Am I going overboard?

[STRIPCLUB]

After watching dialtones video interview post, I started to have second thoughts about what I've been planning for my next cycle. I just wanted to know if my fears are justified in your opinions. In the past, I've always done smaller, shorter cycles with less gear. This cycle came out of A.L. Ray's 1st book C.M.E. (for the most part:couple of minor changes here and there.)

DBOL 30mg/d weeks 1-3, 25mg/d week 4, 20mg/d week 5, 15mg/d week 6
T. PROPIONATE 100mg/eod weeks 3-8
WINSTROL 50mg/eod weeks 5-10
DECA 500mg/wk weeks 5-8
EQ 500mg/wk weeks 9-12
HCG
CLOMID
NOVALDEX 20mg/d weeks 1-8

After this, I would be off for a year. I wanted to use the prop and winny for site injections to bring up legs to monster size. Also, why is it recommended that the dbol and prop be used together seeing as they are both fast acting testosterones?

Any help from you guys is much appreciated.

 

[Apexx]

way too messy, keep it simple.

 

[Outtlaw]

Its not overboard to me. Im gonna be using way more stuff than that. But you've got too many compounds that dont go together and the way you have the cycle set up just doesnt make sense to me.

 

[INNOCENT]

i just try to keep mine solid and simple..

 

[PURE EXTRACT]

Is this your first cycle or what?

 

[slat1]

why deca for 3 weeks? for one...

 

[STRIPCLUB]

why deca for 3 weeks? for one...

The deca is actually for 4 weeks and the reason why I am switching to eq at the end is due to the fact that I read an article which stated that this would have a more profound effect than just running the deca all the way through.(something about the effects the two compounds have on receptors)

 

[Outtlaw]

My advice to you is to stop going by articles and books most likely outdated and/or written by people who dont have a clue, and start searching the threads here in this forum. You'll get much better information.

 

[STRIPCLUB]

Is this your first cycle or what?

Actually, this is far from my first cycle. (would be nice if we could go back in time though!) As I stated in my post, I usually do smaller cycles which run for a shorter duration using less chemistry. I just came off 200 DBol spread throughout 5 weeks and 500mg deca for the 1st 3 weeks followed by 600mg EQ for the 2nd 3 weeks(6 weeks all together) Went from 235lbs to 260lbs. I have the pics.

 

[Indy]

I wanted to use the prop and winny for site injections to bring up legs to monster size.
Any help from you guys is much appreciated.

Site injections are a fallacy, they are really nothing more than another place to stick yourself to keep the pinz moving around. If you check you will find several threads on this board discussing this. Injecting into a particular muscle does not directly affect that muscle anymore, other than maybe swelling it up and huriting due to irritation.

 

[AMGETR]

The deca and eq is absolutely useless at those weeks. EQ kicks in around week 8!

 

[STRIPCLUB]

The deca and eq is absolutely useless at those weeks. EQ kicks in around week 8!

Are you saying that if I was on EQ for 8 weeks, the EQ would not even kick in untill week 8?

 

[LVTitan]

DBOL 30mg/d weeks 1-3, 25mg/d week 4, 20mg/d week 5, 15mg/d week 6
T. PROPIONATE 100mg/eod weeks 3-8
WINSTROL 50mg/eod weeks 5-10
DECA 500mg/wk weeks 5-8
EQ 500mg/wk weeks 9-12
HCG
CLOMID
NOVALDEX 20mg/d weeks 1-8


yes the dbol and prop are fast acting, but they do compliment each other. dbol is a class II steroid so it mixes well w/deca and test. if you are going to run a nandrolone (deca) for only 4 weeks i would run a faster ester like NPP because 4 weeks of deca is a waste, it takes that long for the decanoate ester to work properly. drop the winny, too many ingredients. if you are going to make a 10 week cycle out of this, run the test/deca together for the whole ten weeks, with your dbol the way u wanted. just my opinion though
edit: sorry i just noticed the eq... drop the eq and continue the deca instead..
titan.

 

[AMGETR]

Are you saying that if I was on EQ for 8 weeks, the EQ would not even kick in untill week 8?

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

 

[sinister]

one way to do it is: prop 100mg weeks 1-14
Deca or EQ 400mg weeks 1-16
d-bol 50mg weeks 1-4
anadrol 50mg/ED week 1
Anadrol 100mg/ED week 2
Anadrol 150mg/ED week 3
Anadrol 150mg/ED week 4
Winny 150mg/ED weeks 10-16

Another one would be if you can get Enanthate:
Enanthate 800mg weeks 1-16
Deca or EQ 800mg weeks 1-14
Test Prop 100mg/ED weeks 1-4 and then on weeks 17and18
D-bol 50mg/ED weeks 1-4
Anadrol follow same as above
Winny weeks 100mg/ED weeks 12-18

 

[STRIPCLUB]

DBOL 30mg/d weeks 1-3, 25mg/d week 4, 20mg/d week 5, 15mg/d week 6
T. PROPIONATE 100mg/eod weeks 3-8
WINSTROL 50mg/eod weeks 5-10
DECA 500mg/wk weeks 5-8
EQ 500mg/wk weeks 9-12
HCG
CLOMID
NOVALDEX 20mg/d weeks 1-8


yes the dbol and prop are fast acting, but they do compliment each other. dbol is a class II steroid so it mixes well w/deca and test. if you are going to run a nandrolone (deca) for only 4 weeks i would run a faster ester like NPP because 4 weeks of deca is a waste, it takes that long for the decanoate ester to work properly. drop the winny, too many ingredients. if you are going to make a 10 week cycle out of this, run the test/deca together for the whole ten weeks, with your dbol the way u wanted. just my opinion though
edit: sorry i just noticed the eq... drop the eq and continue the deca instead..
titan.

