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So based on several posts this is where I am heading towards for a possible cycle so please critique from all perspectives. Thanks!!

Weeks*****Enanthate******EQ*********Fina******
1----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
2----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
3----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
4----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
5----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
6----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
7----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
8----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
9----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
10--------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
11--------------------------------------------------------------------
12--------------------------------------------------------------------
13---------300mgs clom first day / 100mgs ED---------------
14---------50mgs ED-----------------------------------------------
15---------50mgs ED-----------------------------------------------

Also= Please note that I will start Liquidex and Bromo
 
Yeah either run the fina weeks 7-12 or you could throw in some test prop for your weeks 11 and 12 and then get on your Clomid! Cycle looks good bro!
 
That is a very solid Cycle! I would move the fina from weeks 7 to 12. I see no need for prop during weeks 11-12 as you will still have enanthate circulating until week 13. I would run 500ius of hcg every saturday and sunday throughout the cycle. This will stop the chances of any testicular atrophy from setting in. I wouldnt wait until the end or even until mid-cycle. My thoughts on it are to never let any atrophy happen if you can, because you never know if it might be permenant.

Solid cycle!

PS: no need for bromo!!
 
Thanks to all the bros on this board plus LAWNSAVOR, here is my new official cycle according to you guys!!! If any more critiques set in, as always there is always room for modification.

Weeks*****Enanthate******EQ*********Fina******
1----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
2----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
3----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
4----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
5----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
6----------------750mgs---------600mgs-------------------------
7----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
8----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
9----------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
10--------------750mgs---------600mgs-----75mgsEOD------
11------------------------------------------------75mgsEOD------
12------------------------------------------------75mgsEOD------
13---------300mgs clom first day / 100mgs ED---------------
14---------50mgs ED-----------------------------------------------
15---------50mgs ED-----------------------------------------------

Also, I have PLENTY of Liquidex on hand so I will start that day 1 of first cycle at 1/4th cc till end of week 15...(or should i stop it till day 1 of clomids)

Also, for the HCG, I will take 500IU's every saturday and sunday from week 1 till the last day of clomids or the beginnnign of clomids?

Also, how come I wont need to take the Bromo with my fina considering i have it on hand allready?

And last but not least, when should I start taking Clenbuteral on this cycle where i can go 2 weeks on/2 weeks off with ECA....and how much clen should I take and what brands should i stay away from...I will find out the brand that I have access to and reply later...thanks guys!!!!!!!!!
 
Take the HCG up until 1 week prior to clomid. Remember HCG will do nothing to restart your HPTA...its even inhibitory! You are taking throughout to make sure your testicles do not atrophy and thats it! You will be very happy with this cycle if your diet it strong!

Good Luck!
 
It's good the you revised it. This would be a great first cycle, second cycle, any cycle. I would keep some dbol on hand in case you have a recovery problem with the tren. You should consider getting P Seven for when you start the tren. It will keep you calm without "sedating" you, very important on tren. It will also help your libido.
One more thing. I would start proviron in 9 and continue through 12.
 
thanks a lot LAWNSAVOR, appreciate your help over here!!! how about the liquidex and bromo though? Also the clen? and for diet being strong, this is where I NEED HELP....I go to school so its pretty hard and I have to eat there a lot....is it ok If i have carbs?? they make grilled chicken and broccoli (fresh) can i put a little terrika sauce on it take ALA before and eat that every 2-3 hours, plus protien shakes...... I dont want to diet STRICT but I dont want to eat shit like sweets and bread....like can i stick to the basics, have pasta, chicken, fish, rice, meat balls?

also, I wanted to ask you what is the ULTIMATE FAT BURNING technique I could do during this cycle? how about using HGH for its fat burning properties also.....I mean I will make sure i consume HIGH amounts of protien as thats imperitive but my fat intake and carb intake I will keep to a mininimum as much as possible but god dam I LOVE TO EAT..also can i take this clenbuteral??

this is the clenbuteral i have access to, should i get this kind or you recommend something else?

Clenbuterol, Hubei China, 0.04mg(double strength)
 
Ok ulter, thanks but what is P seven? is it something i can get OTC or i have to know someone? also thats why i originially was going to take fina in the middle of the cycle because I heard that the fina crash isn't to nice and thats why you shouldn't necessarily end with fina...I also have bromo for progesteron sides i believe, should i dump the bromo? thanks....
 
