all right my 10-weeker

[blacksabbath1987]

all right my 10-weeker is up as of sat. i am running another 10-weeker ultra-test and deca. plus winny ed i am going to run d-bol for 5-weeks what do you bros think. i just finished up my var cycle with the first run 8-weeks. i want to keep the gains coming and the pumps also. is this a bad idea i have never run d-bol in the middle like this.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

all right my 10-weeker is up as of sat. i am running another 10-weeker ultra-test and deca. plus winny ed i am going to run d-bol for 5-weeks what do you bros think. i just finished up my var cycle with the first run 8-weeks. i want to keep the gains coming and the pumps also. is this a bad idea i have never run d-bol in the middle like this.

anybody!!!!

 

[immortalis]

anybody!!!!

well it would be better if we knew how much of each you were planning on taking... but the compounds sound nice! lol.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

well it would be better if we knew how much of each you were planning on taking... but the compounds sound nice! lol.

1cc of each a week and i thought i would start with 25/mg ed for the d-bol.
(winstrol 1cc ed) that is what i am doing now.

 

[androlic]

1cc of each a week and i thought i would start with 25/mg ed for the d-bol.
(winstrol 1cc ed) that is what i am doing now.

So what you are saying is that you're gonna run D-bol, winstrol, deca and test at the same time?

 

[blacksabbath1987]

So what you are saying is that you're gonna run D-bol, winstrol, deca and test at the same time?

yes

 

[drrman]

BRO....you started juicing in february with your first cycle and you've laid out like 4 different cycles back to back.......you ever think that maybe you should take a break, do some PCT, let your body get back online, clear your receptors and make another run at it in a few months or something?

I can tell you without a doubt long non stop cycle are not something a beginner should be doing, i have read many of your posts and many of the things you are taking and i can honestly tell you that you are going abou this in the wrong way bro. I like you and we have talked via pm on many things, but it seems as if you are just trying as many things as you can as fast as you can try them.

Slow down, you have the rest of your life to cycle.....i can promise you that you will quit seeing gains if you haven't already, they call them cycles because you should "cycle" them..........save the long 8 month runs with switching compounds till you have exhausted your body from gaining on normal runs.....you are overdoing it bro

 

[maxpain]

Sabbath, LISTEN to drrman. He is giving you a very WISE advise. Give yourself a break. You will be glad someone told you that. You might not like it now but in time you will see he is right.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

BRO....you started juicing in february with your first cycle and you've laid out like 4 different cycles back to back.......you ever think that maybe you should take a break, do some PCT, let your body get back online, clear your receptors and make another run at it in a few months or something?

I can tell you without a doubt long non stop cycle are not something a beginner should be doing, i have read many of your posts and many of the things you are taking and i can honestly tell you that you are going abou this in the wrong way bro. I like you and we have talked via pm on many things, but it seems as if you are just trying as many things as you can as fast as you can try them.

Slow down, you have the rest of your life to cycle.....i can promise you that you will quit seeing gains if you haven't already, they call them cycles because you should "cycle" them..........save the long 8 month runs with switching compounds till you have exhausted your body from gaining on normal runs.....you are overdoing it bro

i know i was going to get flamed at some point and im am trying to gain all i can on my first cycle and i am still gaining!!! i was at 185 now i am at 207 and still gaining bro!!i hate to come off when i am still growing bro. YOUR FIRST CYCLE IS YOUE BEST GAINS!!! their after maybe 5 pounds a cycle which still is not bad.i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors up to release the test even more.i know you are right my nads are still hanging long and lose and full of juice so you know evrything is in good tune.

 

[androlic]

how old are u? born in 1987'?

 

[androlic]

i know i was going to get flamed at some point and im am trying to gain all i can on my first cycle and i am still gaining!!! i was at 185 now i am at 207 and still gaining bro!!i hate to come off when i am still growing bro. YOUR FIRST CYCLE IS YOUE BEST GAINS!!! their after maybe 5 pounds a cycle which still is not bad.i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors up to release the test even more.i know you are right my nads are still hanging long and lose and full of juice so you know evrything is in good tune.

Of course you're still gaining when you are on the juice.. man'o'man.. How long have you been cycling now?

