advice needed on my second cycle

[samb213]

hey all how does the following cycle look for a lean bulk

tri test 400 per week
equipoise 300 per week
mast e 200 per week

superdrol for the first 4 weeks of the cycle at 40 mg per day

cycle support while on the drol

armoasin at 10 mg per day if needed

hcg pre PCT blast

nolva and clomid for PCT

curently weighing in at 215 at 5.8 about 14 percent bodyfat wont be starting this cycle till im at least 10 percent tho

looking to eat around 1.5 to 2 gs carbs per pound of lean bodymass will adjust tho if i start gettin too fat

protien at around 400 per day

fats at around 100 per day

this is only my second injectable cycle so dont know if im going overboard

still gonna be doing cardio low intensity 3 days per week for 30 mins ish and traning 4 days per week kinda fst7 style



anyways wat you all think of the above ..am i going overboard or does this look allright

 

[Essie]

prochem tri test 400 per week
pro chem equipoise 300 per week
pre chem mast e 200 per week

Welcom to EF!

First off Bro ... no lab names, so please edit them out (the Bold ones up there.

Then go read here >> http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...d-paid-account-use-site-come-read-649306.html

Then ... how old are you?

Correct this post and then we'll gladly assist you.

 

[samb213]

yer sorry about that i should of read the rules first anyways ive edited the names out and im 28 been training for around 10 years on and off

 

[Essie]

yer sorry about that i should of read the rules first anyways ive edited the names out and im 28 been training for around 10 years on and off

Okay, let's see ... ... ...

Wk 1-4 - superdrol @ 40 mg/day
Wk 1-12 - tri test 400 per week
Wk 1-16 - equipoise 300 per week
Wk 1-12 - mast e 200 per week - You will waste money if you run this now ... your %BF HAS TO BE BELOW 10% to run Mast successfully, so I would drop it for now.
Aromasin @ 12.5mg/Day or EOD if needed ... start with EOD and if the symptoms persist, move to ED.
No need for a Pre PCT hcg blast ... rather run it from week 3-12 at 250iu/Wk
PLEASE, no Nolva ... it is not a good compound to use. For PCT use hcg @ 500iuX2/Wk and Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

So, you're cycle would look something like this:

Wk 1-4 - superdrol @ 40 mg/day
Wk 1-12 - tri test @ 400 per week
Wk 1-16 - equipoise @ 300 per week
Wk 3-12 - hcg @ 250iu/Wk
Aromasin on hand to start running @ 12.5MG EOD. If not successful, up to 12.5mg/Day
PCT:
Wk 18-21 - hcg @500iuX2 Wk
Wk 18-21 - Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

A better PCT would be Unleashed+Post Cycle-Combo, HCGenerate, Forma Stanazol with Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

 

[muscleaddiction]

How many weeks is your entire cycle?

I would bump up your EQ...

Nolva sucks...dump it.

PCT:

Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
Unleashed/Post Cycle (3 caps ea. ED)
Forma Stanzol (5 pumps am & pm first 4 wks, 3 pumps am & pm last 2 weeks, run 2 weeks past PCT)
DAA (3 grams ED)

Go read the rules like Essie said, do not post sources, and welcome to the forums.

On cycle support is most important and will dictate how effective your PCT will be, so you want to minimize testicular shutdown first ans foremost...HCG @ 500iu EW split or HCGenerate will accomplish this...the AI will help keep estrogen at bay, but you need to keep your boys from completely shutting down during cycle...so really need to know duration of cycle.

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[samb213]

thanks for the replys and yer i read that about mast but to be honest i wont be starting my cycle till im 10 percent or below bf i thought adding it at a low dose would kinda add some hardness and keep water retiontion lower...and i plan on running the cycle for 14 to 16 weeks

 

[samb213]

and yer i know wat you mean about nolva i recently finished a nolva daa and pes erase pct for a mild test cycle ..ive never been so shut down ever now im off it all everythings back to normal

 

[muscleaddiction]

and yer i know wat you mean about nolva i recently finished a nolva daa and pes erase pct for a mild test cycle ..ive never been so shut down ever now im off it all everythings back to normal

Nolva will not help your recovery...follow the protocol of not letting yourself shutdown during cycle, and it will make your PCT that much more effective...

You can also add SARMs MK-2866 (Osta) @ 25mg ED to help keep your gains, so add it to the above PCT layout and you will recover just fine.

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[samb213]

yer thanks for the help ill add the hcg through out my cycle then and for pct ill try and go with one of the recommendations above depending on wat i can get hold of but yer ill defo fuk the nolva off....so would the mast e be no use at all even wen i get down to 10 percent also is hcgenarate a legit replacment for injectable hcg

 

[muscleaddiction]

HCGenerate is an alternative yes, and works excellent! As far as Mast, it won't do you a bit of good at high bf %, so that being said, it also depends on your goals...I would say if you get down to 10% or lower incorporate it, if not then leave it out for now.

By the way, Essie laid out a nice cycle above and reinforced on cycle support and PCT protocols, so you have some good info here.to be successful if you choose to follow it.

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[samb213]

yer ill definatly go with the folowing then .. i was just looking into it and i dont think ill be able to get hold of hcgenerate and unleashed with me living in the uk

Wk 1-4 - superdrol @ 40 mg/day
Wk 1-12 - tri test @ 400 per week
Wk 1-16 - equipoise @ 300 per week
wk 1-12 - masteron @ 200 per week wen im down to at least ten percent bf i wont be starting this cycle till im at ten percent
Wk 3-12 - hcg @ 250iu/Wk
Aromasin on hand to start running @ 12.5MG EOD. If not successful, up to 12.5mg/Day
PCT:
Wk 18-21 - hcg @500iuX2 Wk
Wk 18-21 - Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

so dont i run the hcg at 250iu per week all the way upto pct then bump up to 500iu twice per week or do i stop dosing at 250ius per weeek from weeks 12 till 18 then start on 500ius x2 per week for pct is that right or have i read it wrong

cheers

 

[muscleaddiction]

yer ill definatly go with the folowing then .. i was just looking into it and i dont think ill be able to get hold of hcgenerate and unleashed with me living in the uk

Wk 1-4 - superdrol @ 40 mg/day
Wk 1-12 - tri test @ 400 per week
Wk 1-16 - equipoise @ 300 per week
wk 1-12 - masteron @ 200 per week wen im down to at least ten percent bf i wont be starting this cycle till im at ten percent
Wk 3-12 - hcg @ 250iu/Wk
Aromasin on hand to start running @ 12.5MG EOD. If not successful, up to 12.5mg/Day
PCT:
Wk 18-21 - hcg @500iuX2 Wk
Wk 18-21 - Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

so dont i run the hcg at 250iu per week all the way upto pct then bump up to 500iu twice per week or do i stop dosing at 250ius per weeek from weeks 12 till 18 then start on 500ius x2 per week for pct is that right or have i read it wrong

cheers

Predator Nutrition should have them, check there...you want to stop HCG at PCT, it is just to keep your boys active during cycle, then do your PCT for 4 weeks, and if you get all the supplements you need to run your PCT properly, then you will recover nicely. You have all the info above, if you search hard enough, you will find what you need.

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[Essie]

so dont i run the hcg at 250iu per week all the way upto pct then bump up to 500iu twice per week or do i stop dosing at 250ius per weeek from weeks 12 till 18 then start on 500ius x2 per week for pct is that right or have i read it wrong

cheers

Stop it after wk 12 and then start it again at 18.

 

[blue_steel74]

Personally, i think EQ needs to be ran at a min of 600/week. I ran it at 400 and didnt really see much benefit