and rest. Became very lean, hard and vascular.
 
Mac173 said:
Neither one wil reduce fat.

Diet it reduces fat, unless you have a very low BF I wouldn't bother.
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i took 300mg e/w test and 600 mg e/w of primo and it melted the fat right off of me ,unreal and i didnt even train so hard or diet hard biut kept it clean :)
 
Nelson Montana said:
Gotta disagree with the ghost. mg per mg I think winee is much better. Dave Draper used only winnee. Here's a duel pic of him at age 25 and at age 55. Seems to have worked pretty well.


http://www.dieselcrew.com/images/davetheman.jpg
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good thread here. i call bullshit on this mother fucker only using winny, no fucking way that mother fucker got that big using winstrol. no fucking way. if it's true i'm getting on a winny-var diet, lol.

i've used var, it was good. got strong as fuck.
 
jagerbombme said:
good thread here. i call bullshit on this mother fucker only using Winstrol - stanozolol, no fucking way that mother fucker got that big using winstrol. no fucking way. if it's true i'm getting on a Winstrol - stanozolol-Anavar - oxandrolone - diet, lol.

i've used Anavar - oxandrolone - , it was good. got strong as fuck.
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Believe it. Dave was big (for the time) to start out -- 6'1" 220. In that shot he's probably just over 200 pounds. Remember, he had 19" arms but only a 30" waist.

Guys have got to stop thinking that every extrodinary physique is the result of high dosages or multiple compounds. That may be the case with freaky size of todays competitors but not so with everyone. Hell, I've known guys at the gym that nobody heard of that were big and awesome and they were using maybe a shot of sus a week with a couple of dball a day. I placed 5th in the NPC on 200mgs of Decca a week and 20 mgs of dball a day.
 
i've used Anavar - oxandrolone - , it was good. got strong as fuck
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Just curious, but when you guys talk about your experiences from using Var or Winny..etc. Are you talking about Var as a stand alone cycle or stacked with Test?

I want to go with a Var cycle, but so many guys say that most orals aren't that effective unless stacked with Test or another injectable med.

Not sure I am convinced Dave Draper used nothing but Winny..lol. He has a great physique no doubt (especially for his age now), but I find that hard to believe.

I can't speak from experience, but from a health point of view...I would think Var to be a much better choice. Winny does seem like the more popular choice because it is cheaper and does appear to work quite well from what I hear. But there would seem to be a lot more benefits to use Var over Winny.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Believe it. Dave was big (for the time) to start out -- 6'1" 220. In that shot he's probably just over 200 pounds. Remember, he had 19" arms but only a 30" waist.

Guys have got to stop thinking that every extrodinary physique is the result of high dosages or multiple compounds. That may be the case with freaky size of todays competitors but not so with everyone. Hell, I've known guys at the gym that nobody heard of that were big and awesome and they were using maybe a shot of sus a week with a couple of dball a day. I placed 5th in the NPC on 200mgs of Decca a week and 20 mgs of dball a day.
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how was your libido? were on NO test at that time? i've been training about 5 years but i'll say i've trained my body correctly for less than 1 and dieted somewhat correctly for less than 1 also and am noticing the shape of my body changing for the better with being on nothing. i'm 18 percent bf and trying to get down to 10. not concerned at the moment with getting bigger. decided since i'm not on juice to cut lifting down to 3 days per week. chest/back day 1. day 3 arms/shoulders/forearms. day 5 legs. all other days include running 2 miles and deads squats or cleans before bed to get my heart rate ripping for the second time those particular days. i'm eating primarily carb between 100-150 with protien around 250 and fats around 80 with less than 10 being saturated. cals between 2k and 2500. it's working good. once i get my bf down, then i'm gonna cycle some primo and some test and var or winny. maybe some tren in the beginning to get my strength up.
 
