Advise

[JB181]

New to the board, Have to say there is a lot of good information on here. What I need is some advice on a first cycle. I ‘am 37, 5’11, 200lb, 11%bf lifting 4 years diet sucked, now my diet has been good and clean for the last 10 months 3500 cals a day around 450 grams of protein and 350 grams of carbs and 50 grams of fat. Seen a cycle in the chemical wizardry using winstrol depot, primobolan depot, andriol for an eight week cycle. It say’s no post cycle is needed any commets on that. I’am also going to Thailand in a few months and I know gear is available there. Any help would be great. Thanks

 

[The Terminator]

Stick with something cheap and effective and simple, test 400 mg/week for 10 weeks...

 

[JB181]

Thanks for the information.

 

[galaxy]

I dont think you need that much protein. Cut out about 100g.

 

[JB181]

Thanks for the information. I am going to do a Deca cycle for 10 weeks at 400mg.
Did some more research saying clomid at 50mg should be taken daily and three more weeks after last injection any commets on this, I have seen here that it is a big debate to take it or not. I going on the safe side and take it. Will also have nolvadex standing by in case of gyno. Thanks Terminator

 

[The Terminator]

Forget the clomid while on cycle, it won't help with anything...
You may want to take atleast 200 mg/week of test with that deca (I always like to take in exogenous test once you inhibit your natural production)

 

[Laser0001]

If you get gyno from deca ,nolvadex is not going to help.

 

[thx9000]

As above, you will need dostinex or bormo to combat gyno from deca. If you add a just a little test then you probably wont need an anti-e but having the nolva on hand would be useful in that case.

If you choose to use the clomid then it would be started three weeks after the last deca shot. Not sure your post meant that you were going to continue it for 3wk post deca or what your plan was.

 

[JB181]

So 3 weeks after the last injection start taking clomid for 21 days .But if I add some test 200mg per week there would be no need? Sorry for so many question but I have been doing a lot of reading and I want to do this right the first time.


JB181

 

[The Terminator]

So 3 weeks after the last injection start taking clomid for 21 days .But if I add some test 200mg per week there would be no need? Sorry for so many question but I have been doing a lot of reading and I want to do this right the first time.

You will still need clomid during PCT...The test is only recommended since your natural test will be non functional it is beneficial to have some test in your system (your gf will thank you)...Something like this...
Deca 300-400 mg/week weeks 1-10
Test 200 mg/week weeks 1-10

Start PCT 3 weeks after last injection of deca...