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Anavar & N2Guard
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I wouldn't stop the var or n2guard one day a week. They both need to be in your system the entire time.
you need to run BOTH OF THEM everyday... it doesn't make any sense to do otherwise... i would also be running hcgenerate on cycle... here's a good pct
pct
clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com
pct
clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com
What is your dosage and how long are you running it? Take it everyday. Have you ever ran var before? What are the side effects of var and why do you need N2guard?
Are you serious? Are you unaware that oral steroids are a stress to the liver and raise LDL?
40mg a day 20 in the morning and 20 late afternoon
And t4 right before bed
Next week ill be out of the country for 2 days and obviously will be unable to take it with me
You'll need to take N2Guard daily and make sure you add HCGenerate to the mix.
As much as I respect Dylan's knowledge and service, I think that's a horrible PCT.
Besides not being a fan of Clomid, there's nothing there to boost natty T expect the DAA, but that won't do much in a suppressed state. That;s the purpose of UNLEASHED -- to make more of the lessened T bioavailable.
Forma can be suppressive as is Ostarine so they have no place in PCT IMO. And Keto Burn is fine but there;'s nothing in it that will help restore HPTA.
And stims in general can be catabolic and I would recommend NOT using any stims in the PCT stage.
Idobehigh
New member
Correct me if I am wrong but both methyl eea and test infusion boost natty t
Yes, MDAA will, but it needs lutinizing hormone to do so. When you come off of steroids LH is low so there isn't much to work with. I believe DAA is best in-between cycles. Test infusion has one ingredient to boost total T, but I don't think it will be high enough when suppressed. You need to get FREE T as high as possible when total T is down. That's one reason proviron can come in handy at that stage, though it too is slightly suppressive. UNLEASHED works almost as well as Proviron is raising FREE T but is not suppressive.
I will agree that Var is mild as far as side effects but it destroyed my lipids. I know all orals are rough on lipids, especially Winny, but I was surprised at how badly Var wrecked my LDL/HDL. I have decided to never run any more orals. Test only from here on for me.
but bro since ostarine supresses test levels, wouldnt ostarine in pct be bad. a little confused...
also op is this var only cycle?
This is why I recommend n2guard during and after cycle. I'm running 2 orals at this moment (winny, dbol) and I wouldn't dare attempt it without n2guard.
That's a good point, from my experience N2Guard can be used year round in lower dosages.
I used Purus Labs Organ Shield double dosed and TUDCA. My liver values were just slightly elevated but the lipids were out of whack. Who knows if there would have been any difference if I used N2Guard instead. I am most likely done with orals altogether.
Yep, I wouldn't cycle without my N2guard. Health first!
Too many guys are spending $1000s on cycles, but pennies on health. Health first guys!
I use lots of injectables and orals and every time I run bloods after blasts my lipids come back in normal ranges. N2guard is a staple for me damn near year round.
Too many guys are spending $1000s on cycles, but pennies on health. Health first guys!
I never understood this myself.
They only care when they are spending time in the waiting room at the doctors' office because they have liver and heart problems; people don't get it until it's too late.
What stims are you speaking of? I don't see any in his pct setup
mich29
Banned
Methyl EAA and Test Infusion are both test boosters really good ones for pct
clomid is a great pct item some like it and some like novla personal choice on this imo
forma is also a very very solid pct item I'd run it along with either test booster I spoke of above.
far as on cycle support I'd go with either n2guard or tuda from mr supps both are excellent
good luck on your cycle keep us updated on how it goes
clomid is a great pct item some like it and some like novla personal choice on this imo
forma is also a very very solid pct item I'd run it along with either test booster I spoke of above.
far as on cycle support I'd go with either n2guard or tuda from mr supps both are excellent
good luck on your cycle keep us updated on how it goes
^This is also my PCT of choice at the moment. Unleashed is also great, but forged methyl EAA will increase free test and lower SHBG as well. Even throw some Forged MHO poppers in there for an even better PCT
noodles1010
Well-known member
adding in proviron, wouldnt that cause hair loss too because of dht? ive been trying to learn some more about proviron in real time studies not just text book.
pm me and let me know what you know bud. i have it for my next cycle but am on the fence about using it cause of what ive read and heard about people losing hair on it... i like my hair.
This link is just one example of why Clomid is so effective for PCT, backed up with bloodwork. Using clomid in PCT is a no brainer to me
www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post...omid-results-inside-1132773.html#post15334693
That's what the clomid is for. Just because your not a fan of it doesn't mean it's not very effective at restoring HPTA. I don't know much about osta and have never used forma so I can't comment on that. I just use adex since thats what has always worked for me and I don't like to change it if it works. The methyl EAA and test infusion are good additions. HCGenerate would be good as well.
There is bloodwork everywhere from people using osta in pct and it comes out stellar... The suppression from ostarine is minimal when ran as a stand alone over periods of 6-8 weeks and thats without running a test booster along side... S4 is the sarm that causes the most suppression and thats why we advise against using it in pct... Guys like me and rick, that have SEVERAL pcts with osta can attest to these findings as TRIED AND TRUE... I would like to think with the countless hours of study and trial i have put into sarms that i have a good idea on protocol and effect... This is a damn good pct
Redo your PCT a bit:
Week 1-2: HCGenerate - 2 caps AM/1 post workout/1 PM
Clomid 50/50
arimidex 0.25mgs EOD
D-spark 1 tab pre-workout
Week 3: HCGenerate - 2 caps AM
clomid 25 ED
arimidex 0.25mgs E3D
Post cycle /unleashed
week 4:
clomid 25 ED
Shrine1
The Resistance
Cool. I don't want to split it but If it is more effective I'll go that route
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Whether you split your doses or not, it won't make a difference. Once you are at peak levels in your bloodstream, it literally makes zero difference on dose timing
if you want to play it safe, lower the dosage of osta under 20mg. it shouldnt be suppressive at all anything under 20.25 will become slightly suppressive but the serms should offset that .
grab your osta from sarmsearch, if you want the best
osta is extremely effective in pct and down near ground breaking because Ostarine selectivley binds to the androgen receptor in muscle and bone, it continues activation of the androgen receptor while Nolva and Clomid or natural pct products are bringing the natural testosterone production back to normal.
Many people are reports ZERO muscle loss and even GAIN in pct, which is groundbreaking!!
now can osta cause supression?? yes it can
but the thinking is there are ways around that
for
1)osta is reported only to become slighty supressiive at dosages over 20mg per day. so drop the dosage down to 12.5
2)when using Ostarine in conjuction with a SERM like Nolva or Clomid or other natural products, the theory is that they offset any possible slight suppression from the Ostarine.
Hence Nolva/Clomid/natural products will help to get your testosterone levels back to normal, while the Ostarine will still offer the benefits of androgen receptor activity.Truely amazing concept and grould breaking imo.
Read what I said again. Dose timing makes ZERO DIFFERENCE...so No
HCGenerate should be used to kick start your PCT like you would with regular HCG. These days guys are doing an Clomid/HCGenerate/D-spark/N2Guard combo for PCT.
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