advanced Bodybuilders only !!! only reply

[bubba000]

I have done many cycles the past 8 years but I have more gear this time around for my next cycle. If you are a steroid guru or have had similiar steroid cycles that I will list please help. I need help with my next cycle, how many weeks?, how much per week? I weigh 190lbs at 5"10. would like to get to 205lbs and keep it, so I won't have to do another cycle for a long time. here is the list of supplements I have:
1) 17 amps Sustanon 250
2) 29 amps test. depot made by galinka a.d.
3) 30ml trenbolone@100mg per ml. (I have never used it before).
4) 400 pills dianabol 5mg pinks
5) 50 pills arimedex 1mg each( I have never used it before I am starting to get gyno so thought it would be a good idea this time).
6) 45 pills clomid 50mg each

I would relly appreiciate straight answers from serious bodybuilders. thanks

 

[sk*]

If you have done so many cycles, why would you need someone else to make a cycle for you. By now you should know your body and how you react to all gear and make one to optimize it for yourself.

-sk

 

[bubba000]

The reason I am posting is exactly what I said: I have never had this much gear before and I have never used trenbolone, or arimedex also I hear so much about how much test. to take a week. then I just heard something about sustanon must be injected more then 1 time a week. In the past I have only done up to 750mg of test. a week so I was curious if I would get better results if I uped it but I want to hear from someone who has done it to see if I would be wasting product if I use more. I figure I can never think I know everything so I am always willing to learn from someone who might know more then me. Yeh I have been on and off for 8 years but does that mean I know everyhting hell no!!! I am open for ideas.

 

[Stillgoing]

No need to add in all the qualifiers on who can reply. We typically only reply if we think we know what were talking about. Also, no flame, but, at 5'10 190 with many cycles under your belt, looks like you could use some good advice....

I'm not sure if I qualify as a "steroid guru", I probably qualify as "advanced" and I used to be a "serious competitor".....so, hopefully when I hit "submit reply" on your good graces hopefully you will accept my post....

 

[guards]

No need to add in all the qualifiers on who can reply. We typically only reply if we think we know what were talking about. Also, no flame, but, at 5'10 190 with many cycles under your belt, looks like you could use some good advice....

I'm not sure if I qualify as a "steroid guru", I probably qualify as "advanced" and I used to be a "serious competitor".....so, hopefully when I hit "submit reply" on your good graces hopefully you will accept my post....

Owned!!!


sweet

 

[bubba000]

I am only 190lbs your right but at 4% bf I have done 3 competitions in the last 2 years and place 1st at 2 out of 3 shows but the reason I'm posting is because I want to really bulk up I have a fast matabolism. so as far as you saying I need good advice yeh your right. So what advice to you have for me besides making comments and not answering. I would really appreciate help not critizism.

 

[Stillgoing]

I am only 190lbs your right but at 4% bf I have done 3 competitions in the last 2 years and place 1st at 2 out of 3 shows but the reason I'm posting is because I want to really bulk up I have a fast matabolism. so as far as you saying I need good advice yeh your right. So what advice to you have for me besides making comments and not answering. I would really appreciate help not critizism.

Good recovery. Ok -

First of all, at 4% (In my opinion) your bodyfat is too low to be in an off-season or bulking phase. Your basically in competition condition now. You should be able to gain 10-15lbs by letting your % go up to 8% or so. If your metabolism is really fast, you are just going to have to eat a ton of food to get there. In terms of the cycle, with what you have, I'd run something like:

- Test 750mg per week (combo of sust & depot or one or the other) weeks 1-10

- Dbol 30mg ED weeks 1-4, 9-12

- Tren 75mg ED for 5-6wks at your choice of weeks. You could run it first weeks, in middle when your not running dbol or at the end. If you have BP problems, you might not want to run dbol & tren together.

You would then run clomid starting 3 days after last dbol.

Run the arim ED probably 0.5mg ED throughout.

Hope this helps.....Get eating!!!!

 

[bubba000]

thanks.....so I shouldent go past 750mg test a week? I have heard so many stories that the more test the better and some say a little is all you need? that's why its so confusing if I knew I could take 1450 mg test a week and get double results I would.

 

[sk*]

More steroids, pretty much always, means more gains. After 8 cycles you really should know how much you need to grow.

I just don't get you. Safe tren dosage is 75mg/day.

-sk

 

[xxbignipperxx]

Good recovery. Ok -

First of all, at 4% (In my opinion) your bodyfat is too low to be in an off-season or bulking phase. Your basically in competition condition now. You should be able to gain 10-15lbs by letting your % go up to 8% or so. If your metabolism is really fast, you are just going to have to eat a ton of food to get there. In terms of the cycle, with what you have, I'd run something like:

- Test 750mg per week (combo of sust & depot or one or the other) weeks 1-10

- Dbol 30mg ED weeks 1-4, 9-12

- Tren 75mg ED for 5-6wks at your choice of weeks. You could run it first weeks, in middle when your not running dbol or at the end. If you have BP problems, you might not want to run dbol & tren together.

