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Absolute best brand of Tribulus to buy for PCT?

macrophage69alpha said:
what exactly does that mean?
are you saying that it works for you contrary to the clinical evidence raising your testosterone levels and leutenizing hormone or that it works for you as a sex drive stimulant and perhaps erectile support (which might also increase muscle pump- same NO mechanism)?


ha ha ..Wow u really got a hate on for tribulas hey .... It means I notice a difference in increased energy, less fatigue and erectile support... I means i have use for the product and i think it help in PCT along with nolva/clomid...
 
tin2 said:
ha ha ..Wow u really got a hate on for tribulas hey .... It means I notice a difference in increased energy, less fatigue and erectile support... I means i have use for the product and i think it help in PCT along with nolva/clomid...



It was a blessing on a tren cycle!Even with PCT

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tin2 said:
ha ha ..Wow u really got a hate on for tribulas hey .... It means I notice a difference in increased energy, less fatigue and erectile support... I means i have use for the product and i think it help in PCT along with nolva/clomid...

its not hate- just dont like seeing it marketed and promoted for properties that it does not have or at least that science says it does not have. Now science does say that it has some effects that could easily make one beleive that the other stuff was true (but those effects are independent of the claimed LH and testosterone boosting claims).
 
...a few studies on effects of tongkat ali:

Arch Pharm Res. 2001 Oct;24(5):437-40. Related Articles, Links

Effects of Eurycoma longifolia jack on laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats.

Ang HH, Cheang HS.

School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, 11800, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

It has been reported that Eurycoma longifolia Jack commonly known as Tongkat Ali has gained notoreity as a symbol of man's ego and strength by the Malaysian men because it increases male virility and sexual prowess during sexual activities. As such, the effects of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack were studied on the laevator ani muscle in both uncastrated and testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats after dosing them for 12 consecutive weeks. Results showed that 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack significantly increased (p<0.05) the leavator ani muscle to 58.56+/-1.22, 58.23+/-0.31, 60.21 +/-0.86 and 62.35 +/-0.98 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared with the control (untreated) in the uncastrated intact male rats and 49.23+/-0.82, 52.23+/-0.36, 50.21+/-0.66 and 52.35+/-0.58 mg/100 g body weight, respectively, when compared to control (untreated) in the testosterone-stimulated castrated intact male rats. Hence, the pro-androgenic effect as shown by this study further supported the traditional use of this plant as an aphrodisiac.

PMID: 11693547 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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J Basic Clin Physiol Pharmacol. 2003;14(3):301-8. Related Articles, Links

Eurycoma longifolia Jack enhances sexual motivation in middle-aged male mice.

Ang HH, Lee KL, Kiyoshi M.

School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

Eurycoma longifolia Jack was investigated for sexual motivation activity in adult, middle-aged male mice and in retired breeders, using the modified open field and the modified runway choice methods. Each mouse received 500 mg/kg of one of 4 fractions of E. longifolia Jack, viz. chloroform, methanol, butanol, and water, whereas the mice in the control and yohimbine groups received 3 ml/kg of normal saline and 30 mg/kg of yohimbine daily respectively for 10 d. The results show a transient increase in the percentage of male mice responding to the right choice after chronic consumption of the fractions with 50 percent of the adult middle-aged male mice treated with E. longifolia Jack and yohimbine scoring the right choice after 8 and 5 days post-treatment respectively. In conclusion, this study has shown that E. longifolia Jack continues to enhance sexual motivation in adult, middle-aged male mice and in retired breeders.

PMID: 14964739 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Ang HH, Ngai TH, Tan TH.


Effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack on sexual qualities in middle aged male rats.

School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Minden, Penang, Malaysia. [email protected]

The effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack were studied on the sexual qualities of middle aged male rats after dosing them with 0.5 g/kg of various fractions of E. longifolia whilst the control group received 3 ml/kg of normal saline daily for 12 weeks. Results showed than E. longifolia Jack enhanced the sexual qualities of the middle aged male rats by decreasing their hesitation time as compared to controls with various fractions of E. longifolia Jack produced 865-916 (91-96), 860-914 (92-98), 850-904 (93-99), 854-890 (95-99), 844-880 (94-98), 840-875 (94-98), 830-870 (94-98), 825-860 (94-98), 820-850 (96-99), 800-840 (93-98), 750-795 (94-99) and 650-754 sec (82-95%) in contrast to controls which produced 950 (100), 934 (100), 910 (100), 900 (100), 895 (100), 890 (100), 885 (100), 880 (100), 855 (100), 860 (100), 800 (100) and 790 sec (100%) throughout the investigation period. Besides these, there was a transient increase in the % of the male rats responding to the right choice after chronic administration of 0.5 g/kg E. longifolia Jack, with more than 50% of the male rats scored right choice after 2 weeks post-treatment and the effect was more prominent at the dose of the observation period. However, there was no sexual enhancement of the middle aged male rats which consumed normal saline since only 45-55% of the male rats responded to right choice throughout the investigation period. Hence, this study shows that E. longifolia Jack enhanced the sexual qualities of the middle aged male rats, further supports the folkuse of E. longifolia Jack as an aphrodisiac.

PMID: 13678248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat Ali) on the initiation of sexual performance of inexperienced castrated male rats.

Ang HH, Cheang HS, Yusof AP.

School of Pharmaceutical Sciences, University Science Malaysia, Penang, Malaysia.

We studied the effects of Eurycoma longifolia Jack, commonly known as Tongkat Ali in Malaysia, on the initiation of sexual performance and the weights of sexual accessories in inexperienced castrated male rats. The doses of 200, 400 and 800 mg/kg body weight, which were extracted from E. longifolia Jack, were orally administered to the rats twice daily for 10 days prior to the tests and continued throughout the test period. Testosterone was used as a positive control after injecting 15 mg/kg daily subcutaneously for 32 days. Results showed that E. longifolia Jack produced a dose-dependent increase in sexual performance of the treated animals, but the E. longifolia Jack groups showed lower sexual performance in mounting, intromission and ejaculation than the testosterone group. Further results also showed that E. longifolia Jack promoted the growth of both ventral prostate and seminal vesicles as compared with the control, but the growth of sexual accessories at 800 mg/kg of butanol, methanol, water and chloroform fractions of E. longifolia Jack was less than that of testosterone treated group. The present study therefore gives further evidence of the folkuse of E. longifolia as an aphrodisiac.

PMID: 10803359 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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from my experience Tongkat ali definitely got my sex drive back on track!! with interest, maybe placebo JMHO
 
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