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jackangel

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...do any of you have serious issues with self-discipline?

Specifically regarding diet (no shit, right)?

I'm starting to get really fucking pissed off at the way I cheat. I need to get this shit locked tight. But the force of habit is stronger than gravity.

Have any of you found a successful way of making your willpower stronger in this regard?
 
Smurfy, my favourite bro, I was hoping you'd show.

But are you looking to cut? It's a lot more fun if one isn't concerned about anything other than size and strength.
 
jackangel said:
Smurfy, my favourite bro, I was hoping you'd show.

But are you looking to cut? It's a lot more fun if one isn't concerned about anything other than size and strength.
my problem is, im not "looking" to do anything. which is why Im lazy and i give in to whatever temptation is thrown my way.


what? someone brought donuts to the office? a dozen? what? ok, Ill have 3.

shit like that.

yeah i need to lose about 20+ lbs. but you didnt hear that from me.
 
jackangel said:
...do any of you have serious issues with self-discipline?

Specifically regarding diet (no shit, right)?

I'm starting to get really fucking pissed off at the way I cheat. I need to get this shit locked tight. But the force of habit is stronger than gravity.

Have any of you found a successful way of making your willpower stronger in this regard?

yep..post a pic of yourself
 
Smurfy said:
omg SHadow can help you! he da man!


(he could help me too, but Im not up for the challenge)


take a peek over at the womens board at some em of the before after pics from the last 3-4 weeks...REALLY inspiring
 
I don't know. I just don't buy shitty food, therefore I won't have the option to eat it. If I'm out and shitty food presents itself I am fine. My vice is when I am home, hungry, and lazy and have nothing better to do but eat. If all I have is good clean food, then I don't really have a choice. I can't eat an entire box of oreos like I'd want. Whoa.....oreos.......
 
Smurfy said:
inspiring yes. but also depressing. Ill pass.


why??



it all starts with wanting to change......if you arent at that point......you would most likely be spinng wheels
 
post a pic? err, umm...give me a couple of weeks? one??

lmao, i'm trying to improve my 'before' pic

i had a few old ones posted here, but that was over a year ago.

i'm slated for a june 1st posting of pics, agreed upon with lestat, if he was serious.

oddly enough, i know one of the reasons for my cheating is optimism. i usually won't do something unless i know i have to. if i don't have to, there's this underlying feeling that i can fuck around now and start soon enough, and shit will be alright.

dangerous though, one could waste an entire life that way.

shadow, you're still cutting?
 
jackangel said:
...do any of you have serious issues with self-discipline?

Specifically regarding diet (no shit, right)?

I'm starting to get really fucking pissed off at the way I cheat. I need to get this shit locked tight. But the force of habit is stronger than gravity.

Have any of you found a successful way of making your willpower stronger in this regard?





Well first of all smoking weed doesn't help (as if that news to you)

Like slickdad said, just don't buy the shit. If I want to cheat I have to get up, go out and actually buy junkfood (or order pizza or something which my broke ass can hardly afford)

One of my strategies is the 5 on 2 off technique :)

5 days of strict high protein diet (I don't starve myself though, I still eat ALOT, but it's all clean) and then the 2 days on the weekend are full of booze and 2-3 cheat meals. It keeps my sanity. Cardio makes up for it during the week and it's worth it.
 
Smurfy said:
my problem is, im not "looking" to do anything. which is why Im lazy and i give in to whatever temptation is thrown my way.


what? someone brought donuts to the office? a dozen? what? ok, Ill have 3.

shit like that.

yeah i need to lose about 20+ lbs. but you didnt hear that from me.

I think you look fine just the way you are. Women always seem to think that they need to be waayy skinnier.

I think that you must be doing something right, because the pics are lookin good. ;)
 
jackangel said:
...do any of you have serious issues with self-discipline?

Specifically regarding diet (no shit, right)?

I'm starting to get really fucking pissed off at the way I cheat. I need to get this shit locked tight. But the force of habit is stronger than gravity.

Have any of you found a successful way of making your willpower stronger in this regard?

take up smoking.
 
Heh, most of you probably already all know this, but I too definately have problems with discipline.

