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Am I screwed?

you are right, don't listen to anything on a forum at face value.. however the posters on here are very experienced on this stuff and the mods have special skills or they wouldn't be mods in the first place. for example they made me a mod based on my PCT knowledge and my bloodwork experience which fits your exact issue here. so you would be wise to listen very close to what i tell you


I agree with this. I don't think its wise advice to give an 19 year old that doctors are stupid, to just mess with your HTPA on your own, and to just listen to strangers on the internet :). You don't know who is knowledgable and who isn't.

My advice is not to fire your doctor. It's smart to be honest with him and tell him that you screwed up. Your goal now is to recover, and like the others have said, you will.

Your doc will be useful if for nothing else than to help you monitor your progress back to recovery. See what he recommends. If he's really an idiot, you don't have to take his advice. Another thing he is useful for is to refer you to an endocrinologist, although you are not in need of that right now.


A test booster like HcGenerate would be good. Keep lifting, wait 3 months or so, and get a test done. If your test isn't significantly higher, ask your doc to send you to a specialist.
 
You're natty test was only low because you we're suppressed. You probably got under dosed gear. Web you get it out of your system take a natty test booster and estrogen control and you'll be fine
 
Your doc will be useful if for nothing else than to help you monitor your progress back to recovery. See what he recommends. If he's really an idiot, you don't have to take his advice. Another thing he is useful for is to refer you to an endocrinologist, although you are not in need of that right now.

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well his doc has already proven to be an idiot considering he told him that injecting test wouldn't boost his T levels.

this is not someone to take advice from.

the OP has no way to know what is right or wrong because he has no clue what he is doing.. just another 19 year old who listened to his buddy at the gym. kids haven't even busted their first nut yet but they feel they are smart and mature enough to inject hormones that should be left for adults
 
Are you kidding me? So I'm supposed to take whatever you guys tell me at face value without questioning it? Talk about displaying ignorance... you should know better than that. I never said anyone here was wrong or eluded that I'm adamant like you made me out to be. I'm simply asking how they came to certain conclusions. & a doctor is the most respected occupation in the world.. I'm not saying they're right either, I'm telling you their opinion (book smarts) and asking for yours (street smarts) so I can formulate a decision that I feel is best.

I truly do appreciate your guys's time & help, all of the info you've provided me was very useful. I just wanted some further explanations on a few things is all. You validated the point he made about a low dose synthetic testosterone screwing up my natural levels and I will most likely buy SERMs now. I even admitted I was wrong in the OP and that your advocacy for youths to stay away from steroids stands 100% true.

"The error of youth is to believe that knowledge is a substitute for experience, while the error of age is to believe experience is a substitute for intelligence." - Ernest Hemingway.

^ I think that's a good summary of this situation. Just remember that next time you point your finger at someone and tell them that they're narrow minded, don't forget that there are 3 fingers pointing right back at you.

No. I am not kidding. And yes, I do know better. That is why I DIDN'T say don't question the information you get here. In fact I suggest questioning more things than you have been (e.g. do I really need juice now?, are my friends helping or hurting me? How can bio-identical testosterone NOT show up on a blood screen?, etc.). I instead was saying to show some respect and gratitude when doing the questioning.

Also, I never said you were narrow minded. That implies you wouldn't seek help... which you are. I said you were ignorant and hard-headed. My reasoning is that you don't know what to do, and also act like no one here does either.

Stevesmi is a main go-to guy for PCT here, but you want to talk to him like he just woke up one day with thousands of posts and decided to start making shit up about what to do when your testicles are no longer functioning properly.

Last but certainly not least, I am a graduate of trade school and a university, I am a husband and father, a business owner, an employer, a veteran of a foreign war, recipient of a purple heart and silver star, and walk with a permanent limp and nerve pain from 3 AK-47 rounds. I can assure you during all this life experience that I have had more than 3 fingers pointing at me at once, and most of them have been middle fingers.

Your doctor is right that you will be fine in a while, and you don't HAVE to do anything. But like others have said, a natural testosterone booster would help speed things along.

You will be fine. Give it a few years and try again. Good luck.
 
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