HGH, would be a killer addition! Jesus, for a college student, you have a nice buget for gear. As for eating, solid foods are great, but pick up a big jug of protien and carry around a few scoops in a drink tumbler and hit the water foutain every few hours. This should help you get 100-150 additioanl grams of protien!

Proviron would be a great addition too. Occupying more SHBG's will allow more free test to circulate...this is a good thing!

Clen is fine, but cycle it 2 weeks on 2 off! T-3 at a small dose is fine. Your diet will dictate your results! Keep it clean and you will stay lean!
 
ulter said:
This would be a great first cycle, second cycle, any cycle.
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We have differing opinions on what is appropriate for a first cycle. Personally, I couldn't justify advising a first timer to take between 1350mg to 1425mg composed of several different compounds for ten to twelve weeks.


BTW, P Seven is alcohol, glycerin, propylene glycol, oleic acid, peppermint oil, 7-oxo DHEA and pregnenolone. Ulter sells it. Click on the link in his sig if you're interested.
 
"I couldn't justify advising a first timer to take between 1350mg to 1425mg composed of several different compounds for ten to twelve weeks."

It's 10 weeks. 11-12 have less than 300mg.
But if you can't justify advising someone to use this for a 1st Cycle then don't.
I'll do it.

P-Seven is a new formulation from MP Technologies. It's relatively inexpensive and incredibly effective. You can buy it at the AF Store.
 
ummmmm, i never said this was my first cycle, this is my first in 2 years but alltogether this will be my 5th.. so i guess forget about the HGH then, huh lawnsavor? also when should i start the clen stack? should i use exenedrine or NYC for the off 2 weeks? also, with protien, i will have meso-tech shakes in between my meals, how does that sound? also, when you say diet is key, do you mean by consuming a great amount of protien? give me an example of your diet...if you dont mind..thanks:)
 
ulter said:
But if you can't justify advising someone to use this for a 1st Cycle then don't.
I'll do it.
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As I said, our opinions regargding what is appropriate for a first cycle differ.

ulter said:
P-Seven is a new formulation from MP Technologies. It's relatively inexpensive and incredibly effective. You can buy it at the AF Store.
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I'm curious, how much pregnenolone per serving? How many servings per container?
 
Just a little hang up of mine, but I'd have to pass on it unless I knew the dosages.

Regardless, I'd expect that the formulation may prove usefull durring post-cycle recovery as well as mid cycle support.
 
Ok Ulter, I just purchased 3 bottles of NYC on Anabolic Fitness....So how should I take this supposingly great stuff? is this the best fat burner out there now?
 
Shoot Me Up said:
Ok Ulter, I just purchased 3 bottles of NYC on Anabolic Fitness....So how should I take this supposingly great stuff? is this the best fat burner out there now?
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NYC is one of the best out there. Take the recomended dose! If you can take more, add a little more. VPX's ThinFat is a great addition too! www.dpsnutrition.net it the cheapest most bioavailable CLA out there!
 
wow, well thanks ULTER, now you got me really excited about NYC!!!! is 3 bottles going to be enough?!! also, is it ok if I go 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with .40mcg clen that I just ordered also? if so, how should I take the NYC along with clen in conjunction together? will there be any tappering off with the NYC or CLEN on the second week or just upping the dose straight up..also if i go up a tab on NYC and get up to 6 and second week is done then clen starts...when i go back to NYC, do i start on 6 tabs first day or start the origininal 2 tabs and up a tab again.

also, i want to make sure I have enough NYC and clen on stock for one cycle....do i need to order more then 3 bottles of NYC, and is .40mcg of 100 clen enough also?

how long can i stay on clen/NYC 2 weeks on 2 weeks off for?

thanks....this should cover this issue after this reply!!!!!! your best Ulter and lawnsavor!!!!
 
sounds good, thanks a lot ULTER!! also, i forgot the name of that thing you had for the fina crash, i want to buy some...what is it called again and what does it do? thanks....take care...oh yeah, one more thing....from the exact last week of my cycle, how long can i expect to keep my gains for untill I am back exactly the way I was before i started.....

here are the supplements i plan on buying by the way!!.

1.) Milk thistle
2.) ALA
3.) cranberry extract for kidneys (anything better for kidneys?)
4.) liverite
5.) Saw palmetto
6.) Fish oil

anything missing from the list to keep my organs safe and all???
 
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