Anavar And Hdl

[georgie24]

Guys whats your protocal for protrcting your HDL while in a-n-avar?

 

[Mavafanculo]

These are the supp's that will help protect you while you are hdl-impaired and will also help you more quickly normalize your lipid numbers once you come off.

Some have had success keeping HDL up and LDL down while on with these, it might be dose dependent on the offending compound. When I went above 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - , nothing prevented my HDL from temporarily disappearing.

But some of the supp's below (especially the garlic, grape seed extract, and fish oil) provide a substitute HDL function while you are impaired - preventing/reducing new plaque formation and flushing ldl. The garlic studies are the oldest and haven't been negatively critiqued in any serious way thus far.


1) policosanol 20mg evening (+hdl, -ldl, blood thinner also)
2) garlic - cardiac formula dose of garlique or garlicin etc (acts as a substitute/super hdl, clearing ldl and reducing new plaque formation - also a blood thinner)
3) inositol hexanicotinate (noflush niacin) - (one of the few substances to raise hdl)
4) red yeast extract - a natural form of lovastatin, the same ingredient found in prescription stain drugs - (- ldl)
5) psyllium seed husk products/ hi fiber diet (-ldl )
6) diet high in unsaturated fats ("good fats" from vegetbles) mostly monostaurated fats which will raise hdl (olive oil, peanut oils, walnuts etc)
7) cardio, 30 minutes 3x weekly - even brisk walk - (increases hdl)
8) obviously a diet low in "bad fats" (saturated fats- meat and diary, and trans fats)
9) Fish Oil supplements or fish (better balanced than omega-3 pills) reduce risk of CV event and plaque formation .
10) Grape Seed Extract (-ldl, maybe +hdl, more important prevent oxidation of ldl and plaque formation) - similar protection as garlic during hdl-impaired periods such as during cycle and proximate post-cycle

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[mookie]

My hdl was at 26 after my bloodwork at the end of doing var for 9 weeks a little low. I ran flax seed, fish oil, sesapure, glucorell r, and cardio and when I got my bloodwork done again it was back to normal.

 

[josenunes]

These are the supp's that will help protect you while you are hdl-impaired and will also help you more quickly normalize your lipid numbers once you come off.

Some have had success keeping HDL up and LDL down while on with these, it might be dose dependent on the offending compound. When I went above 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - , nothing prevented my HDL from temporarily disappearing.

But some of the supp's below (especially the garlic, grape seed extract, and fish oil) provide a substitute HDL function while you are impaired - preventing/reducing new plaque formation and flushing ldl. The garlic studies are the oldest and haven't been negatively critiqued in any serious way thus far.


1) policosanol 20mg evening (+hdl, -ldl, blood thinner also, which is useful in your case as thicker blood and crappy lipid numbers arent a good combo)
2) garlic - cardiac formula dose of garlique or garlicin etc (acts as a substitute/super hdl, clearing ldl and reducing new plaque formation - also a blood thinner)
3) inositol hexanicotinate (noflush niacin) - (one of the few substances to raise hdl)
4) red yeast extract - a natural form of lovastatin, the same ingredient found in prescription stain drugs - (- ldl)
5) psyllium seed husk products/ hi fiber diet (-ldl )
6) diet high in unsaturated fats ("good fats" from vegetbles) mostly monostaurated fats which will raise hdl (olive oil, peanut oils, walnuts etc)
7) cardio, 30 minutes 3x weekly - even brisk walk - (increases hdl)
8) obviously a diet low in "bad fats" (saturated fats- meat and diary, and trans fats)
9) Fish Oil supplements or fish (better balanced than omega-3 pills) reduce risk of CV event and plaque formation .
10) Grape Seed Extract (-ldl, maybe +hdl, more important prevent oxidation of ldl and plaque formation) - similar protection as garlic during hdl-impaired periods such as during cycle and proximate post-cycle

.

fantastic post

 

[galaxy]

Niacin is the best supplement while on cycle for protecting hdl imo. Garlic and flax oil would be 2nd choices.