Thanx lvtitan, that was the response I was looking for. Does this mean that I'll need more PROP.? Can I do the DBOL for the first 6 weeks and kick in the PROP at week 5 to be run untill week 10?

 

[BionicBC]

one way to do it is: prop 100mg weeks 1-14
Deca or EQ 400mg weeks 1-16
d-bol 50mg weeks 1-4
anadrol 50mg/ED week 1
Anadrol 100mg/ED week 2
Anadrol 150mg/ED week 3
Anadrol 150mg/ED week 4
Winny 150mg/ED weeks 10-16

Another one would be if you can get Enanthate:
Enanthate 800mg weeks 1-16
Deca or EQ 800mg weeks 1-14
Test Prop 100mg/ED weeks 1-4 and then on weeks 17and18
D-bol 50mg/ED weeks 1-4
Anadrol follow same as above
Winny weeks 100mg/ED weeks 12-18

winny for 7 weeks @ 150mg every day? With drol, And dbol? poor, poor liver. Thats the stupidest cycle ive seen in my whole life.
Bionic

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

After watching dialtones video interview post, I started to have second thoughts about what I've been planning for my next cycle. I just wanted to know if my fears are justified in your opinions. In the past, I've always done smaller, shorter cycles with less gear. This cycle came out of A.L. Ray's 1st book C.M.E. (for the most part:couple of minor changes here and there.)

DBOL 30mg/d weeks 1-3, 25mg/d week 4, 20mg/d week 5, 15mg/d week 6
T. PROPIONATE 100mg/eod weeks 3-8
WINSTROL 50mg/eod weeks 5-10
DECA 500mg/wk weeks 5-8
EQ 500mg/wk weeks 9-12
HCG
CLOMID
NOVALDEX 20mg/d weeks 1-8

After this, I would be off for a year. I wanted to use the prop and winny for site injections to bring up legs to monster size. Also, why is it recommended that the dbol and prop be used together seeing as they are both fast acting testosterones?

Any help from you guys is much appreciated.

Five compounds...that's getting up there

 

[Outtlaw]

Thanx lvtitan, that was the response I was looking for. Does this mean that I'll need more PROP.? Can I do the DBOL for the first 6 weeks and kick in the PROP at week 5 to be run untill week 10?

Get rid of the prop! 350mg/wk of prop is not gonna do shit for mass. The only thing thats gonna bring up your legs is TRAINING. If you want to run test for 6-8wks then run something longer acting, or if you have to, do the prop at 100mg/day min. Run the dbol for 5wks at 25-35mg throughout. No need to do that pyramid shit. And listen to what the others said on how to run the deca and eq.

 

[sinister]

winny for 7 weeks @ 150mg every day? With drol, And dbol? poor, poor liver. Thats the stupidest cycle ive seen in my whole life.
Bionic

Even though the above response was rough but somewhat correct. I made a mistake is should have said d-bol or Anadrol one or the other. OR take Anadrol for 4 weeks then d-bol for 4 weeks. AS FAR AS THE WINNY if you are experienced with it your body can tolerate alot more than that you can of coure do EOD. The above was my mistake BUT NOT the winny. Lets see yours

 

[instant.muscle]

do this:
deca 8 weeks
test 8 weeks
dbol 5 weeks
win last 5 weeks.

 

[BionicBC]

do this:
deca 8 weeks
test 8 weeks
dbol 5 weeks
win last 5 weeks.

Dude, the more i read your posts the more i see you dont know what the hell youre talking about. Quit giving advice when youve only done like 1 cycle yourself!!! Not to flame, but look at the advice you gave:
1. Deca-8 weeks
This is not long enough for deca. It is a long ester, and you need to run at least 10 weeks, 12 preferrably.
2. Test 8 weeks
What kind of test? Prop? Enanthate? Always run test out longer than deca. Say your using enanthate, run it for one week longer, so esters from test and deca clear at the same time for proper PCT.
3. Dbol & Winny- last 5 weeks
Both of these are 17-aa compounds and running effective doses of each at the same time places hella stress on the liver-dont ever do this. Winny for the last 5 weeks would be okay, but run it for 2 weeks longer than test enanthate for same reason as running enanthate 1 week after deca-so all compounds clear system at the same time for proper PCT.
The advice you give could ruin someones life bro, so when you dont have half a clue what youre discussing, DONT GIVE ADVICE...
Bionic

 

[JAYMAN014]

Is it at all possible that that cycle does make sence, In keeping the gains made from other compounds, Taking Deca for say 4 weeks, Yes you don't see a 10pd gain in muscle mass although it may just harden your gains from the other compounds working together. Its not only about taking a gear getting huge while your on that particular part of cycle although what the entire cycle yeilds 2mnths after,

 

[greekhookup]

CYCLE:
dbol 30mg/day 1-4 weeks
deca 600 mg/wk 1-10 weeks
test E 500mg/wk 1-8 weeks

PCT:
clomid 100mg/wk 11 & 12 weeks
clomid 50mg/wk 13 week
nolva 20mg/day
HCG 3000 iu/wk 11 &12 weeks

FYI.....dont take dbol and wintrol together and dont take deca and EQ together....deca and EQ are roughly the same compound and dbol and wintrol act oppositly so they will basically cancel each other out and they are 17aa which is a chemistry language, in english it means your liver will pack its bags say that it has had enough of this shit and it will just leave (in my opinion)