Adding HCG to my PCT

[Excidium28]

Clomid
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED
weeks 1-3 nolva 20mg
tribulus 3000 mg ED all 3 weeks
maca 1000 mg ED all 3 weeks
r ala 2000 mg ED

Should I add HCG to my post cycle, what dosage? Coming off 19 week cycle drol/sust/winny

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

Should I add HCG to my post cycle, what dosage? Coming off 19 week cycle drol/sust/winny

I would.

 

[Jenetic]

Should I add HCG to my post cycle, what dosage? Coming off 19 week cycle drol/sust/winny

I would run the HCG for the first 3-4 weeks at 2,500 IU's 3 times per week (Monday/Wednesday/Friday) in combination with 20-30 mgs Nolvadex ED. Afterwards, go into your originally planned Clomid PCT followed with bloodwork to determine the results of you PCT and whether or not further treatment is necessary.

 

[Excidium28]

I would run the HCG for the first 3-4 weeks at 2,500 IU's 3 times per week (Monday/Wednesday/Friday) in combination with 20-30 mgs Nolvadex ED. Afterwards, go into your originally planned Clomid PCT followed with bloodwork to determine the results of you PCT and whether or not further treatment is necessary.

Ok so Im thinkin 3 weeks of HCG at 2500IU 3 times a week with 20mg Nolva ED. Than Clomid etc.

What size needle do I need for HCG is 25g 1.5" enough?

 

[Jenetic]

What size needle do I need for HCG is 25g 1.5" enough?

That's fine. It's really a matter of preference. I usually go SubQ with an insulin pin or IM with a 23G 1"

 

[DrJMW]

Clomid
Day 1: 300mg
Day 2 to 10: 100mg ED
Day 11 to 21: 50mg ED
weeks 1-3 nolva 20mg
tribulus 3000 mg ED all 3 weeks
maca 1000 mg ED all 3 weeks
r ala 2000 mg ED

Should I add HCG to my post cycle, what dosage? Coming off 19 week cycle drol/sust/winny

If this recovery cycle has worked for you in the past, then continue it. It will do nothing to quickly regain testicular mass. Clients coming off a prolonged, heavy cycle do the following with 100% success (assuming you have something to recover):

Weeks one thru three of recovery (begin the week after last AAS intake): 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday; 20mg Nolvadex daily; 50mg clomid daily.
Weeks four thru six: 20mg nolvadex daily; 50mg clomid daily.
Weeks seven, eight: Clean.

This recovery cycle is simple, effective, and the meds are readily available.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i use a slin pin sub-q around my navel, i am using dr jmw's pct routine as we speak and so far so good

 

[DrJMW]

I am impressed since HCG, per the manufacturer, should be injected IM.

 

[Excidium28]

If this recovery cycle has worked for you in the past, then continue it. It will do nothing to quickly regain testicular mass. Clients coming off a prolonged, heavy cycle do the following with 100% success (assuming you have something to recover):

Weeks one thru three of recovery (begin the week after last AAS intake): 1,000U HCG, IM, Monday, Wednesday, Friday; 20mg Nolvadex daily; 50mg clomid daily.
Weeks four thru six: 20mg nolvadex daily; 50mg clomid daily.
Weeks seven, eight: Clean.

This recovery cycle is simple, effective, and the meds are readily available.

 

[VictorBR]

Drjmw....Have you delt with cycle like this before? How do you know it will work???


Victor

 

[DrJMW]

Recommended it hundreds of times--I get to see the blood test results from my clients.

 

[Cornobbled]

I am impressed since HCG, per the manufacturer, should be injected IM.

Hey doc. First I would just like to say that I am very impressed with your advice and willingness to help out so many of our members.

I have used HCG subq for years and actually prefer it to IM just because I want to save on the scar tissue. It seems to work very well for me and I know many others that swear by it. My question is in your experience have you found IM to work better?

 

[DrJMW]

Only recommend IM because all of the manufacturers recommend IM. If sub Q works for you, then by all means.

 

[Excidium28]

What exacly does IM mean? im still a newbie to this

 

[Jenetic]

What exacly does IM mean? im still a newbie to this

Intra Muscular

 

[Excidium28]

So basicly inject it like my sustanon?

 

[Jenetic]

So basicly inject it like my sustanon?

That is correct.

Good luck with your recovery.

 

[Excidium28]

Thanks for all your help guys!

 

[MrTex]

hcg is best run with your cycle to prevent shutdown , not as pct.
500 iu's twicw a week will work wonders for you during cycle & run it 2 weeks after lasr injection then start pct.

 

[Excidium28]

I just wanna make sure the boys stay big.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Man, HCG is confusing the shit outta me! I have read so many different things on it! Take it during cycle, take it at the end of cycle, take it after cycle, don't take it after cycle because it is inhibitory........ the more I read the more confused I become!

 

[jlh98765]

welcome to the bodybuilding forums...........

 

[Fat_Sumo]

I've been around for awhile!

 

[DrJMW]

There is no right or wrong. The point is to have a plan. Of course, some experts say you can use HCG during the cycle to maintain testicular mass. But this regimen adds three more injections a week and it raises estrogen levels. Then there is the theory of desensitization of the testes to HCG (LH).

I recommend using it post-cycle, for only three weeks at three times weekly.

At this point, there is no right or wrong. I go with what works for me and my clients (post cycle use of HCG/Nolva and sometimes clomid).

 

[Excidium28]

Ok so my HCG is late .. only got 5000IU's in weiting for the rest. Im leaving contry in 4 days so im gonna have to ship it to my self over seas. Im on my 5th week since last sustanon injection, 1 week with out oral winstrol. Should i weit till I get my HCG and than do my post cycle which is gonna be 3 more weeks the latest. Or should I start bumpin my Clomid and nolva now?

 

[Excidium28]

anybody?

 

[Jenetic]

Ok so my HCG is late .. only got 5000IU's in weiting for the rest. Im leaving contry in 4 days so im gonna have to ship it to my self over seas. Im on my 5th week since last sustanon injection, 1 week with out oral winstrol. Should i weit till I get my HCG and than do my post cycle which is gonna be 3 more weeks the latest. Or should I start bumpin my Clomid and nolva now?

This definitely complicates things. I definitely don't recomend going cold turkey. Where exactly are you going again? You may be able to obtain the HCG fairly easily at a pharmacy.

Options:

1. Start PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex. I believe you mentioned it has worked
for you mention that it has worked for you in the past.


2. Stay on the winstrol for now until you can locate the HCG and run your PCT
as planned.

 

[Excidium28]

This is my first cycle, never did a post cycle before I am 21 years old and even thoug its been 5 weeks since my last sustanon shot and 1 week since last oral winstrol intake, my test still feels high. I droped about 5 lbs thoug.

Im goin to yugoslavia.

This definitely complicates things. I definitely don't recomend going cold turkey. Where exactly are you going again? You may be able to obtain the HCG fairly easily at a pharmacy.

Options:

1. Start PCT with Clomid and Nolvadex. I believe you mentioned it has worked
for you mention that it has worked for you in the past.


2. Stay on the winstrol for now until you can locate the HCG and run your PCT
as planned.

 

[Excidium28]

ok so I did 4-5 weeks on winny total, im gonna go for 2 more weeks till i dont recive my stuff in europe to start my pct.

 

[Excidium28]

Whats a name for it in europe? (HCG) anybody know, what do i need to ask for in pharmacy