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babaa

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should I deload first and then start advanced, or should I directly do to advanced, since the first 2 weeks would be kinda a deload?
 
Can you make progress on the beginner or intermediate or whatever you were doing? Advanced isn't better, but it is unfortunately necessary to keep progressing after a certain point.....it doesn't matter how long you've been training or what your lifts are, if you can progress on something simpler, don't change it.
 
babaa said:
I am doing intermediate right now - am just asking in case I wont make any progress

Don't worry, you will. If you don't its because either

a) You overestimated how strong u were to start and should decrease the weights

or

b) You're not eating enough

Only other variables effort and halfway decent form. Based on your log my guess is you'd have to add about 50 american pounds of muscle and double all your lifts before you consider the advanced. Strength devlopment is a logn term evolution it's not a quick transition.

Unfortunately :(
 
babaa said:
so u mean I should not do advanced before I DL 5x350kg and weigh 110kg @1,74m?

No I'm not saying that... or at least didn't mean to. It's not an exact numbers thing. I'm just saying you've got a lot of development to go before you should bother with the advanced routine.
 
Lift numbers and size have absolutely nothing to do with which program you should do; how fast you can make progress is what defines your training level. I really doubt that, after one run of the linear 5x5, you aren't still capable of making weekly progress.

But the above was probably a bunch of wasted keystrokes, since every douche sees the word 'advanced' next to a program equates it with 'better' and thinks "Hey, I've been reading Flex and using hardcore training methods like supersets and pre-exhaustion for a year and a half, I must be advanced."
 
Ok..let me ask the other in a different way, if I stop progressing on what I am doing now(whenever this is), should I deload and start a new/same program or should I directly start a new/same program w/o deload?
 
babaa said:
Ok..let me ask the other in a different way, if I stop progressing on what I am doing now(whenever this is), should I deload and start a new/same program or should I directly start a new/same program w/o deload?

restarting the program includes a deload since u're not supposed to hit your current maxes until the 4th week. So lets say you can bench 135 pounds, you would work do week 1 maybe 120, week 2 125, week 3 130, week4 135... (it would actually be less each week if you were microloading but whatever...), and then u progressed 5 pounds a week until you stalled at 185.

You would restart the program by doing 170 week 1, 175 week 2, 180 week 3, 185 week 4, and then slingshot forward... and on and on.
 
It depends on how fatigued you are. Unless you pushed way too far (e.g., training two weeks past when your squat and dead stalled and beginning to regress) the single-factor 5x5's rampup should be enough of a deload since you're only doing one working set for each lift.
 
Kabeetz said:
Don't worry, you will. If you don't its because either

a) You overestimated how strong u were to start and should decrease the weights

or

b) You're not eating enough

Only other variables effort and halfway decent form. Based on your log my guess is you'd have to add about 50 american pounds of muscle and double all your lifts before you consider the advanced. Strength devlopment is a logn term evolution it's not a quick transition.

Unfortunately :(
You're not eating enough
 
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