Anavar - Deca Stack....Who's got the info!!!!!!!!

[PolishHammer1977]

Ladies and Gentleman,

I think the gentlemen may be of more help to me here. I need info on the anavar deca stack. The cycle will include 200 tabs of anavar (oxandrolone) and 200 mgs per week of deca. I know about the effects of both products when they are used alone but not in conjunction with each other. Will the anavar take the watery, bloated, look of deca away. Will the results tend to be more anabolic than androgenic? Or will they balance each other out and produce a complete look, as advertised? Any info is appreciated. Later man.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

I forgot to add the vitals

I am 6'-4", 230 lbs. I had bodyfat measured @ 7%. I have 18 1/2 inch biceps/triceps. 15 inch Forearms. My chest is 52 inches. I am not concerned with my legs since they are naturally big. I never had them measured. How much should I expect to gain with a strict diet and 5 day a week split?

 

[barnes3]

IMHO, I think that the deca should be used at 300mg a week, that is assumming that you are taking 30mg ED of Anavar. Yes it will take the bloat look away, or at least keep it to a min.

barnes3

 

[ZKaudio]

If i were going to use something that would shut me down as hard as deca, I wouldn't bother stacking it with anavar. Use test or something, save the anavar for bridging or at least for a solo cycle where you can keep your hpta up and still reap the benefits. This is virgin advice but is still my personal opinion

 

[genarr3]

"Will the anavar take the watery, bloated, look of deca away" - Not everyone gets severe bloat from Deca, but in my opinion Anavar will not take it away.

The only way to use Anavar and not suppress HTPA is to use it at VERY low doses. Doses we would consider pointless. So it really shouldn't be considered a non suppressing drug.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

thanx man

Thanx man. How about 200 mgs per week as opposed to 300-400. I am a former pro hoops player and my genetics are very good. I know the basic rules of genetics and steroids. I would imagine this applies here. I have also recieved advice that I should take on an average of 30-40 mg's per day of anavar. The type of anavar I will be taking is from ttokkyo labs. What do you think?

 

[Mischief]

Re: I forgot to add the vitals

I am 6'-4", 230 lbs. I had bodyfat measured @ 7%. I have 18 1/2 inch biceps/triceps. 15 inch Forearms. My chest is 52 inches. I am not concerned with my legs since they are naturally big. I never had them measured. How much should I expect to gain with a strict diet and 5 day a week split?

I'm more concerned with the fact that you measure your arms and not your legs. When someone says, "I have naturally big legs, I don't worry about them", it usually means, "I hate training legs, and they are sub-par". At 6'4", 230, 7% with the arm and chest measuments you gave, there is not alot of weight left for big legs. TRAIN YOUR LEGS! HARD!! Big upper bodies, with shorts that have hockey sticks coming out is NOT a good look (as much as you will see it in most gyms. It is in fact quite ridiculous.

In reply, I love Anavar, but always at more than 60mg /day, but have no experience with Deca, so I can't really help you with that.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i have some deca 200mgs and about 120 ten mg tabs of halo, i may try that next cycle, its pretty mild for me though compared to what i am doing now

 

[PolishHammer1977]

legs

I never trained more than once a week with my legs because of the aerobic factors that entail in playing basketball. I can squat 315 for a strict 10 on a 5 down, 5 up cadence. I never did anymore than that. I am not playing ball anymore and I am looking to blast my legs into new growth. Any ideas anyone?

 

[PatsFan34]

Let's get your cycle hashed out, before you start discussing leg routines.

Bump for Mods and Vets to give insite!!!!

 

[H Bomb]

you should try the var with primo instead of deca

 

[barnes3]

you should try the var with primo instead of deca

I think that you will recieve more growth from the deca than the primo.

barnes3

 

[Mischief]

Let's get your cycle hashed out, before you start discussing leg routines.

Bump for Mods and Vets to give insite!!!!

Let's get the cycle straightened out BEFORE the training routine? This what I see SO much of here, and it is VERY VERY sad. Nutrition comes first, training second, then, maybe gear, once everything has been worked on for quite some time without it.

I think this mentality is why I see guys at the gym, and they tell me what they're taking, but I'm thinking to myself, "You take gear?" Training and nutrition are numero uno my friend.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Deca

Who produces the most potent form of Deca? In conern to dosages.
Nutrition is one, training two, and juice three. No brainers and I would appreciate if people would respond with information. Not Bullshi*. Thanks mischief. Everone, please follow suit on that comment. Im looking for help not confusion!

 

[Big BX]

By potent deca what do you mean? The highest milligram concentrations are 300mg/ml from TT and QV and BL makes a 400mg/ml. But Organon is the best deca hands down, except it not readily available. It 100mg/ml. Norma also makes very good deca at 100mg/ml.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

By potency, I mean, the lab/s that are reputable for having as advertised dosages. Some labs, that will remain nameless, underdose. I have not been able to find Organon and as you said it not readily available. What would you recommend as a substitute?

 

[Big BX]

1. Organon
2. Norma deca
3. Quality Vet
4. TToykko

I would like to try BL. If you can find Norma's go with them if not get QV. I have used Quality Vet before and like the results, I used 600mg a week for 10 weeks.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

I am new to the sauce. I used Anavar and clenbuterol, very mildly. 100 Pills of ttokkyo labs oxandrolone and 100 pills of spiropent clenbuterol. you are obviously a veteran with 600 mg per week. 200 mg seems to be the solid advice for my situation. Ttokkyo will be the choice for me on both deca and anavar. Taking in consideration, genetics and the fact that I only want to grow 10-15 pounds. What do you think? 10 weeks is a long time too! I think I would only be able to handle 4-6 weeks.

