Ah, the maturity and open-mindedness of the far left....

[MattTheSkywalker]

Hey Matt do you still think there's any way to work together with Liberals? I think there isn't. But I'd like to hear some words of hope. lol

it is hard to work with anyone who clings to a belief system that is inherently person-hating. Make no mistake, liberalism is person hating. Someone like WODIN will probably come on here and say that liberals overcame decades of conservative suppression of sexuality etc., but they are wrong, those who did that were libertarians, despite their party affailitation. Today's liberalism by definition includes the concept of "wealth redistribution". This is anti-producer, and therefore person hating. You either must give up your wealth, or wait for someone else to provide for you.

Almost all of today's politicians have become liberal in this sense. Even "neo-con" (whatever that is) GW Bush authorized the highest ever federal budget and has provided more funding to Medicare and SS than any other President. he is actually seeking to expand these programs. Politics today is a game of trading voters.

Politicians almost always seek to expand government; it makes them more relevant. In order to expand government, you need a "reason". An external threat is one reason; there is a famous line from Hermann Goering about the ability to bring the will of the people to the mindset of the leader by using an external enemy. History is replete with this.

The other way to expand government is to identify problems and suggest public sector solutions. The problems do not have to be real, they just have to be perceived as real. The War on Drugs is a good example, so is Social Security, of this type of politics.

So it is not "liberals" per se that are the cause of any societal ills, rather, a government composed of individuals who, seeking to retain or expand power, consider only enlarging the government. Sadly, no one has yet found a rewind button.

There is no easy fix, but there are a few ideas that would go a long way,

(1) Term limits for Congressmen. Three terms, both houses.
(2) Give the president the line-item veto. This function can only be used to reduce spending; it harms no one. Create a line-item override, too.

too easy.

 

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the point?

 

[jerseyart]

Well said Matt

They idealize personal slavery to others, and then cry selfish if one has the audacity to believe they are entitled to live their lives for themselves or seek trheir own personal betterment.

And like all fanatics, they justify their every trespass into personal libertu, speech or otherwise, with what they imagine to be the greater good.

Little wonder Staling and others always found so much sympathy in their ranks

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

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This is an example of obfuscation; attempt to confuse the issue and / or the other side without addressing the issue at all.

This is among the favorite techniques of politicans, and the dumb Americans who think this way are a symptom (not a cause) of the sickness embedded in our political process.

 

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I always liked to politics of language of either side.
ex. "Pro Choice"= pro abortion. But no ever says "Im pro-abortion".
Therefore if someone claims to be literally pro choice then that in theory would encompass the choice to gun ownership. Or the right to choose a myriad of things simply on the premise of being pro choice. I would think that if someone is pro abortion than it wouldnt be a problem to simply say "Im pro abortion".
in case you didnt know I am pro abortion. lol

 

[Razorguns]

The exact reason why i left Canada in the first place.

Though i love Canada and the people -- the liberals forced me to make a decision i otherwise would not have made:

I had plans to make a lot of money in my career. It would have been non-sensical to do so in a climate and political atmosphere that desires to suck the *most* of you for doing such a commendable activity. Thereby slapping you in the face, and giving that money to others.

I already feel bad paying $2500+ a month in taxes and feelin' jipped on my return on government investment.

Liberalism is fine when it counters societies ill through proper and educated responses by society. But creating a system where it's used solely as a purpose to perputuate a "them vs us" mentality completely ruins that idealogy.

 

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2500 bucks? guess it depends on your gross monthly but thats still a chunk of change.

 

[DJ_UFO]

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I don't know what is the real point of posting something like this, but what I guess, after reading several posts from this dude, is that he deeply hates the American White race. That is his real frustration and his objective with all this posts. Most of those southern farmers whites are Republican. Most of the decisions taken at war, come from Whites. Our president, is White. All perfectworld's threads, political, sexual, medical, whatever, are intended to attack and put people in ridiculous. All that people, are always Whites. This post clearly shows nothing else than hate against White race. It's sad to know that there's so many people in this nation feeling so inferior to the rest.

 

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