 

[drrman]

i know i was going to get flamed at some point and im am trying to gain all i can on my first cycle and i am still gaining!!! i was at 185 now i am at 207 and still gaining bro!!i hate to come off when i am still growing bro. YOUR FIRST CYCLE IS YOUE BEST GAINS!!! their after maybe 5 pounds a cycle which still is not bad.i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors up to release the test even more.i know you are right my nads are still hanging long and lose and full of juice so you know evrything is in good tune.

hey bro, you can do what you want, i was just stating my oppinion! i still think you are only hurting yourself in the long run by doing all this. I've often said "first cycle is the best so do it right" i say that meaning do a good dosage and stack 2-3 things and go for a nice 10 week run....i say that meaning 200mg test/week for 10 weeks is gonna leave you short of your potential, i never said that meaning cycle for months on end cause its your first cycle. My first cycle was 500mg sust, 400mg deca, 35mg dball/day, i only ran that 8 weeks and i put on 30lbs as i was dead on all my training and eating. You have only put on 20 total pounds in 4 months with a LOT of gear, maybe you should step back and re evaluate some things........

 

[SwolK]

i know i was going to get flamed at some point and im am trying to gain all i can on my first cycle and i am still gaining!!! i was at 185 now i am at 207 and still gaining bro!!i hate to come off when i am still growing bro. YOUR FIRST CYCLE IS YOUE BEST GAINS!!! their after maybe 5 pounds a cycle which still is not bad.i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors up to release the test even more.i know you are right my nads are still hanging long and lose and full of juice so you know evrything is in good tune.

I agree with DRRman...
you say you dont want to end your first cycle, but if it has really been 6-8 months you need to come off

 

[drrman]

and im not meaning to knock you blacksabbath, i like ya bro, just telling you what i think is best! You have many years left you can grow and gain! Cycles always end at some point, staying on to avoid the simple fact of coming off is not teh best idea!


and im know i may sound like a hippocrit as i've been on nearly a year now, but you have to remember i have reached my plateau many many years ago and i am not trying to go even further than that, i did my first cycle 8 years ago

 

[blacksabbath1987]

how old are u? born in 1987'?

old enough to sleep by myself. the 1987 stands for my buick grand national 1987 is the year it was made / it is turbo charged v6 with 700 hp to the rear wheels and i am 35 years old. i also have a bmw with 450 hp which is turbo charged. i like the rush when you hit the pedal to the floor and the whistle it makes as your blowing that mustang beside you ass off. can beleive i got out run by a v6.ha!!ha!!ha!! lol

 

[stuck]

i know i was going to get flamed at some point and im am trying to gain all i can on my first cycle and i am still gaining!!! i was at 185 now i am at 207 and still gaining bro!!i hate to come off when i am still growing bro. YOUR FIRST CYCLE IS YOUE BEST GAINS!!! their after maybe 5 pounds a cycle which still is not bad.i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors up to release the test even more.i know you are right my nads are still hanging long and lose and full of juice so you know evrything is in good tune.

This is a pretty extreme perversion of logic.

Judging how well your body tolerates long cycles by what shape your balls are is a piss poor technique. Mine do not shrink at all when on, but if you don't run proper PCT you will crash bigtime. Running a nonstop cycle as your first is just plain ignorance, and you're going to pay for it in the end.

 

[androlic]

old enough to sleep by myself. the 1987 stands for my buick grand national 1987 is the year it was made / it is turbo charged v6 with 700 hp to the rear wheels and i am 35 years old. i also have a bmw with 450 hp which is turbo charged. i like the rush when you hit the pedal to the floor and the whistle it makes as your blowing that mustang beside you ass off. can beleive i got out run by a v6.ha!!ha!!ha!! lol

Then you're probably old enough to understand that you should take a break? And of course you're still gaining while you're on the juice, but in the end you won't be able to gain at all I guess. Take a break, and then hit it again. Even though they say the first cycle is the best, you should not worry that 2nd cycle won't make you grow.
This just sounds extreme

 

[blacksabbath1987]

old enough to sleep by myself. the 1987 stands for my buick grand national 1987 is the year it was made / it is turbo charged v6 with 700 hp to the rear wheels and i am 35 years old. i also have a bmw with 450 hp which is turbo charged. i like the rush when you hit the pedal to the floor and the whistle it makes as your blowing that mustang beside you ass off. can beleive i got out run by a v6.ha!!ha!!ha!! lol

i hear you drman and other bros. i have only been on for 10-weeks as of last sat. 20/pounds is not to bad when i do alot of cardio i know i have burnt some muscle but my jui-jit-su class takes some hard training sessions.if i could do less cardio i would. plus i heart my eye three weeks ago and had to slow down because i could not see. that really piss me off because it was hard to train with 1-eye shut kinda like having 1-ear stopped up throws you off balance.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

i hear you drman and other bros. i have only been on for 10-weeks as of last sat. 20/pounds is not to bad when i do alot of cardio i know i have burnt some muscle but my jui-jit-su class takes some hard training sessions.if i could do less cardio i would. plus i heart my eye three weeks ago and had to slow down because i could not see. that really piss me off because it was hard to train with 1-eye shut kinda like having 1-ear stopped up throws you off balance.

