A Waste?

[CaptainBSU91]

I've been doing some research.... came to the conclusion that the 1st time you ever juice, is the on you'll benefit the most off of. Right? Well, I was wondering if Whinny, along with Deca or a different combination would be considered a "waste"? This question is off the basis of many in depth conversation on how whinny is a "puss" roid. Any thoughts?

-- The Captain --

 

[liquidmuscle]

winny is not a puss roid, its usually recommended with deca to counter the dry feeling in your shins,joints

 

[Goldprospector]

I beg to differ on the first cycle being the most effective. It is just the one where it blows your mnd because you see gain like you have never seen before. My 4th cycle was my best as far as visual muscle gain.

 

[CaptainBSU91]

Well, alrighty then.... well, what would you advise as far as a 20 year old wanting to cut fat out more so than gain radical muscle mass. How does this sound: Winstol V, D-bol, Deca stack. Not sure on mg/per day-week, need some advice.

Thanks,

-- The Captain --

 

[Whiskey]

I'd say wait a year or two. But I know you won't so give what you listed a try. Do however do some research to compare your weight and age to what others ahve done to see how low or high each dose can be. I hate to sound like your dad, but hey, someone has to be the adult unfortunately

Whiskey

 

[help4john]

Well, alrighty then.... well, what would you advise as far as a 20 year old wanting to cut fat out more so than gain radical muscle mass. How does this sound: Winstol V, D-bol, Deca stack. Not sure on mg/per day-week, need some advice.

Thanks,

-- The Captain --

I don't mind sounding like your father....'cause it's in your best interests. I advise a strict diet and cardio 5 times per week. Try karate, boxing, or another form of martial arts. You'll look ripped and significantly reduce your body fat. After you obtain your black belt....then try gear. I know....not what you wanted to hear. Some things are better with age.

 

[yomama]

I beg to differ on the first cycle being the most effective. It is just the one where it blows your mnd because you see gain like you have never seen before. My 4th cycle was my best as far as visual muscle gain.

It's easier for the body to grow up to 200lbs and fast. But going beond that is hard. I kept 15lbs of muscle, yes muscle, months after my first cycle. Next cycles after, especially when you're already over 200lbs is very hard to gain muscle.

 

[instant.muscle]

if u wanna cut fat, dont do the dbol, do some EQ, u'll b very happy, but if u want bulk too do some deca and EQ and if u want finish up w/ some winny. u'll b a swole ripped mofo! if u train and diet correct! goodluck

 

[kahbab]

Well, alrighty then.... well, what would you advise as far as a 20 year old wanting to cut fat out more so than gain radical muscle mass. How does this sound: Winstol V, D-bol, Deca stack. Not sure on mg/per day-week, need some advice.

Thanks,

-- The Captain --

join the army bro they will run you till you drop all the weight you want....lol

 

[ogilthorpe]

Diet is the best way to drop fat not gear alone. I also agree with the Martial Arts suggestion as I was my most ripped during my Wing Chun training. That will get you ripped and lean as hell, then once you're ripped do a cycle. You probably won't need much due to your age. I know trying to convince you to fill out naturally (which can take until your 25) may be pointless but do keep it mind.

 

[Judo Tom]

whats your height and weight? how long have you trained?

big suprise ill agree and say you should look into martial arts find one you like and one that gives you a good workout. stick with that for a few months along with a good diet and training program and youll be amazed what you can do.

save the roids for when you do want to put on radical muscle mass!!!!!

 

[terrapin]

I agree with all of the above - patience is key - wait till you are older. The longer you wait to start your first cycle the better. Also, I didn't stack anything until my 4 or 5 cycle. I had great gains on deca alone, winny alone, primo alone. I am lucky and respond well to low doses and single compounds (not as much anymore). So, try one compound for your first cycle - you'll be happy.

 

[CaptainBSU91]

Good deal, I appreciate the help. I actually will probably wait, though I dont want to. But, to the martial arts deal... I dont have the funds for that. I'm in college, and work at the gym.. so free membership. Plus, I'm in college fulltime... and work fulltime at a garage. I lift 4-6 times a week, just started cardio.. doing it some a semi-regualr basis. I play basketball too, a couple nights out of the week. But as for the diet, I live off of Tuna and chicken breasts as it is... too damn poor to have all the other needs. BTW, I'm 6'1'' -- about 227-235. I didn't used to flux so bad with my weight, but my shit is all over the place now.

-- The Captain --

 

[Judo Tom]

see if you can start working out with the wrestling team a bit if you are interested..

replace your cardio with sprintwork tht will help a lot

good luck bro

 

[CaptainBSU91]

No wrestling team where I am.... most of my cardio is spring work though, usually a couple 20, 40, 60, 80 yard dashes...

 

[ogilthorpe]

No university-run martial arts classes? We had many at my schools. There must be a kick-boxing class on campus. The reason I suggested martial arts is because, depending upon the instructor, it leans you out and improves your overall body strength (try doing something like 500 fingertip pushups, handstand pushups, 500-1000 crunches etc. in one class and you'll know what I mean). If you absolutely can't find a martial arts class, take-up rowing or some other cardio and strength building activity that is sponsored by the university. BTW If you can't afford proper food for a cycle, you should not be spending your money on gear-especially at your age when gear is not all that necessary. Just some thoughts.

 

[CaptainBSU91]

I hear ya... I'm at a JC right now, not a big university... was gonna play ball, but the heart just isn't in it anymore.