? about first time running tren

[khemix]

75 eod or 50 ed not big of a difference and some say better results with the every day at 50...not telling him to jumop to 150 eod ..just saying feel it out..

Right, but the general attitude of "if i can tolerate the sides, i can take more" is horrible.

You should tell him to feel it out next time then? In your post you said "if the sides seem tolerable...up the dose a bit." Thats basicly saying "if you can tolerate it at this dose...take a little more." I dont believe in that. Thats not moderation.

And like you said...50mg/ed compared to 75mg/eod isn't much of a difference. And if its not that much of a difference...why suggest taking more?

It starts a bad habit of upping doses constantly. I cant tell you how many times ive seen this.

 

[access]

Go with Tren A as has been advised and I would pin ED rather than EOD for 6 weeks for your first run with Tren. I would also advocate 25-30mgs/day and that is still going to give you around 750-900mgs over the month. You should see benefits from Tren even at this dose.

My reason for ED injects is just my own personal experience. I can run 75-80mgs/day without issue but if I hit 150mgs/EOD I get sides that I don't have doing ED. Seriously if your going to do something like Tren then you may as well go all out and hit ED. No probs starting EOD either at low dose as Khemix has said as many do this also but just passing on my own view here.

 

[khemix]

Go with Tren A as has been advised and I would pin ED rather than EOD for 6 weeks for your first run with Tren. I would also advocate 25-30mgs/day and that is still going to give you around 750-900mgs over the month. You should see benefits from Tren even at this dose.

My reason for ED injects is just my own personal experience. I can run 75-80mgs/day without issue but if I hit 150mgs/EOD I get sides that I don't have doing ED. Seriously if your going to do something like Tren then you may as well go all out and hit ED. No probs starting EOD either at low dose as Khemix has said as many do this also but just passing on my own view here.

Good post bro.

I'm gonna have to try ED injects myself. I had a close training partner of mine do ED injects while i did EOD injects and his sides were quite a bit more prominent. He swapped to EOD and it wasn't as bad, oddly enough.

It doesn't make sense to me either. I know the science behind ED shots is that is keeps your blood levels much more steady. Its the fluctuation of hormones that causes the sides most of the time.

 

[access]

That's what this is all about Khemix and I know i'm not telling you something you don't already know. Until you try something yourself you just can't be sure and I agree with you completely that what works for one may not necessarily work for another. The time I ran at 150mgs/EOD I pushed through the cycle thinking I would get over it but I didn't and made for a rather unpleasant cycle which sux. I just finished a Tren A cycle couple of months back and went back to ED injects and breezed through at 80mgs/day. No sides to speak of excepting some night sweats and a slight reduction in cardio.

 

[khemix]

That's what this is all about Khemix and I know i'm not telling you something you don't already know. Until you try something yourself you just can't be sure and I agree with you completely that what works for one may not necessarily work for another. The time I ran at 150mgs/EOD I pushed through the cycle thinking I would get over it but I didn't and made for a rather unpleasant cycle which sux. I just finished a Tren A cycle couple of months back and went back to ED injects and breezed through at 80mgs/day. No sides to speak of excepting some night sweats and a slight reduction in cardio.

Another great post man. Glad to have you around

I just might have to finish off the last 6 weeks of my cycle with ED shots, just to see. Lol i dunno though, EOD shots already make me feel like a pin cushion!

 

[access]

I would love for you to try and hear your experience!

You know when I finished that last cycle I said Ferk that's it with ED injects, at least for a while. Guess what..I have just started shooting Prop ED and about to add in NPP and finish with Mast. Oh how quickly we can forget..LOL.

 

[smtimelevi]

can tolerate the sides.......? Yea for now, even without uping the dose over time the sides still may arise. You may just want to apply that knowledge for the next cycle.

 

[HAYEZ]

Right, but the general attitude of "if i can tolerate the sides, i can take more" is horrible.

You should tell him to feel it out next time then? In your post you said "if the sides seem tolerable...up the dose a bit." Thats basicly saying "if you can tolerate it at this dose...take a little more." I dont believe in that. Thats not moderation.

And like you said...50mg/ed compared to 75mg/eod isn't much of a difference. And if its not that much of a difference...why suggest taking more?

It starts a bad habit of upping doses constantly. I cant tell you how many times ive seen this.

i hear ya....75 eod was a good way to start..maybe im bit more of a risk taker...i played with doses a bit and kept gaining all the way to end..

 

[khemix]

i hear ya....75 eod was a good way to start..maybe im bit more of a risk taker...i played with doses a bit and kept gaining all the way to end..

I knwo just how you feel man. I was the same way . I've done the dose playing already. I've found that I need far less gear than i thought. The fluctuation on hormone causes a spike in sides sometimes too.

I'm taking test enth @ 500mg/wk and tren acet @ 100mg/eod and getting almost the same results as test enth @ 750mg/wk and tren acet at 125mg/eod.

and i've noticed that i typically keep gaining up until the end with tren as well.

Chris

 

[marcu_s]

so how would the ideal first cycle of tren a look like?

im thinking of 50mg eod, 9 weeker.

how long is the longest u guys been shutdown after a tren cycle?