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BUBU23

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hello to all!

somthing wired happend to me, i was of cycle for 2 month during the cleaning time i took androgel after the sustanon cycle,no during the androgel(twice aday)i was growing feeling very strong and everybody told me i look pump alot

now i stop taking androgel and start sustanon (500 mg week)
and i loose small wheight and pump and strong?

how is that?
everybody say androgel is very week and nothing for mucle pump so what can you tell me?
how can it be im allready after 2 weeks of sustanon took 4 amp
and feel half man!

caN IT BE?
 
Post some pics of your Sustanon ampules, first of all.

Secondly, Androgel is very effective, especially for short cycles because it is active immediately. What was your dosage of Androgel?
 
look my sustanon 250 from the pharmacy i got note from my doctor and bay it in the pharmacy the sustanon was few years by organon now its organon shering they become together and i take 2amp week
500mg

the androgel is 50mg 5 gram each bag ,and i took 2 bags one morning one evning and felt great

how can it be cause 1 amp is like 20 bags of androgel lolll?
 
as i know the sus start acting after around 6-8 amps so maybe cause i stop androgel it takes time till the sus will kick?

but again i felt the androgel like boom
 
BUBU23 said:
look my sustanon 250 from the pharmacy i got note from my doctor and bay it in the pharmacy the sustanon was few years by organon now its organon shering they become together and i take 2amp week
500mg

the androgel is 50mg 5 gram each bag ,and i took 2 bags one morning one evning and felt great

how can it be cause 1 amp is like 20 bags of androgel lolll?
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You were using a DOUBLE dosage of Androgel.

Sustanon takes some time to kick-in, if you don't feel anything at all by week 5, you're in trouble...
 
start injection the sust eod and you will feel it alot sooner... Amps makes this tough i guess but really its the only logical way of injection sustanon. You waste the 'faster acting' short esters by injecting only twice a week
 
ok look i still got strength i just talk about the pump im power lift 160kg its nice so im sure the testosteron give me the strength
if ill need to take sus eod ill be very hurt to my butt lollll

but i had one thread befor that i ask about my pain when i use niddles always infection because the inject but my doctor told me to make liver and kidny exam whats they got to do with it i dont know
anyway im only in my second week so....
 
to :dmessina7:

when you say take sus EOD do you say to me to take

SUNDAY TUSDAY THERSDAY? AWEEK

OR :SUNDAY TUSDAY THERSDEY AND SATERDAY? THEN MONDAY ETC?
 
dmessina7 said:
start injection the sust eod and you will feel it alot sooner... Amps makes this tough i guess but really its the only logical way of injection sustanon. You waste the 'faster acting' short esters by injecting only twice a week
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This is completely FALSE.

The shorter esters are designed to be released quickly and as the short esters drop-off, the medium and long chain esters kick-in.

Shooting Sustanon EOD is a foolish and dogmatic internet theory.
 
just to informed!!

im already after 15 days with sustanon i took all ready 6 amp

3 in week (750mg)

i feel much stronger i didnt get the pump yet (im allready pump but not more)

and the wierd thing is that i dont feel horny.

when i took androgel after 3 bugs only (3 days) i felt horny as horse
so why?

and maybe two weeks is to erly to be feel the pump and the horniest?


i took 6 amp but it was two weeks only what you say guys????
 
Ross said:
You were using a DOUBLE dosage of Androgel.

Sustanon takes some time to kick-in, if you don't feel anything at all by week 5, you're in trouble...
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Ross, bro, come one , you should know better. Sus contains prop and it'll raise test levels within minutes after injection.
 
if its real sustanon you should feel it quick. as in within a day or two. my first cycle I felt it after 24 hours.. 2nd cycle I felt it within 2 1/2 days.

you probably do feel it you probably just dont realize it cause you were on the other stuff before but anyway.

and 2X per week is fine. you dont have to do it EOD, although there are some people who will disagree i'm sure.. i did it 3X per week split my first cycle and do it 2X per week this cycle and I dont feel like my results were any different.. if anything I am happier this time cause I am smarter and am eating and working out better.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Ross, bro, come one , you should know better. Sus contains prop and it'll raise test levels within minutes after injection.
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The amounts of Propionate in Sustanon are not sufficient to cause a manifestation of gains before several weeks. Sustanon will NOT take effect for at least 2 weeks or more, despite containing shorter esters.
 
