Anavar and LongR3-IGF

[TerminatorX]

Hey brothers, how you all going??? Hope you can help me here...

I am starting 50mcg LongR3-IGF ED next week for 4 weeks. From my knowledge on the matter the reason why GH works is that it has an effect on the production of IGF. Thus the effects of GH are basically driven through its effect on IGF formation and the resultant homeostatic response to IGF. So basically taking LongR3-IGF bypasses all of this and renders GH inferior for muscle growth.

So since I am interested in cutting I was going to add 50mg Anavar ED for the last 3weeks ( I know its not a long time but it will have significant effects even over this short period). However, since anavar works specifically by amplifying the amount of growth hormone (GH) released per burst without altering GH secretory burst duration, frequency, or the GH half-life.... am I in effect wasting the drug because it works through GH which then produces IGF??? Would vars effect on GH be cancelled out because I am taking the longR3-IGF????

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Karma for everyone that replies.

Thanks brothers

 

[Briweve]

TerminatorX,

Doesn't Anavar work at the cell level increasing the Micdocrondria(sp) activity? Although I beleive I have heard Anavar increasing HGH, I have never seen a study that I can remember supporting the claim. On a different issue, trying not to HI-Jack your thread.


I have been thinking primarily what to run with IGF and I don't have any answers yet, but this is my opinion. IGF is a natural occuring hormone in the body and so is Test. So assuming that the person that made us knew what he was doing, or even if you beleive in Evolution, we still haven't evolved into producing Anavar in are system. So wouldn't just Test be the best, That combination made me grow a foot in a yr. during puberity. Why use something exotic when you don't have to.

 

[TerminatorX]

Good call Briweve Yeah I guess you have a point with the nature thing, but do not want to do test cos it fucks with my hair BIG TIME... we talking major losses . Thats why the old vars are so appealing

Karma coming your way for the response.

Anybody else want to chime in.....

 

[(Original)KILLERBEE]

Just from personal observation, I have seen HUGE GAINS IN SIZE AND FAT LOSS....
From igf-1 and gh together only, along with at least 1000mgs of test and few other anabolics.
One example my buddy went from 6'5'' & 275 lbs looking like a powerlifter (he did strong-man comp.)
to:
320 lbs in 5 weeks and was looking like an off-season bodybuilder.
I was just fucking amazing!
He had a 10cc vial of igf-1 and did 8-12 iu's of that chinese gh (that was out a year back)
and 1500mg of testoviron

If your worried about hair loss, just collect as many anabolics and possible and go for 1500mg per week with that.
ie 500 eq 500 deca 500 wv
I wouldn't waste my money until you did with the gh and the anabolics - but that is ONLY MY OPINION from my observations and everyone is different and you may respond with your plan.
Just giving some REAL facts to go by, I aren't bullshitting that what I seen and that what he took.
good luck.

 

[TerminatorX]

Cheers killer bee ,

Anyone else with their 2ccs???

 

[TerminatorX]

^^

 

[pajaro loco]

I THINK I,M GOING TO USE THIS STUFF IN MY NEXT CYCLE. I,VE SEEN REAL RESULTS FROM ITS USE ON ONE FRIEND OF MINE. NO TEST, NO ROIDS, ONLY IGF-1 R3. HE SEEMS HEAVIER.