And not just in the area of fitness, but in all aspects of my life.
I procrastinate majorly on my homework. I stay up late at night. Sometimes I have been too lazy to take care of my hygene, And then of course I also dont go to the gym hardly ever, nor do I eat very well (a lot of hamburgers, some tacobell, sugary cereal, you get the idea)

I so wish I knew what the trick was to good discipline. If there was some magic way of snapping myself back on task, I would share it with the world, and we would all be much happier.
 
jackangel said:
i know what you're trying to pull, nigga.

don't even step to my SAT verbal.

nah, I was thinking more along the lines of Ejaculator. Besides, I'm already shredded like part-skim mozzarella.
 
lol, smoking...check.

cocaine...check.

but seriously...chewy, ma nougat, those munchies are killer.

but i cannot give up on the weed. otherwise, i'd have to get a life.

fyxgel, broheiffer, i fear the likelihood that there is no magic trick. ultimately, everything comes down to willpower. but even before that, you've got to care. you've got to feel that your efforts are going to make a difference. you've got to feel that the time is now.

you (and i, and all of us) must have a core of positivity and hope for good things in the future. otherwise, there's not much point. and the shit falls down like a house of cards.

but it's hard, i know. the hardest thing of all, for some.

i appreciate all the suggestions. some i've considered, and some are difficult to implement (for example: i work in a very small IT firm, which has a family vibe to it...and our little office is nearly always stocked with all sorts of delicious shit).

in truth, my primary reason for starting this thread is that it should provide a motivation in and of itself. involving others, talking about it, and perhaps even being accountable on a regular basis, might make the difference.
 
jackangel said:
and perhaps even being accountable on a regular basis, might make the difference.




Sounds like you need a training partner. Keeps you motivated and accountable to some degree. Definately more fun going with someone else.
 
When you are in that situation, there are two ways you can go - either hit the point where you can't stand yourself like that anymore, or you just keep cruising through life as you are now. Sometimes you need to come across that one thing that gets you excited in order to show you that you can't achieve that thing w/o toss all your bad habits Sometimes you don't.

For me, I always went into the gym. I used to mess around w/ the Universal machine at the YMCA when my dad & i used to play racquetball there. I found I could really kick on the little leg press machine & it was cool. And back then you didn't see girls lifting weights. So it was my unique thing & I coudl do it sort of decently. When I went away to college I was always a nervous wreck because of the pressure of being away from home, having a whacked out roommate and having a shitload of homework. So I started swimming laps at the school aquatic center. In the winter when it was too cold to go there, I found the weight room. Been there ever since.

Going to the gym is the one thing I can do anywhere I'm at-- when I travel, move, whatever. I can always locate a couple gym rats who will spot me or just yak about whatever. Since I moved to my new place, in a new town, at a job that hasn't turned out to be quite what they told me when I interviewed, the gym has been my one focal point. I spent 2 years being depressed about several things, getting fat, slouching & sitting in front of the tv alot and managing to screw up my lower back. Its all almost fixed now.

For you, when you experience something that you can't have, do, or achieve because of the way you live now - that is when you will find the 'willpower' to go do what you need to do. And one good thing perpetuates another.
 
Sassy69 said:
When you are in that situation, there are two ways you can go - either hit the point where you can't stand yourself like that anymore, or you just keep cruising through life as you are now. Sometimes you need to come across that one thing that gets you excited in order to show you that you can't achieve that thing w/o toss all your bad habits Sometimes you don't.

For me, I always went into the gym. I used to mess around w/ the Universal machine at the YMCA when my dad & i used to play racquetball there. I found I could really kick on the little leg press machine & it was cool. And back then you didn't see girls lifting weights. So it was my unique thing & I coudl do it sort of decently. When I went away to college I was always a nervous wreck because of the pressure of being away from home, having a whacked out roommate and having a shitload of homework. So I started swimming laps at the school aquatic center. In the winter when it was too cold to go there, I found the weight room. Been there ever since.

Going to the gym is the one thing I can do anywhere I'm at-- when I travel, move, whatever. I can always locate a couple gym rats who will spot me or just yak about whatever. Since I moved to my new place, in a new town, at a job that hasn't turned out to be quite what they told me when I interviewed, the gym has been my one focal point. I spent 2 years being depressed about several things, getting fat, slouching & sitting in front of the tv alot and managing to screw up my lower back. Its all almost fixed now.