- both will KILL your hdl, so neither is cardiovascular healthy

- Anavar - oxandrolone - will accelerate production of healthy collegen and elastin, which is great for ligaments tendons and your skin

-Winstrol - stanozolol will KILL ligaments and tendons and skin. it causes your body to produce poorly crosslinked porous brittle collagen. thus the hi incidence of injury, and the dry wrinkled look of someone who's been on winny for too long

- Anavar - oxandrolone - has studies showing it preferentially burns visceral and abdominal fat compared to other sterids all other things being equal

- anavar causes increased GH release (which may explain ^^ ), not sure but I think winny slows endogenous gh release

- winny is protective and synergistic with nandrolones because it competes for binding at the progesterone receptos

- winny (specially oral route) is synergistic with test because it lowers shbg making more of your test bioavailable





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Winstrol - stanozolol (specially oral route) is synergistic with test because it lowers sex hormone binding globulin making more of your test bioavailable
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I believe both Winstrol and Anavar are pretty effective at lowering the SHBG.
In fact, I remember reading some study regarding Var's effectiveness at this...I'll see if I can find it :)

Of course neither are great for your HDL levels....but Var was actually considered a drug at treating people suffering from high cholesterol at one time! But they found that although it did prove some effect at lowering total cholesterol, it put the HDL/LDL balance in an unfavourable direction. Decreasing the HDL, which in turn meant a higher LDL.

I think Var is generally considered the mildest oral AAS regarding liver toxicity aswell, which I guess is another plus...although it is still toxic none the less.

Also, Winny can be harsh on the hairline if you are prone to MBP...Var is considered one of the safest in this regard again.

Overall, I vote for Var over Winny every time.
 
funkyfresh said:
I believe both Winstrol and Anavar are pretty effective at lowering the sex hormone binding globulin .
In fact, I remember reading some study regarding Anavar - oxandrolone - 's effectiveness at this...I'll see if I can find it :)

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all good info

if var lowers shbg that would explain the increased libido reported by users (mostly female) -
 
jagerbombme said:
how was your libido? were on NO test at that time? QUOTE]

Not bad, maybe a little "softer" than usual. 2 weeks prior I used proviron and that helped and it hardened me up like a motherfucker. I would never do decca now. I also didn't have UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE, :) so PC T was a little slow. I made the mistake of using Nolva, which made it worse.
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TIME OUT BROS!!!!
This has helped me a lot, Id like to know what you guys think if for MY PHYSIQUE (LOOK AT MY PROFILE) this stack will have an effect.

FEEL FREE TO MAKE CHANGES ON STACK.


*(Prior stack was Clen, T3 = tappered with Winny 50mg daily for 6 weeks, I didnt see much different... BD Winny, legit though.)

THIS IS MY FIRST REAL STACK!

1) Test Propionate at 150mg
*Every 2 days for 6 weeks shooting Monday and Thusrday
2) Masteron at 200 mg
*Every two days shooting same days as with Test for 6 weeks
3) Winstral at 50mg every day for 6 weeks OR! Anavar for 6 weeks at 60mg
4) Proviron at 25mg for the whole 6 weeks
5)Unleashed every day during whole 6 weeks

5)Nolvadex at:
1st week= 60mg
2nd week= 40mg
3rd week= 20mg
6)Demacrin Sustain for 4 weeks with Nolvadex
 
i hate winny, has never agreed with me. i do really like furazabol though. furazabol is supposed to have the same effects as winny without the sides such as lowered hdl's and joint pain. all i know is that i got very strong on furazabol and didnt have any of the sides i had with winny. I have always loved anavar but after using furazabol i would have to say it is now my favorite.
 
Yeah.... furazabol is not available to me......
that is why...

i asked about anavar and winny.......

uhh furazabol... too fancy for this fuckers of the source i have... haa
oh well
 
Bro you need to do some bulking cycles before you cut up. You should work on getting more portioned and add muscle everywhere.

GET BIG BRO!
 
xX3mptyWordsXx said:
See anavar vs winstral has no end ,
well for you guys , what do you think would be best??

