alcohol

[Quiltie]

I could have sworn that I've seen a study posted that shows that even a tiny amount of Blood Alcohol Level reduces GH, FSH, and other hormones to extremely low levels. Operating under that assumption for years, additionally the long high insulin response is a problem. Mac, X? I'll try to dig up the article...
The short of it was there is no possibility of muscle growth at all if ANY alcohol is present in the system.

 

[immortalis]

I could have sworn that I've seen a study posted that shows that even a tiny amount of Blood Alcohol Level reduces GH, FSH, and other hormones to extremely low levels. Operating under that assumption for years, additionally the long high insulin response is a problem. Mac, X? I'll try to dig up the article...
The short of it was there is no possibility of muscle growth at all if ANY alcohol is present in the system.

Well, I havent done any research on the subject. But i do know that I have at least 1 glass of red wine a night... every single night.

In the last 18 weeks I've put on 30+ pounds. Im currently in week 10 of a Test520/Deca500 stack.

So I believe that would discredit the statement that there is "no possibility of muscle growth at all if ANY alcohol is present".

 

[todoveritas]

I think 1-2 drinks a night would not be too hard a stress on your liver (provided you are NOT on any 17-alkylated orals). In fact, it may do some good in reversing the adverse lipid effects AAS cause. Look at all the recent red wine studies. However, becoming FUBAR'd would offer nothing but bad news.

 

[itlnstln]

I think 1-2 drinks a night would not be too hard a stress on your liver (provided you are NOT on any 17-alkylated orals). In fact, it may do some good in reversing the adverse lipid effects AAS cause. Look at all the recent red wine studies. However, becoming FUBAR'd would offer nothing but bad news.

****damn****

 

[BigCracker]

Alcohol will inhibit your gains, slow your metabolic rate and lead you to eat pizza at 3am. Cutting my drinking has helped tremendously; however, we all must live. Everything in moderation.

Another thing to consider is the people that you surround yourself that live this party lifestyle. They aren't exactly a positive influence on you achieving your fitness goals. I recently saw pics of guys I graduated from high school with and I couldn't recognize even one of them because they all fat frumpy bald old farts. Yet I still bang chicks around their daughter's age w/o a problem. Also 20 yrs ago I didn't have to worry about my dick falling off or catching the HIV if I was drunk and banged a slut w/o a condom. Condoms were for birth control only, not life preservers like they are now. Looking back I'm amazed I survived countless trips driving home wasted. Many people that drink aren't so lucky and wind up dying themselves or killing someone and ending up in the pokey on manslaughter charges.

 

[Quiltie]

Ahhhh, a Medline study...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7771665&dopt=Abstract

Additionally:
"7-AVOID ALCOHOL during strength-speed phase training; alcohol neutralizes hormonal influence during muscle synthesis."

That's what I'm saying. There are about 500,000 studies that show the relationship. Not that I don't enjoy a good MadDog 20/20 in Kiwi Lime now and then...

 

[todoveritas]

Ahhhh, a Medline study... Guess there are exceptions, right?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7771665&dopt=Abstract

Quiltie-you are awesome! I would like to add that ethanol also interferes with DNA binding and transcription-activating properties that cause protein synthesis. However, these studies primarily documented slow growth due to diminished GH release using alcoholics as its test population. I would think the same effect wouldn't necessarily be seen in relatively healthy BB's. (They wouldn't let me give you any more K) Can anyone give this guy some K for doing some good research?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

all the research that indicates positive effects from alcohol consumption, also indicate that more than 1 drink per day (over 18g of alcohol) has negative impacts.

as a note- none of these studies have been done in steroid users, however many of the negative impacts of higher consumption will likely be elevated in this sub group.

 

[itlnstln]

all the research that indicates positive effects from alcohol consumption, also indicate that more than 1 drink per day (over 18g of alcohol) has negative impacts.

as a note- none of these studies have been done in steroid users, however many of the negative impacts of higher consumption will likely be elevated in this sub group.

Excellent point bro

 

[Ozz2001]

alcohol is posion to your body period. We should die from it by law but we dont at low levels..So if your drink the body will be to busy to trying to remove it then building muscle its a proven fact....Not saying that a lite social drink on your days off will hurt you because it wont! being one to three drinks or so.......My opinion...