For you, when you experience something that you can't have, do, or achieve because of the way you live now - that is when you will find the 'willpower' to go do what you need to do. And one good thing perpetuates another.

I appreciate your sharing some of your history. I agree with your main point wholeheartedly. Perhaps I will come across that something (or one of them) in the near future. Hopefully I can make some strides myself in finding it. I also have a fondness for the gym experience. But, it is my habit to watch people, and it proves to often be an interesting place to do that. :)

You are spot on, and thank you so much for this contribution.
 
well, I'm not saying you need to find Jesus in the gym or anything -- it just happens to have been a constant in my life that I enjoy. But you get the idea. :)
 
I've said this a million times. or 3, but that's not important now. EVERYBODY is fat. EveryFUCKINGbody! Everybody's out of shape. Go look out your window right now. The first ten people you see walk by will be OUT OF FUCKING SHAPE! MAYBE ONE is'nt fat, but they're probably sick with some kind of disease!

My point is if you LET it happen, you'll be like that too. You WILL be out of shape. DO IT bro. Do the right thing. You know when you eat and train right, things get accomplished, so do it. You have a strong mind, use it. PERIOD.

Now to my experience... I normally get full very fast, so it's not a problem for me, so I eat healthy foods every 3 hours and I'm too full to have the junk. Just keep eating very frequently and you'll stay full. More meals a day and do waht the slickster said about not buying the junk. Keep only healthy foods around and eat often. I swear, when my alarm goes off every three hours, I tell myself "Shit, I gotta eat again?" damn!!! and I eat another Chicken leg or two. Good stuff when you're doing it right and get compliments from married women bringing their kids to daycare. wait, wtf?

My point is, if you eat that cake and chips, your neighbor does'nt get fat, YOU DO! It's the devil, don't do it. Don't buy it, don't eat it.

I work too damn hard in the gym, put too much effort, to waste it by eating junk.

*The preceding message was sent to you by gonelifting as of 10/30/2004.
 
jackangel said:
post a pic? err, umm...give me a couple of weeks? one??

lmao, i'm trying to improve my 'before' pic

i had a few old ones posted here, but that was over a year ago.

i'm slated for a june 1st posting of pics, agreed upon with lestat, if he was serious.

oddly enough, i know one of the reasons for my cheating is optimism. i usually won't do something unless i know i have to. if i don't have to, there's this underlying feeling that i can fuck around now and start soon enough, and shit will be alright.

dangerous though, one could waste an entire life that way.

shadow, you're still cutting?



yeah.....well sort of...I only hit the gym 3x last week....worked thru lunch two days so everything was a bit off last week...Im 211 and just below 9% at the moment...
 
The Shadow said:
yeah.....well sort of...I only hit the gym 3x last week....worked thru lunch two days so everything was a bit off last week...Im 211 and just below 9% at the moment...
Christ, you fat pig.

:rolleyes:
 
yeah...see my post above - I did as well.....worked thru lunch on two days and overate those night for dinner....

but

those things happen
 
jackangel said:
...do any of you have serious issues with self-discipline?

Specifically regarding diet (no shit, right)?

I'm starting to get really fucking pissed off at the way I cheat. I need to get this shit locked tight. But the force of habit is stronger than gravity.

Have any of you found a successful way of making your willpower stronger in this regard?







Honestly man, not really. But that mostly because it was such a bitch to lose to begin with that I dont want to letr all that work and effort go to waste.

What heps me though is avoiding temptation and distraction. In college I would spend endless hours studying in a diner since it kept me out of my dorm room and away from temptations of freinds/ comfort etc.

With food I just dont buy it, and that way Im fine. It also helps that I generally have groceries delivered so Im not tempted by anything in the grocery aisle.

But the key I think really is visualization, coupled with written plans and goals that I frequently monitor and update. Incorportae short and intermediate range goals for a sense of accomplishment. I mark every workout, and try to honestly grade what I consider to be my effort. Thats for me, I only compete against myself.
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