Alternatives to prison...

[the_alcatraz]

What happens if somene is wrongfully accussed?

 

[-SD-]

What happens if somene is wrongfully accussed?

what if what if

that happens anyhow, no system is perfect.

 

[the_alcatraz]

what if what if

that happens anyhow, no system is perfect.

well.....if they are wrongfully accused and imprisoned, then they can fight back through court...if you kill em, then what good will that do them.

Also, you are proposing to kill someone who kills or give same punishment. Isnt that the very system that you guys oppose in Saudia Arabia?

What happens if someone steals? you still back from him? lol

or if someone rapes? you rape him back? lol

 

[-SD-]

well.....if they are wrongfully accused and imprisoned, then they can fight back through court...if you kill em, then what good will that do them.

Also, you are proposing to kill someone who kills or give same punishment. Isnt that the very system that you guys oppose in Saudia Arabia?

What happens if someone steals? you still back from him? lol

or if someone rapes? you rape him back? lol

I wasnt endorsing any particular punishment I was commenting on our system being too lenient on criminals.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I wasnt endorsing any particular punishment I was commenting on our system being too lenient on criminals.

Yes. I agree with this.

what's ur take on prisoners coming out of the big house worse that they entered it?

What's ur take on innocent people going into jail and coming out bad mother fuckers because of what they had to do to survive?

someone needs to really look into the penal system. Frankly, it's shit. Kill or be killed in there.

 

[-SD-]

Yes. I agree with this.

what's ur take on prisoners coming out of the big house worse that they entered it?

What's ur take on innocent people going into jail and coming out bad mother fuckers because of what they had to do to survive?

someone needs to really look into the penal system. Frankly, it's shit. Kill or be killed in there.

The purpose of prison is punishment and serving justice, not trying to rehab or any of that. The problem with prison now is that there is no emphasis on making the prisons safe for prisoners to serve out their time. And really no one cares about that because, after all, they are criminals. I think there should be stratification based on severity of the crime they are convicted of. Murderers get housed seperate from rapists who are seperate from robbers who are seperate from white collar, etc.
That way the kid who is serving a mandatory minimum for slinging weed is not fucked with by the guy who raped and murdered someone.

 

[Delinquent]

I wish we could go back to corporal punishment.

Public lashings in the middle of town
Death penalty = firing squad the day of the conviction if no appeal is brought

Prison = no priviledges at all. No TV, gym, rec time, hell complete confinement in their cell even while eating. Only time they could be let out of their cage would be for medical reasons, parole hearings, etc

The repercussions (or lack thereof) of our judicial system is IMO the reason why we have so many of the problems today. Incarceration no rehabilitation. Well maybe one chance at rehabilitation (depending on the severity of the conviction) then if you fuck up again, no chance at rehab only the cage.

 

[the_alcatraz]

The purpose of prison is punishment and serving justice, not trying to rehab or any of that. The problem with prison now is that there is no emphasis on making the prisons safe for prisoners to serve out their time. And really no one cares about that because, after all, they are criminals. I think there should be stratification based on severity of the crime they are convicted of. Murderers get housed seperate from rapists who are seperate from robbers who are seperate from white collar, etc.
That way the kid who is serving a mandatory minimum for slinging weed is not fucked with by the guy who raped and murdered someone.

no you're wrong.

Purpose of prison = punishment + rehab, so when they're out they'll be able to function in society and not go back to prison. Otherwsie, they will serve their time, come out and kill again. What's the point then?

 

[binö]

i like the idea of forced labor, ala the gulag.
education through labor, with rewards for being a good worker

 

[needtogetarmy]

What happens if somene is wrongfully accussed?

Set them free. Let them sue the people who screwed up.