 

[PatsFan34]

Let's get the cycle straightened out BEFORE the training routine? This what I see SO much of here, and it is VERY VERY sad. Nutrition comes first, training second, then, maybe gear, once everything has been worked on for quite some time without it.

I think this mentality is why I see guys at the gym, and they tell me what they're taking, but I'm thinking to myself, "You take gear?" Training and nutrition are numero uno my friend.

Hey guy, not for nothing, but Polishhammer is asking for help about a cycle here, not a training routine!! I know him very well, and he'll out-train the both of us put together!!! Did you see me write anything about training and nutrition no being important??? No!!! Just because you've had bad experiences with retards not knowing what there doing, doesn't mean I don't!!! If you don't have any suggestions about the cycle, then go flame someone else!!!

 

[Mischief]

I know him very well, and he'll out-train the both of us put together!!! Did you see me write anything about training and nutrition no being important??? No!!! Just because you've had bad experiences with retards not knowing what there doing, doesn't mean I don't!!! If you don't have any suggestions about the cycle, then go flame someone else!!!

Out-train? I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that.

And your comments about get the cycle straightened out before the training, does suggest, and strongly, that you DON"T know what you're doing. I'll flame YOU because you're an idiot. If I see some fucked up situation, I'll go ahead and say something about it as this is a public board open to anyone, not just just a place for guys to crawl up in your biker shorts and tell you what you want to hear.

 

[PatsFan34]

Out-train? I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that.

And your comments about get the cycle straightened out before the training, does suggest, and strongly, that you DON"T know what you're doing. I'll flame YOU because you're an idiot. If I see some fucked up situation, I'll go ahead and say something about it as this is a public board open to anyone, not just just a place for guys to crawl up in your biker shorts and tell you what you want to hear.

Alright, I tried to be nice...but now your pissing me off!!!

A. I was semi-busting balls about getting the "cycle hashed out" before disgussing training routine's. Like I said, I know him very well!!!
B. For you to assume that I don't know what I'm doing cause you think you know everything, is just purely ignorant!!!
C. PolishHammer has big legs for a person whose played basketball, to be honest, he looks like a football player.
D. Like I previously stated, his questions pertain to a Deca/Anavar cycle. Not about training legs!!! He knows how to train!!!
E. Now, go back to the tool shed that you crawled out of, because that's where you belong, with the rest of the tools..TOOL!!!

 

[PolishHammer1977]

thanx

Patsfan,

Thanx man, all I am looking for is help indeed. I appreciate the compliment as well. I am just trying to get up there man, im not there yet! All you veterans out there. I am a sponge and I am waiting to take in any information you can give me. I have been bullshitte* before and I will know the difference. I appreciate the time and energy of all your responses. TO be continued ladies and gentleman!!!

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Gentleman

Gentleman,

I appreciate the goodwill of a friend. I do not appreciate the ridiculous threats put forth on this thread. Please keep it professional and do the best you can to be civil. I am trying to learn about pharmacueticals and their affects on the human body. All other comments are completely irrelovant and I would wish them to go elsewhere. In short, leave me a message if you do know something that can help me (good or bad). If you do not, I hope you read something here that can potentially help you. Thank you.

 

[genarr3]

Re: legs

I never trained more than once a week with my legs because of the aerobic factors that entail in playing basketball. I can squat 315 for a strict 10 on a 5 down, 5 up cadence. I never did anymore than that. I am not playing ball anymore and I am looking to blast my legs into new growth. Any ideas anyone?

Don't sweat the criticism of your leg training. When I was wrestling I found it impossible to train legs too hard due to the lengthy recovery time. So I know where you're coming from.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

genarr3

Thanx Genarr3,

Good to know there are some former athletes out there who understand this situation. Is your career over (wrestling). When you did complete it (if you did) how many days per week did you train legs? I am in that predicamint now. Any help is appreciated.
Later.

 

[PatsFan34]

Hammer, like I said to you earlier. You can usually tell who knows what there talking about!! Genarr3 is a well respected member here. I see your doing well for yourself. Keep up the good work my friend!!!

 

[deify]

simmer down now... I think that he will make some gains as his body will build in the dosage of the half life of the deca... I honestly would recommend the deca say at like 300mgs though and you can decrease it a few weeks after, but you need to get that anabolic boost into your blood stream. do your research...

http://www.anabolicreview.com

 

[genarr3]

Re: genarr3

Thanx Genarr3,

Good to know there are some former athletes out there who understand this situation. Is your career over (wrestling). When you did complete it (if you did) how many days per week did you train legs? I am in that predicamint now. Any help is appreciated.
Later.

"When you did complete" - Years ago. I actually stopped training legs for awhile, and I'm not one afraid of the Squat rack. It just made my legs too sore. You can't move fast when you can barely walk. I had to decide what my priorities were, and at the time it was wrestling.

I squat hard every week now.

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Question for the big guys

I maxed out yesterday on chest for the first time in 4 months. I did 350 for 1.5 on a slow 4 second cadence. Shit hurts today (good soreness). My next workout will be back. I could go today but I might take today off. I always had this one question. If you max out your chest, how can you max out your back? I normally double my work sets for back in order to compensate for the max out on chest. Any idea guys?

 

[PolishHammer1977]

Thanx guys

Thank you for hooking me up with basic fundamental info. I am making a well informed decision now.