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Anavar is overated!!

I think the point has been made here; Var is for GIRLS.

Just look at the two post by brickgirl and Daisy_Girl.
 
landser said:
With all they hype on anavar, one would think this was the steroid of some crazy underground juice god. But this shit is for women! 40mg day and I see little, Im glad the test is just kicking in, cause this shit is weak! What are your feelings on this compound? I will admit that it has little side effects, but who cares when there are little gains.

First off it's not hype. It totally depends on your goals. Not everyone is looking to put on 20 lbs of muscle per cycle. Actually, I really don't know many people that do. Most people exaggerate their gains. Also, some people are more genetically gifted and/or more advanced in their training. Believe me, 5-10 solid pounds of muscle along with a decrease in body fat without any major side effects is very respectable.

In general, I would never say one drug is better than another. Once again, it all depends on your goals. They all have their individually unique benefits. I believe that most people are reffering to the risks versus rewards issue when speaking of Oxandrolone as the primary and only drug in a cycle.

The primary increase of strength through Oxandrolone is through stimulation and formation of phosphocreatine, a compound in the body which can replenish ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate - main form of energy applied in humans). ATP provides the performance increase for explosive short term anaerobic exercise which is also why Creatine has become so popular due to it's abilities to replenish ATP. CP (creatine phosphate) + ADP (adenosine di-phospate) = ATP (andenosine tri-phosphate).

The androgenic stimulation provided with testosterone is far greater but comes with additional risks such as aromatization to Estrogen (gynecomastia, water retention) as well as a considerable ammount of surpression to the HPTA. This is more of a secondary action of Oxandrolone's affectiveness applied to strength and may also provide a theory as to why Oxandrolone users report less androgenic sides effects such as hairloss and acne which are far more common amongst Winstrol users. Another frequently associated side effect with Winstrol is joint pain. The severity of the side effects will ultimately depend on the users genetic perdisposition. The positive effects and benefits of Decca can not be argued. But the possible side effects such as increased levels of Prolactin and water retention can. Prolactin is the primary reason Decca users typically report HPTA surpression and a decrease in libido.

Taking a look at the factors presented above, when considering a cycle based on a single drug, Oxandrolone would make sense due to the mechanisms through which it increases strength, lipid oxidation, does not convert to Estrogen, has no effect on Prolactin and a minimal impact on HPTA surpression.

Jenetic
 
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anavar works, but yes, it is overrated. It still messes up your HPTA, is very expensive, eats your liver, etc. I prefer any injectable over this stuff.
 
I'm using powder var right now, about 35mg a day, first cycle.
It's been 5 weeks and I'm quite disappointed. I've gained perhaps 4lbs. I have not seen real fat loss. Strentgh is up but I dont really care. I've put less than 1/2 inches on my arms. It might sound ok but I would have gained easily half of that training naturally.

And oh balls seem to have shrunk, great...

If I do another cycle, I'll use something more powerfull, at least test.
 
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Sigmund Roid said:
anavar works, but yes, it is overrated. It still messes up your HPTA, is very expensive, eats your liver, etc. I prefer any injectable over this stuff.
All of you with negative feedback on var have obviously never run btg's. :p
 
if you are an advanced male bodybuilder, then var is not the drug for size building purposes, its too mild. And by advanced, I dont mean 16" arms, I mean competitive size. It is good for maintaining mass while dieting, and for strength purposes. And it works awesome for women
 
landser said:
Eh, fuck you. lol Just kidding. Diet is good, but I didn't get much muscle gains like I thought I would, 10lbs, but half is water from my bulking diet.

I think you misunderstood the purpose of var..it is a very mild oral that will produce slow but keepable gains..if u were looking to blow up you definitely picked the wrong gear..however depending on your experience with cycles a solid 5-10 lbs muscle gain from a var only cycle is considered the norm..so i think the var did its job for you..rember to sooner or later you will have to get stronger to get bigger, so it will pay dividends down the road as well!!
 
so youre saying adding 40 pounds and a few reps to your bench press in a matter of a few days has no benefit to us bodubuilders?

I thought lifting heavier weights gets you bigger< at least thats what works for me and most people I know-

You must be relying on water and bloat to get bigger or you feellike you made no gains. i would rather have lean but muscualr and keepable gains, not water based gains which you will lose or look like shit from anyway-

Anavar is dbol without the sides/water/bloat
 
landser said:
With all they hype on anavar, one would think this was the steroid of some crazy underground juice god. But this shit is for women! 40mg day and I see little, Im glad the test is just kicking in, cause this shit is weak! What are your feelings on this compound? I will admit that it has little side effects, but who cares when there are little gains.

Anavar is NOT overated!! its OVER PRICED!!! :mad:
 
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