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after the sust or after the winny

newton455

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here is my up and coming first cycle and i do not Know as to if i start the clomid therapy 3 weeks after the last shot of sustanon or after the winny

DBOL 20 MG ED WEEKS 1-6
SUST 250 MG WEEKLY, WEEKS 1-10
WINNY 50MG ED WEEKS 7-12
ARIMIDEX .25 MG ED WEEKS 1-12
CLOMID ( POST SUSTANON OR POST WINNY THAT IS THE QUESTION)

AS WELL ANY ADVICE OR CRITISIZM WOULD BE HELPFUL AS I SAID THIS IS MY FIRST CYCLE AND I AM LOOKING TO BULK AND LEAN IF POSSIBLE. I'M 5'10.5 FT TALL AND 230 LBS WITH A BIT OF A BELLY NOT ALOT I'M NATURALY ON THE THICK SIDE (SCOTTISH)
 
THAT SOUNDS LIKE ALOT

500 MG A WEEK SUSTANON SOUNDS LIKE ALOT I DO NOT WANT TO SEEM OUT OF LINE BUT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT A PERSON THAT CALLS THEMSELF NEEDLEBOY IS RECOMENDING I UP DOSAGES PLEASE CONFIRM WHY YOU FEEL THIS WAY
 
hey bro

I saw a formula for determining doses and it read pretty solid.

I dont remember where I read it but it does sound good goes something like this.

65-75 % from HIGH androgens (TEST etc)
25-35 % from HIgh anabolics (EQ, WINNY etc)

bODY WEIGHT X LENGTH of BLOCK (7-10days)

**Block is how you subdivide your cycle..in weeks or 10 days whatever.***

Take total of that and multiply to find 65-75% of it and that will be how many MG of androgens you'll need. whatever is left over will be anabolics.that would be an effective stack I suppose.

example 215lb guy
215 X 7 days = 1505 total milligrams

1128 milligrams TEST (high andro) Rnd up EX. 1200mg/wk CYP
377 milligrams anabolics rnd up ex. 400mg wk DECA

Thats a good place to start.
 
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bro, most men produce a little less than 250mg test/week... so if you only take 250, you wont really be increasing your test too much because your production will stop. thats why you need 500mg. good luck!
 
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