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Addicted to GHB

pgerardone said:
every possible way. "The withdrawal does not last long" well heroin withdrawal lasts about the same amount of time. And then you go on to say that you are not really withdrawing from the ghb??? WTF, what do you think caused the dopamine rush?

sorry - that could look like a contradiction I suppose. I was trying to see if from either side there and point out that either way, you are looking at something that isn't what you say it is.

and the sleep drugs you mention are far worse in my mind since they are actually physically addictive.

the point is that I use the stuff for sleep - I use at most 8mls (and that would knock me the fuck out) at night and I don't use it during the day.
if you use it throughout the day, then you, in my mind, are a fucking idiot anyway.
it helps me sleep, and is NOT addictive - if you or someone you know has the type of biological reaction where they are easily addicted to things (hell, I know people addicted to chocolate for a very similar reaction in the brain), that that is fine - but I'm sinply arguing the semantics.
you are NOT addicted to the GHB - if there is a psychological addiction present, then you are addicted to the results that the drug in your system provides - as I said with pot.


and you didn't say what law school you went to
 
This is a fucking stupid-ass thread.

This thread would GET LAUGHED OUT OF ANY
BIO-CHEMISTRY DEPT.

"I think", "It gave me withdrawal" etc...etc...

THIS MEANS NOTHING.

To ACTUALLY PROVE that GHB is indeed ADDICTIVE
you'd have to measue brain neuro-transmitter
levels Pre and post-GHB. AND also, the time it takes
to normalize the transmitters to normalize after that.

THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITH MORPHINE etc...
In fact, its also been done with GHB.
AND THE COCLUSION WAS THAT IT IS NOT
BLOODY PHYSIOLOGICALLY ADDICTIVE.

That is called SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE not the BS conjecture
you guys are sprouting.

In fact 99% of you HAVE NO INKLING as to how GHB works and
Yo'ure actually commenting.......LMFAO!!!!

You guys are weak. That simple. You can't handle the responsibility
of taking drugs in moderation, then DON'T TAKE THEM.

Its guys like you that got GHB banned.

Godspeed
 
if people want to argue it, that is fine, but I guess I agree with Fonz on this one.
what scares me is the number of times I've seen the correlation of people that claim they've had problems, and the number of times I've seen them say "I used to take X cap(fuls) a day..."
WTF?! capfuls? since when did a capful become a way of measuring things? last I checked there was no standardized cap size on things.

use a fucking syringe, use a reputable source, and use it responsibly.
the capful guys are usually the ones that also say "that shit is dangerous man - one time I took 4 capfuls of it and then only 5 shots of bacardi 151 and the next thing I knew I was in the hospital and they say I almost died - that ghb is bad shit"
hey dipshit - it isn't bad if you didn't mix it with the alcohol.

I've seen it too many times on the board and it scares and confuses me.
 
GHB can be phys. addictive

I know two people very close friends who were extremely addicted to ghb...the withdrawal was like a tv portrayal of a heroin addicts withdrawal... shot out nervous shaky sweaty and inability to speak clearly,, it was pretty scary shit...both were put on serious meds and went through some shit to get off...one went back on and you will be able to see an ABC afterschool special interview from him.
 
Does anyone know what happened to that VERVE? That shit was the bomb, in my opinion I liked it much better than G. I heard the government shut there company down or something.
 
I have to agree with Fonz on this one. Used it many times and at no time did I ever feel like I had to have it to function. You'd have to be a weak willed person to let it control you. Stay away if you can't handle life...
 
the taste and smell of gbl make me want to gag/puke, but I usually take it on an empty stomach due to the way the stuff reacts with insulin
 
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