 

[georgie24]

Niacin is the best supplement while on cycle for protecting hdl imo. Garlic and flax oil would be 2nd choices.

if i beleieve anyone about this kind of shit yo0ur one of them!



thanks

 

[funkyfresh]

Krill Oil, Niacin, Sytrinol (palm fruit extracts) & Plant Sterols are probably some of the best stuff to protect you HDL on cycle.

www.swansonvitamins.com do an excellent Cholesterol Support Formula which contains a bunch of stuff.

 

[Guvna]

These are the supp's that will help protect you while you are hdl-impaired and will also help you more quickly normalize your lipid numbers once you come off.

Some have had success keeping HDL up and LDL down while on with these, it might be dose dependent on the offending compound. When I went above 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - , nothing prevented my HDL from temporarily disappearing.

But some of the supp's below (especially the garlic, grape seed extract, and fish oil) provide a substitute HDL function while you are impaired - preventing/reducing new plaque formation and flushing ldl. The garlic studies are the oldest and haven't been negatively critiqued in any serious way thus far.


1) policosanol 20mg evening (+hdl, -ldl, blood thinner also)
2) garlic - cardiac formula dose of garlique or garlicin etc (acts as a substitute/super hdl, clearing ldl and reducing new plaque formation - also a blood thinner)
3) inositol hexanicotinate (noflush niacin) - (one of the few substances to raise hdl)
4) red yeast extract - a natural form of lovastatin, the same ingredient found in prescription stain drugs - (- ldl)
5) psyllium seed husk products/ hi fiber diet (-ldl )
6) diet high in unsaturated fats ("good fats" from vegetbles) mostly monostaurated fats which will raise hdl (olive oil, peanut oils, walnuts etc)
7) cardio, 30 minutes 3x weekly - even brisk walk - (increases hdl)
8) obviously a diet low in "bad fats" (saturated fats- meat and diary, and trans fats)
9) Fish Oil supplements or fish (better balanced than omega-3 pills) reduce risk of CV event and plaque formation .
10) Grape Seed Extract (-ldl, maybe +hdl, more important prevent oxidation of ldl and plaque formation) - similar protection as garlic during hdl-impaired periods such as during cycle and proximate post-cycle

.

Nicotinic acid is the only form of niacin with proven efficacy to lower LDL and raise HDL. I would stick with that unless it is absolutely not tolerated by the user. Other than that great post.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Nicotinic acid is the only form of niacin with proven efficacy to lower LDL and raise HDL. I would stick with that unless it is absolutely not tolerated by the user. Other than that great post.

to clarify, because there's a few forms and similar sounding:

-niacin (nicotinic acid), flushing, some liver impact, studied effective at +hdl, -ldl

-niacinamide (buffered niacin), reduced or noflush, not effective in dyslipedemia

-time-released niacin, less flush, effective at +hdl, -ldl, BUT LIVER TOXIC over time according to various manuscripts- how liver toxic? probably less than 17 alpha-alkylated, but I'm guessing. anyone have study links?

-inositol hexanicotinate (nonflush niacin), no flushing, was considered as effective at +hdl, -ldl as native niacin without the sides, more recent studies have been mixed or show less benefit than native niacin


can anyone pull the full text of these?->

. Head KA. Inositol hexanicotinate: a safer alternative to
niacin. Altern Med Rev 1996; 1:176-184.
. Crotte ZA, Romo LO. Inositol hexanicotinate and its cholesteropenic
effect. Prensa Med Mex 1974; 39:287-293.

 

[halfcenturian]

Niacin WITH flush 2000mg/ED
Policosanol 20 mg/ED
Fish/Flax/ Primrose/ Olive oil. 3 times a day.
Red rice yeast.
All the shit posted above.
But Niacin is the biggy for raising HDL.

 

[georgie24]

to clarify, because there's a few forms and similar sounding:

-niacin (nicotinic acid), flushing, some liver impact, studied effective at +hdl, -ldl

-niacinamide (buffered niacin), reduced or noflush, not effective in dyslipedemia

-time-released niacin, less flush, effective at +hdl, -ldl, BUT LIVER TOXIC over time according to various manuscripts- how liver toxic? probably less than 17 alpha-alkylated, but I'm guessing. anyone have study links?