Ross said:
The amounts of Propionate in Sustanon are not sufficient to cause a manifestation of gains before several weeks. Sustanon will NOT take effect for at least 2 weeks or more, despite containing shorter esters.
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Not true. A single shot of sustanon will raise test levels to over 2000ngs within 30 minutes. As for gains, okay, you may not see something for a while, but that's with anything. You wouldn;t expect "gains" from androgel any sooner.
 
ok my friend all i want to say is yeh you right you should feel very fast with sustanon the feeling but i was ment to say i dont see gains

and im allready after 2 weeks and took 6 amp maybe the amount of amp does not matter cause its short time to get gains so even if i would take 10 amp after 2 weeks its sooner to see big gains so maybe i need to wait arond 4-5 weeks to let the sustanon kick
 
Nelson Montana said:
Not true. A single shot of sustanon will raise test levels to over 2000ngs within 30 minutes. As for gains, okay, you may not see something for a while, but that's with anything. You wouldn;t expect "gains" from androgel any sooner.
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No Nelson, Androgel WILL produce a manifestation of "gains" faster than an injectable such as Sustanon and even Propionate. Blood levels will peak quicker and stay there with the daily administration of Androgel.

Anyone who has used Androgel will confirm it's rapid effects, while anyone who has used Sustanon will confirm that it's EFFECTS are not noticed until at least 2 weeks.
 
last informed!!!

ok today i took my 7 amp and im on sustanon EOD for 20 days

i feel the steroids (not horny)but feel much strength my sustanon are legit from my pharmacy next to my home.

BUT....i still didnt up not even 1kg.....
why damn it!!!!

my friend took it only 500mg after 2 weeks they put more 6 kg
me nothing im look the same(i was allready pump)but i didnt growup more and with the same whight.
should i wait more to get gains or wheight?
maybe cause its my 10 times cycle on sustanon?
 
Ross said:
No Nelson, Androgel WILL produce a manifestation of "gains" faster than an injectable such as Sustanon and even Propionate. Blood levels will peak quicker and stay there with the daily administration of Androgel.

Anyone who has used Androgel will confirm it's rapid effects, while anyone who has used Sustanon will confirm that it's EFFECTS are not noticed until at least 2 weeks.
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Love ya Ross -- but how you can claim Androgel will produce gains quicker than something that is active within seconds at a higher dosage just doesn't make any sense.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Love ya Ross -- but how you can claim Androgel will produce gains quicker than something that is active within seconds at a higher dosage just doesn't make any sense.
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Love you too Nelson, but Androgel is a transdermal gel solution that is active immediately, and reaches peak blood plasma concentrations RAPIDLY, unlike esterfied testosterone.

I don't know if you've ever used Sustanon or Androgel, but Androgel will produce increases in strength and libido within hours, while even Propionate takes several days, at least.


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BUBU23 said:
last informed!!!

ok today i took my 7 amp and im on sustanon EOD for 20 days

i feel the steroids (not horny)but feel much strength my sustanon are legit from my pharmacy next to my home.

BUT....i still didnt up not even 1kg.....
why damn it!!!!

my friend took it only 500mg after 2 weeks they put more 6 kg
me nothing im look the same(i was allready pump)but i didnt growup more and with the same whight.
should i wait more to get gains or wheight?
maybe cause its my 10 times cycle on sustanon?
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steroids aren't magic pills that will make you gain weight.
 
My experience on sust250, didnt feel it till shot #6. Shooting 2x per week. No libido increase either but did increase recovery time as well as strenght...
 
Ross said:
Love you too Nelson, but Androgel is a transdermal gel solution that is active immediately, and reaches peak blood plasma concentrations RAPIDLY, unlike esterfied testosterone.

I don't know if you've ever used Sustanon or Androgel, but Androgel will produce increases in strength and libido within hours, while even Propionate takes several days, at least.


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Prop lasts for 48 hours, so again, what you're saying makes no sense.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Prop lasts for 48 hours, so again, what you're saying makes no sense.
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Yes, but levels peak within that 48 hour duration, unlike Androgel, which PEAKS within hours and remains more stable than an esterfied testosterone, as seen in the charts above.
 
Ross said:
Yes, but levels peak within that 48 hour duration, unlike Androgel, which PEAKS within hours and remains more stable than an esterfied testosterone, as seen in the charts above.
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And prop peaks within minutes. That's a FACT.
 
lollll i wanted help but montana talk to ross lollll

can you tell me maybe i cant grow cause im taking to much protein
powder
 
Ross said:
No, Propionate levels increase within minutes, they don't PEAK minutes after the injection, LOL.
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Sorry Ross, you're simply mistaken. I've experienced this first hand with a blood test after shooting sustanon. It was my first shot of my cycle so all I was working with was a very normal T level of around 350. 30 minutes later my T level was 2550!!!