You would then run clomid starting 3 days after last dbol.

Run the arim ED probably 0.5mg ED throughout.

Hope this helps.....Get eating!!!!

This is exactly what I wanted to try out with Dbol. I went dbol for 6 weeks, 3 weeks prior to sust (500mg/week), and the minute I got off Dbol, I lost some weight and strength. I'm pretty convinced the sust (tornell supertest) is junk. I'm on my 6th week of sust and haven't gotten stronger or added a pound. My diet and routine have been great, but it just ain't cuttin' it for me. I'm going to add in the dbol at the end of the cycle again and see if that gives me the initial spike that dbol gave me. The first 5 weeks of dbol jumped me up 22+ lbs! Since I've been off the Dbol and started novaldex at 20mg/day I've dropped about 3lbs. I would assume mostly water weight. But I would have thought the sust would have started kickin' in soon...

 

["GH8"]

BTW, if you already have gyno as you stated then A-dex is useless.

Get some nolvadex...

-G

 

[Diabolical]

Bro, lets face it....

if you have run 8 cycles then you should know that A-dex is a preventer, and nolva gets rid of it. (aka get nolvadex)

Dial_Tone, you have the same logic as I.
The body can only put on so much mass in a given period of time.
Some think if 750mg will give 30lbs, then 1500 will give 60lbs.

Bottom line, it aint gonna happen.

-Dr. D

 

[Zoomster]

Currently I have upped from 500-750mgs. of test to 750-1000mgs. per week. Basically I am taking 250mgs. every other day.

One week I am at 750 the next 1000, and they rotate.

Last cycle I limited the test to 500mgs. per week. I can tell a difference with the additional test, but not dramatic.

I weigh 240, and I think that 750 should be a good number for most, certainly not more than 1000.

If you are doing 1000 of test and another 75 of tren each day that is a total of 1525 mgs. of juice. With 30 mgs. of D-bol it is 1210 mgs. of juice. Put them all together and it is 1735mgs. each week. In any of these cases, there is plenty to grow on.

I like the thought of running the tren when you are not running the d-bol.

 

[tyguy]

It may sound a little simple but I am sure you could get your desired goals (to go from 190 to 205) if you ate right on tren alone.... you have 30 days (a little more would be better) worth of 100mg injections...especially if you haven't used it before.... that is just me... you can make a couple of cycles with what you got to use over the next year or you could use it all in one... you're experienced you will know what to do.

 

[guards]

It may sound a little simple but I am sure you could get your desired goals (to go from 190 to 205) if you ate right on tren alone.... you have 30 days (a little more would be better) worth of 100mg injections...especially if you haven't used it before.... that is just me... you can make a couple of cycles with what you got to use over the next year or you could use it all in one... you're experienced you will know what to do.

I agree

 

[brotheriron]

I think the point about test doseage is that use what you need.
1500mg can be twice as good as 750mg, but also can be useless.
Personally if i took 500mg test i would not gain any weight. But 1000mg i may do. For me its alot more than twice as effective.
Bro

 

[Mr.Holland]

this will do the trick

I think you dont have to use roids at all..
Your at 4% you say.. Start eating like Stillgoing said.
Whats your diet looks like right now??
Add 500 kcal a day. Stop cardio if you are doing any.
Keep an eye on your weight.. if it stops increasing add another 200 kcals a day. I know.. it will be a hell of a job to eat such large amounts, but you will grow (fat but also allot of muscle). Keep this up till you are at about 10 -12% Bf. Then start with the juice. Your body has now a Bf that allows your body to grow much easier. and your also allot heavier...

start eating! and good luck

 

[rrwwdd]

I really like what stillgoing has put together for you, the only suggestion I would make is to keep the tren at the front end of the cycle. Having no experience with tren and its ability to shut you down pretty hard I would keep it at the front and let the test carry you through to the end.

 

[manny78]

Bro, having a shitload of AAS at home does not mean you have to use it all in once cycle. And having 8 or 10 years of experience doesnt mean you want to use more. Just look at your previous cycles and see what improvements YOU think would help.

 

[bubba000]

thanks for all the good advice, I have never taken d-bol at the end of a cycle, I'm going to try it. Also can I get away with running fina eod rahter than ed. 100mg eod

 

[tyguy]

thanks for all the good advice, I have never taken d-bol at the end of a cycle, I'm going to try it. Also can I get away with running fina eod rahter than ed. 100mg eod

umm... yeah, given that this is your first time. I am not sure if you will get your desired results however. But then again everyone is different. Give it a shot. It may pan out, for me it wouldn't, but if you run it with Dbol it is obtainable. Just not 15 pounds of mass on tren alone at 100mg EOD. Good luck!