Advice for tren/test pct

[Addcd2gains]

Ok so from what I've read I kinda wanna run clomid with unleashed for pct but but gear supplier told me I should just run test e at 250 mg a week for 10 weeks recovery till my next cycle.. Right now I'm taking 250mg sustanon and 375 mg tren a week split into 2 injections a week.. Any thoughts?


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[nickb86]

your supplier is an idiot and what you are reffering to is a bridge not a pct or recovery period. if you go onto a test dosage and run that you will not recover as you will be still be on and then youll jump into another cycle which means you will have of been for months. Longer youre on the harder eecovery is going to be and i would strongly advise against it.
For your pct run this combo.
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/post cycle
Daa powder 3gs a day, or the new test-infusion if you can.
Formastanzol.

 

[Addcd2gains]

your supplier is an idiot and what you are reffering to is a bridge not a pct or recovery period. if you go onto a test dosage and run that you will not recover as you will be still be on and then youll jump into another cycle which means you will have of been for months. Longer youre on the harder eecovery is going to be and i would strongly advise against it.
For your pct run this combo.
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Unleashed/post cycle
Daa powder 3gs a day, or the new test-infusion if you can.
Formastanzol.

That's what I was thinking he keeps sayin "trust me bro I've been doin this for 10 years". But 2 weeks in tren and I'm bigger than him lmao but I got a new supplier I'm gettin sustanon 250 and tren 250 for $90 a vial I almost shit when he told me the prices lol but ya just to be clear 25/25/25/25/25 means 5 days 25mgs a day right?? When Should I start takin the unleashed??


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[gusjones]

No,

25/25/25/25 means 25mg/day for each of 4 weeks.

example if it said 25/50/25/50 that would mean 25/day for first week, 50/day for second week, 25/day for third week. 50/day forth week.
please note i am not recommending 25/50/25/50

25/25/25/25 is what is recommended around here.

 

[Addcd2gains]

No,

25/25/25/25 means 25mg/day for each of 4 weeks.

example if it said 25/50/25/50 that would mean 25/day for first week, 50/day for second week, 25/day for third week. 50/day forth week.
please note i am not recommending 25/50/25/50

25/25/25/25 is what is recommended around here.

Ahh so ill be takin 25mg every day for for weeks pct?? If I go with clomid?


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[nickb86]

Ahh so ill be takin 25mg every day for for weeks pct?? If I go with clomid?


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yeh buddy 25mg a day for the 4 weeks pct period
wk1 25
wk2 25
wk3 25
wk4 25

 

[gymrat827]

25mg of clomid for a tren cycle.... are you kidding?? this has to be a joke.

dude, take 200mg the 1st 3 days of pct. than 100/75/50/25

this isnt a helladrol cycle guys, he needs a real pct or hes going to never come back. yes all those natty supps with help but the high dose of clomid is whats going to do the real work.


get some hcg for now, while your on.... it will really make pct easier and allows for faster recovery

 

[nickb86]

25mg of clomid for a tren cycle.... are you kidding?? this has to be a joke.

dude, take 200mg the 1st 3 days of pct. than 100/75/50/25

this isnt a helladrol cycle guys, he needs a real pct or hes going to never come back. yes all those natty supps with help but the high dose of clomid is whats going to do the real work.


get some hcg for now, while your on.... it will really make pct easier and allows for faster recovery

actually if you look into it 25mg is a very effective dosage at retsoring hpta function and rediculously high dosages just bring unwanted sides.
adding hcgenerate on cycle, and a HCG blast before pct will help recovery well also.

 

[Addcd2gains]

actually if you look into it 25mg is a very effective dosage at retsoring hpta function and rediculously high dosages just bring unwanted sides.
adding hcgenerate on cycle, and a HCG blast before pct will help recovery well also.

I'm only taking 250 test a week and 375 tren a week that's pretty low dosage but ya I think ill stick with 25mg... Lol I've never used clomid before, this is my first cycle anyways there is no way in hell I'm takin 100mg lmao


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[joeblow12345]

I'm only taking 250 test a week and 375 tren a week that's pretty low dosage but ya I think ill stick with 25mg... Lol I've never used clomid before, this is my first cycle anyways there is no way in hell I'm takin 100mg lmao


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Don't ever take more then 25 mg day of clomid unless you enjoy feeling like shit. Clomid at 25 mg is highly effective. That dose over a 6 week period has been shown to triple test levels. But it isn't enough alone. You need to run hcgen on cycle to minimize shutdown then blast hcg before pct to give you a nice boost going in and speed recovery. Using the post cycle/ unleashed combo with clomid, daa, and forma will make the process easier and more effective. After pct you can use bridge from Ntbm with Phyto serms to keep gaining naturally but it's up to you. On a side note talking about prices of juice is not allowed, but for your info he's ripping you off if those are 10 ml bottles.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.

Use code TEAM1001 at ruthless supps for a $50 off discount on transaderm and phytoserms.

 

[Addcd2gains]

Don't ever take more then 25 mg day of clomid unless you enjoy feeling like shit. Clomid at 25 mg is highly effective. That dose over a 6 week period has been shown to triple test levels. But it isn't enough alone. You need to run hcgen on cycle to minimize shutdown then blast hcg before pct to give you a nice boost going in and speed recovery. Using the post cycle/ unleashed combo with clomid, daa, and forma will make the process easier and more effective. After pct you can use bridge from Ntbm with Phyto serms to keep gaining naturally but it's up to you. On a side note talking about prices of juice is not allowed, but for your info he's ripping you off if those are 10 ml bottles.


Use code joeb15 for 15% of at Ntbm.