It's okay to be wrong. We're all wrong sometimes. Hey, you learned something! Isn't that good?
 
At what dosage would one notice these strength gains and pump with androgel, cause I have used it for months at high dosages and not experienced shit, but a lil pump in my finger from pumping the bottle so damn much.
 
STRONGBOW LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL you killed me lollll
i used 2 packs of androgel and was pump very fast after 1 week with strength

but sustanon eod 3 weeks feel shit nothing lollll
im think i take to much protein it makes me thin lolll
 
ONE THING i didnt tell you maybe thats the prob that i dont feel the sustanon ,
i always took inject in the butt till i had smal absses like a small balls in the muscle in the butt,it was very hurt till it not hurt ant more but the absess still there and always i gine the inject in the same area of the absess,so maybe the gear is not full effective cause i inject it in the same spot of the absses?
 
Daily application sof Androgel will equal about 100 mgs of test a week. So it would take a double dose to feel anything. It also goes to show that you don;t need ultra high dosages.

However, if you're taking 2 shots of sustanon a week and not feeling anything, it's NOT sustanon. Sus hits hard and it hits fast and it hits BIG.

Can anybody back me up on this one? Geez. Tell this guy.
 
so maybe im not feel it because what i say?

i dont have exaclly absses in the butt but i have like hard balls i dont knopw how to call it when the steroids not go inside good it make like aball in the butt lolllll
so every time i put in this area so maybe the gear not mix with the blood good and the androgel mix good cause i put it in the skin?

because i try to find why im not feeling the sustanon
 
Nelson Montana said:
Daily application sof Androgel will equal about 100 mgs of test a week. So it would take a double dose to feel anything. It also goes to show that you don;t need ultra high dosages.

However, if you're taking 2 shots of sustanon a week and not feeling anything, it's NOT sustanon. Sus hits hard and it hits fast and it hits BIG.

Can anybody back me up on this one? Geez. Tell this guy.
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It depends on your dosage Nelson, at one shot per week(my standard sustanon dosage), I don't notice ANYTHING until at least 10 days.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Daily application sof Androgel will equal about 100 mgs of test a week. So it would take a double dose to feel anything. It also goes to show that you don;t need ultra high dosages.

However, if you're taking 2 shots of sustanon a week and not feeling anything, it's NOT sustanon. Sus hits hard and it hits fast and it hits BIG.

Can anybody back me up on this one? Geez. Tell this guy.
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Okay Nelson, maybe I can shed some light on this for you guys. I have done Sust both ways @ 500 mgs 2 timeas a week shot Monday and Thursday just like Ross said. Did not feel shit till literally the 6th week and then Holy SHit just blowed the fuck up over night all most, literally gained 20 pounds in a week and a half. Then I get a lil wiser and learn by shooting eod you can get the benefit of the prop ester and done it eod on my next Sust run, Bam within a week raging hard ons, strength and muscle hardness were up. So in IMHO Sust should be done EOD, this is just my experience with Sust. It is one of my favorties and it acted just like Test E for me when done t imes a week, it acted like Sust when done eod. If you want Test E run Test E, if you want the benefit of the short esters run Sust eod. Some may disagree, but I am speaking form my experience with it, not form what a book tells me its suppose to do, and in NO way am I saying that Ross is wrong I am just saying this is what I learned first hand.
 
BUMP, I want to finish this debate. We have two opinions, lets get to the bottom of this, cause I love SUST.
 
Everyone is different how something effects one person isnt the rule as far as anything goes...
 
OK PEOPLE iknow this thread is way to long but,
i need advise from you last advise,
now i took 9 sus amp EOD 750ml
for almost 1 month,
now nothing happend to me not gain mass not wheight nothing only strength,im not feeling horny at all nnootthhiinngg.

not is real gear from my pharmacy what i want to know is:
maybe this gear not good for me ?cause i can change it to cypionat and im sure the cypionat is good cause i took it few times and it was awsome,so i quit using sus and move strait to cypionat

or you tell me continue with sus for more weeks to se if it start bump?

just to tell you after all the sus i took i lost alot water that i had from my d-bol last cycle and lost till today 2kg lollll
i know every boy put more wheight with sus but me the took down

so what would you do if you where me?????????
 
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