-inositol hexanicotinate, no flushing, was considered as effective at +hdl, -ldl as native niacin without the sides, more recent studies have been mixed or show less benefit than native niacin


can anyone pull the full text of these?->

. Head KA. Inositol hexanicotinate: a safer alternative to
niacin. Altern Med Rev 1996; 1:176-184.
. Crotte ZA, Romo LO. Inositol hexanicotinate and its cholesteropenic
effect. Prensa Med Mex 1974; 39:287-293.

great series of posts, your modship was overdue.....btw congrats on it!!

 

[sdever]

will anavar raise my blood pressure my top number has gone from 130 to 170 about the same time i started anavar

 

[Varga]

170? Can you still function bro?
That's very high.......I get headaches at 130-140 but 170?
Yes steroids will increase BP-some more than others

 

[sdever]

will anavar raise my blood pressure my top number has gone from 130 to 170 about the same time i started anavar

 

[Mavafanculo]

great series of posts, your modship was overdue.....btw congrats on it!!

Thanks G - hope it helps

 

[Varga]

will anavar raise my blood pressure my top number has gone from 130 to 170 about the same time i started anavar

Yes, take something to get that down before you blow a blood vesel or something

 

[jagerbombme]

wouldn't think var would raise your bp bro. anxiety will however

 

[Mavafanculo]

will anavar raise my blood pressure my top number has gone from 130 to 170 about the same time i started anavar

var isnt known for raising BP -

whatever the cause you should see a doc because thats into the danger zone

in the meantime,

taurine 2gr 3xdaily,
grape seed extract 300mg 3xdaily
co-q10 100mg 3xdaily
magnesium/potassium (dont recall dosages) - or eat a banana or 2 a day

consider some arginine on an empty stomach (same dossing as found in NO boosters - but take alone) (vasodialator - bigger pipes, less pressure required)

normally i would add drink lots of water, but not sure here since the mechanism might be different (var doesnt increase water retention)

 

[halfcenturian]

These are the supp's that will help protect you while you are hdl-impaired and will also help you more quickly normalize your lipid numbers once you come off.

Some have had success keeping HDL up and LDL down while on with these, it might be dose dependent on the offending compound. When I went above 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - , nothing prevented my HDL from temporarily disappearing.

But some of the supp's below (especially the garlic, grape seed extract, and fish oil) provide a substitute HDL function while you are impaired - preventing/reducing new plaque formation and flushing ldl. The garlic studies are the oldest and haven't been negatively critiqued in any serious way thus far.


1) policosanol 20mg evening (+hdl, -ldl, blood thinner also)
2) garlic - cardiac formula dose of garlique or garlicin etc (acts as a substitute/super hdl, clearing ldl and reducing new plaque formation - also a blood thinner)
3) inositol hexanicotinate (noflush niacin) - (one of the few substances to raise hdl)
4) red yeast extract - a natural form of lovastatin, the same ingredient found in prescription stain drugs - (- ldl)
5) psyllium seed husk products/ hi fiber diet (-ldl )
6) diet high in unsaturated fats ("good fats" from vegetbles) mostly monostaurated fats which will raise hdl (olive oil, peanut oils, walnuts etc)
7) cardio, 30 minutes 3x weekly - even brisk walk - (increases hdl)
8) obviously a diet low in "bad fats" (saturated fats- meat and diary, and trans fats)
9) Fish Oil supplements or fish (better balanced than omega-3 pills) reduce risk of CV event and plaque formation .
10) Grape Seed Extract (-ldl, maybe +hdl, more important prevent oxidation of ldl and plaque formation) - similar protection as garlic during hdl-impaired periods such as during cycle and proximate post-cycle

.

11. NIACIN.

 

[georgie24]

isnt there a couple versions of niacin?

 

[halfcenturian]

isnt there a couple versions of niacin?

YES. You want the regular Niacin that makes you flush. The flushing is all your little blood vessels opening so all the shit we take get absorbed better.
Feels like a sunburn, but the end result is superior, especially for cholesterol.

 

[perryscoon]

Whats the deal with creatine and Anavar?