CHECK OUT MY PROFILE PIC

ANAVAR
OR WINSTRAL

I made this tread to help me out choose over those two compounds.
I have no idea which one will be best for me!
So keep it comming with the responses! :)
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the fact is I did bro(look at your profile pic),and I have to agree with holy ghost.you definitely need to put on MORE MASS before even thinking about cutting up.at this stage if you cut up you're going to lose what little muscle you have,no offense meant.you need to bulk up before thinking about cutting up bro...and go from there.
 
hyp1 said:
the fact is I did bro(look at your profile pic),and I have to agree with holy ghost.you definitely need to put on MORE MASS before even thinking about cutting up.at this stage if you cut up you're going to lose what little muscle you have,no offense meant.you need to bulk up before thinking about cutting up bro...and go from there.
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you dont have to agree
you know you my nigga
 
i would have rather ran 100mg anaver e/d for 5-6 weeks than winstrol at 60mg but the difference in price is what made me choose the winstrol.
 
for some reason, 6 weeks of anavar will shut me down and it will require a pct but everytime i have ran winstrol, i have kept everything including the crazy veins and also, no pct was needed but i will use dermacrine and some hcg for pct just to be safe....

I Have been on winstrol 60mg a day for only 3 days and im already seeing results and the same thing with my buddy thats running it with me.

so i will conclude that your best bet would be some winstrol
 
This may sound like a complete ass, but bro I looked at your profile and the first thing you need to do is take a look at your diet. It amazes me everytime I read a post about this drug and that drug and then you look at the poster and they look like they never even stepped foot in a gym and eat like shit. The quicker you figure out that DIET is the true key the better off you will be. You know every mg of every drug you are taking, can you say the same about your food? DIET IS THE KEY, PERIOD. Sorry if that comes across as an ass but it is the truth.
 
Winstrol...
 
funkyfresh said:
Just curious, but when you guys talk about your experiences from using Var or Winny..etc. Are you talking about Var as a stand alone cycle or stacked with Test?

I want to go with a Var cycle, but so many guys say that most orals aren't that effective unless stacked with Test or another injectable med.

Not sure I am convinced Dave Draper used nothing but Winny..lol. He has a great physique no doubt (especially for his age now), but I find that hard to believe.

I can't speak from experience, but from a health point of view...I would think Var to be a much better choice. Winny does seem like the more popular choice because it is cheaper and does appear to work quite well from what I hear. But there would seem to be a lot more benefits to use Var over Winny.
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Bump.
 
xX3mptyWordsXx said:
So what do you guys think for fat reduction and vascularity and pumps?!

Which one is better?
At what dosage?
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both are good for cutting..Var is more expensive but I like the results much better. Winni screwed me up..I had incredibly bad muscle cramps and it dried me up completely...to the point where I could not produce semen. I couldn't drink enough water and I was taking 50mg a day..my muscles were sore and my joints hurt. I loved Anavar.

If you want a good cutting cycle--do Test-P...200-300mg a week, 400-600 Primobolan a week and Anavar 40-50 mg a day and you will burn fat like crazy and you will see hardened muscles and good styration.

I couldn't see your pics but I have to say I look like a cornerback/sprinter and I like that look...others like the bodybuilder look. Choose what you want to look like and go from there.
 
Anavar does burn fat. it reduces visceral fat. it is the only AAS that has been proven to do so.

With money aside, anavar kicks the shit out of winny.
 
felt stronger on var, but bp went way up
winny made me fell like i had sand or glass chards in my joint--even with taking all the supps that are supposed to help.
 
Get your diet straight, hit the gym hard NATURALLY for some time. Get some supps form the AF store or cheapvitamins to speed the results. Not trying to flame ya bro. But you aint ready yet. If you had been in the gym like you should be, you would have a much different look. Especially at your height. Your diet is not in check, your training probably isnt either. Or at least hasnt been for very long. You'll waste a lot of money and stress on your body for a little bit of results that you will lose very quickly because your diet and training are not on point now and they def wont be after you get "off".

That being said...Since I know you probly wont listen to anyone cuz your mind is set. Go with anavar.

But you wont be happy with your decision in the long run. Good luck.
 
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