Use code TEAM1001 at ruthless supps for a $50 off discount on transaderm and phytoserms.

Ya with 100mg/mL I'm gettin dank ass prices man


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[kame2wreck]

Why are u running tren on your first cycle..? You need to do your research before putting your body through stronger aas. Tren is an awesome anabolic but the sides suck especially if you dont know how to manage them. Are u taking any caber or prami..?


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[Addcd2gains]

Why are u running tren on your first cycle..? You need to do your research before putting your body through stronger aas. Tren is an awesome anabolic but the sides suck especially if you dont know how to manage them. Are u taking any caber or prami..?


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I took it cause the guy I was trying them from said don't even fuck with the other aas cause this was perfect.. He knew it was my first time but I just assumed he knew what he was talking about.. Come to find he's a fuckin dumbass when I asked him if he could get me caber he asked me what caber was lol...


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[kame2wreck]

I took it cause the guy I was trying them from said don't even fuck with the other aas cause this was perfect.. He knew it was my first time but I just assumed he knew what he was talking about.. Come to find he's a fuckin dumbass when I asked him if he could get me caber he asked me what caber was lol...


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Bro ur only two weeks in, my suggestion is to hold on the tren, see how ur body reacts with test by itself, dont fuck around with ur body like that u can seriously fuck ur hormones up. I just finished a test prop/tren a cycle and it worked awesome, i loved it, but had horrible night sweats and agression was very high. I always cover my bases from day 1. Especially with aas that are 19nor like tren which elevate prolactin. If u cant find any prolactin antagonizers STOP the fkn tren before u hurt urself!


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[Trenbolonefuckedmyhealth]

guys trenbalone acetate fucked mz health got major eczema since 5 years, cant sleep more than 30 mins n YES I HAVE A FUCKING CYST ON MY LEFT KIDNEY CONFIRMED BY ULTRASOUND, YOUR DAFT IF YOU USE TREN AFTER READING THIS, my whole health is fucked and nothing i can do is putting it right, i wish i never touched the stuff and personally now its so bad i wish i never took any roids, im clean since 5 years and still experience pure torchure, itching is making me suicidal, any one with any sense should just appreciate the fact there body works normal and there healthy, anyway ive made my point, good luck making the right decision.

 

[Gym4Life]

I know I'm bumping an old thread but new member here and prefer to keep the clutter down and no sense staying a new thread which asks exactly what I need some help with.

Im looking to start a cycle Test C or Test E(Same difference) and Tren (I believe its Tren A as it is underground/lab made.

I know the importance of clomid or nolva post cycle starting 2-3 weeks after last shot, however Tren with test will be my 3rd cycle and I'm new to the knowledge of Nolva pct can make gyno or risk of gyno worse worse because of the prolactin from the tren? I hate Clomid as the side effects seem to be worse than Nolva which us stronger and dosed lower 40/40/20/20 usually?

Are tren users "forced" to use Clomid for PCT when stacking Tren or Deca bc of Nandrolone properties? What alternative PCT is there?

I'm looking to get Caber to use .5 to 1mg weekly on cycle as well as into PCT to help minimize the tren sides of well as using Forma Stanzol on cycle for any Test sides that could build up. How does this sound?

Could I use Nolva PCT if I'm using Cabergoline to counter any prolactin (believe that's what it is) caused from the 4-5 week Nolva after.

Looking to use Test 600mg/week (300mg/ml) shoot 3x week split up with the tren 100mg per shot to keep blood levels stable ( can't shoot everyday so I may not get 100% best use from Tren but ill take 80% of a great anabolic. Thanks again and any help or suggestions/personal experience definitely looking forward to! Cheers

 

[RickRock13]

I know I'm bumping an old thread but new member here and prefer to keep the clutter down and no sense staying a new thread which asks exactly what I need some help with.

Im looking to start a cycle Test C or Test E(Same difference) and Tren (I believe its Tren A as it is underground/lab made.

I know the importance of clomid or nolva post cycle starting 2-3 weeks after last shot, however Tren with test will be my 3rd cycle and I'm new to the knowledge of Nolva pct can make gyno or risk of gyno worse worse because of the prolactin from the tren? I hate Clomid as the side effects seem to be worse than Nolva which us stronger and dosed lower 40/40/20/20 usually?

Are tren users "forced" to use Clomid for PCT when stacking Tren or Deca bc of Nandrolone properties? What alternative PCT is there?

I'm looking to get Caber to use .5 to 1mg weekly on cycle as well as into PCT to help minimize the tren sides of well as using Forma Stanzol on cycle for any Test sides that could build up. How does this sound?

Could I use Nolva PCT if I'm using Cabergoline to counter any prolactin (believe that's what it is) caused from the 4-5 week Nolva after.

Looking to use Test 600mg/week (300mg/ml) shoot 3x week split up with the tren 100mg per shot to keep blood levels stable ( can't shoot everyday so I may not get 100% best use from Tren but ill take 80% of a great anabolic. Thanks again and any help or suggestions/personal experience definitely looking forward to! Cheers

For that cycle you would need the best possible PCT you can get. I wouldn't recommend Nolva following a nandrolone

Here is what I recommend:

PCT


Optimal PCT for best recovery:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AG Guys)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Test Stack 17 or PHYTOSERMS (see link below for info and discounts)
Ostarine 25mg per day (sarms1)

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...hytoserms-347-347-beyond-natural-1260633.html

Another effective PCT:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AG Guys)
Formastanozol 5 pumps twice daily (MR Supps)
Unleashed (NTBM or MR Supps)
Test Infusion (MR Supps)
Forged Methyl EAA (MR Supps or NTBM)
Ostarine 25mg per day (sarms1)

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