all right bros i will run my pct now (damn) you guys are right i know that i will start clomid today!! i know you are not trying to flame me!!!!! you guys are like one big family looking out for ones well being. so know bad vibes taken here bros wish me luck on pct!!!!!!

 

[drrman]

all right bros i will run my pct now (damn) you guys are right i know that i will start clomid today!! i know you are not trying to flame me!!!!! you guys are like one big family looking out for ones well being. so know bad vibes taken here bros wish me luck on pct!!!!!!

10 weeks and 20 lbs is actually good gains bro, especially stayinig lean.......you have mentioned NUMEROUS compounds you were trying/taking in teh past few months i was under the impression you had been on for 12-16 weeks, 10 weeks is a good stopping poing, start back in 8 weeks or so!

 

[slat1]

I remember my first run. It was 250mg's of test ent for ten weeks. I went from 200 to 220 lbs. I knew nothing about hcg/clomid and a few months later I was back down to 206.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

10 weeks and 20 lbs is actually good gains bro, especially stayinig lean.......you have mentioned NUMEROUS compounds you were trying/taking in teh past few months i was under the impression you had been on for 12-16 weeks, 10 weeks is a good stopping poing, start back in 8 weeks or so!

no just 10 but the reason i ran different test is to keep the receptors responding!!and it worked out great for me doing it this way.your a good bro and i know all of you are right.i guess i will be hitting the creatine and doubling up on my protein to keep my gains.and start using msm for my joints soon. thanks!!!!for the straight up respones.

 

[mikefear]

get an AI, AIFM...it'll kill the bloat and keep you from turning into a woman

 

[blacksabbath1987]

get an AI, AIFM...it'll kill the bloat and keep you from turning into a woman

have it and been using through the cycle.

 

[blacksabbath1987]

have it and been using through the cycle.

i have pics from when i first started/and up to now but i am not going to become a plat-just to post some pics i will try to put them elsewere and you can go to that site and check them out. for my first cycle the veins look freakish!!!!!!!!!but then again i love the vein look.

 

[stressman13]

>i have my hcg and clomid and other great compounds to open the receptors >up to release the test even more

Im not tring to flame at all or anything but what exactly does this statement mean....

 

[drrman]

i have pics from when i first started/and up to now but i am not going to become a plat-just to post some pics i will try to put them elsewere and you can go to that site and check them out. for my first cycle the veins look freakish!!!!!!!!!but then again i love the vein look.

you can post pics if you are not plat bro, i think....you just can't view them unless you are plat

 

[slat1]

i have pics from when i first started/and up to now but i am not going to become a plat-just to post some pics i will try to put them elsewere and you can go to that site and check them out. for my first cycle the veins look freakish!!!!!!!!!but then again i love the vein look.

www.photobucket.com

Its free. You post the link in your reply and the pictures show up full size for everyone to see.

 

[CO B-man]

Editted

Disregard my comment I thought I read you were on a cycle for much longer

 

[blacksabbath1987]

Editted

Disregard my comment I thought I read you were on a cycle for much longer

this is for stressman13 clomid and hcg/now to really open the receptors up after a long cycle. compound called (TESLAC) 50mg after a long cycle of test/ they hang around this opens the receptors up again. all the pro body builders use this compound. it is very expensive but worth every penny. do a search yourself and check it out. this is pharmacy grade.

 

[stressman13]

this is for stressman13 clomid and hcg/now to really open the receptors up after a long cycle. compound called (TESLAC) 50mg after a long cycle of test/ they hang around this opens the receptors up again. all the pro body builders use this compound. it is very expensive but worth every penny. do a search yourself and check it out. this is pharmacy grade.

I know plenty about clomid and hc but am in the dark on teslac...ill do a search....thanks...

 

[SwolK]

glad to see you are being smart.

post up pics to photobucket as slat mentioned

 

[blacksabbath1987]

glad to see you are being smart.

post up pics to photobucket as slat mentioned

i will work on this tonight.see yah bros!!!!!!