A Saudi sheik is on the videotape with Bin Laden

[gymnpoppa]

I wonder if Bush will stop ignoring the obvious connections now.

Or will the oil continue to keep him from admitting that Saudi isn't on our side. His regrettable words " Either you're with us or against us", should apply to Saudi Arabia.

This is why I hate special interests presidents, groups, agendas in the White House.......no LOYALTY to the people who elect him.

His continued relationship with a terrorist-sponsoring country due to some fucking oil, is a direct insult to the men and women stationed in Saudi, the men and women fighting a war, and the people who lost lives, and family in the Attacks on Sept 11th.

There should be no reason for the separation of ANY terrorists, terrorists sponsors, or terrorists related connections. PERIOD.

I wonder how long are Americans content to look the other way, or are they just misinformed? or misled?


I'll be back in later....gymtime for gymnpoppa.....

 

[the nature boy]

hey where did you read this?

 

[gymnpoppa]

PM, me I'll tell you.

 

[TJ24]

the government doesn't care that the saudi's are against us, they want there oil. Only reason they invaded afghanistan was they want to take control and run an oil pipeline through there. It's all about money not people. I would not doubt if the government was behing the attacks on the wtc, they'd been looking for an excuse to invade there for months before.

 

[danielson]

if they got a flag and started waving it in the background we'd leave them untouched

im curous as to your source too if you wanna reveal that is

 

[manny78]

PM the source its pretty interesting. ALso Saudi Arabia was on eof the 3 countries in the world to recognize the Taliban regimen with Yemen and Pakistan.

 

[gymnpoppa]

danielson, wanna bet the tape is edited, or that won't be shown. I can almost guarantee it. Oh, to be a reporter at the press conference.......

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

U.S. ties to Saudi elite hurting battle?

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/americas_new_war/saud12102001.htm

Bush advisers cashed in on Saudi gravy train

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/americas_new_war/saud12112001.htm

 

[spongebob]

the government doesn't care that the saudi's are against us, they want there oil. Only reason they invaded afghanistan was they want to take control and run an oil pipeline through there. It's all about money not people. I would not doubt if the government was behing the attacks on the wtc, they'd been looking for an excuse to invade there for months before.

jesus christ this is rediculous, what oil pipeline are you talking about?

show one shredd of evidence that the govt. had any knowledge what-so-ever of the WTC atttacks?

 

[spongebob]

danielson, wanna bet the tape is edited, or that won't be shown. I can almost guarantee it. Oh, to be a reporter at the press conference.......

if the tape was in any way tampered or manufactured, why would they allow it to have a suadi shiek in it?

 

[the nature boy]

if the tape was in any way tampered or manufactured, why would they allow it to have a suadi shiek in it?

no it will be tampered in order to take him out of the video.

 

[the nature boy]

jesus christ this is rediculous, what oil pipeline are you talking about?

you havent' read artlicles posted here about this oil pipline? Hmmmm. I've read like 3. True or not, history will be the judge if the oil pipline is real or not. Then things will start to make sense.

 

[karde]

It's no secret that we have wanted to build an oil pipeline through there for years now.

 

[danielson]

danielson, wanna bet the tape is edited, or that won't be shown. I can almost guarantee it. Oh, to be a reporter at the press conference.......

lol

that simpsons episode where homer gets accussed of sexual assault and he was only after a gummi venus de-milo popped into my head,and the interview scene on 'hard copy'

i can just imagine the tape though im sure it will be very realistic or they just wont release it

 

[spongebob]

It's no secret that we have wanted to build an oil pipeline through there for years now.

why is it that when you ask a question it really doesn't get answered.

let me try this as simply as i know how.

1. who is "we"?

2. what "oil" pipeline are you referring to?

you can answer too Nature Boy.

 

[the nature boy]

lol

that simpsons episode where homer gets accussed of sexual assault and he was only after a gummi venus de-milo popped into my head,and the interview scene on 'hard copy'

i can just imagine the tape though im sure it will be very realistic or they just wont release it

hahaahaha. All it showed was homer with his tongue hanging out while the guy was asking him questions. That was hilarious!

 

[manny78]

why is it that when you ask a question it really doesn't get answered.

let me try this as simply as i know how.

1. who is "we"?

2. what "oil" pipeline are you referring to?

you can answer too Nature Boy.

The pipe-line is already built. The contract was granted to Argentina (cause of President Menem). The US tried to get it (can't remeber the company) but the Talibans told them to fuck off.

 

[spongebob]

The pipe-line is already built. The contract was granted to Argentina (cause of President Menem). The US tried to get it (can't remeber the company) but the Talibans told them to fuck off.

manny, this is a little to vague for me to understand. are you sure its already built?

and are you telling me the US govt biulds pipelines?

p.s. if the pipeline is already built, then why would we want to invade then? kind of a rhetorical question.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Instead of letting you Political Sluts quiver and argue about the Pipeline and Terrorism! I will just post some data for you to view! Each side has some valid points, but your emotions carry most of your arguements! So Rightists, Leftists, and Middlists come to the Darkside of the Dcup!


http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/afghan.html


This Data is what all the fuss is about!

 

[danielson]

hahaahaha. All it showed was homer with his tongue hanging out while the guy was asking him questions. That was hilarious!

i loved that episode

 

[manny78]

manny, this is a little to vague for me to understand. are you sure its already built?

and are you telling me the US govt biulds pipelines?

p.s. if the pipeline is already built, then why would we want to invade then? kind of a rhetorical question.

US Gov. never built any pipe line, but you know like me they will push anywhere just to see one US company get a huge contract. President Menem is a muslim thats why an argentinian company got the contract and also cause the US launched some Tomahwaks back in 1997 after the Kenya and Tanzania embassies bombing. As for the pipe line being the reason for the US attacks on Afghanistan, its BS. WTC is the reason.......

 

[spongebob]

Instead of letting you Political Sluts quiver and argue about the Pipeline and Terrorism! I will just post some data for you to view! Each side has some valid points, but your emotions carry most of your arguements! So Rightists, Leftists, and Middlists come to the Darkside of the Dcup!


http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/afghan.html


This Data is what all the fuss is about!

yes i have read that D-cup along with a dozen other articles. nonthing new to me.

 

[spongebob]

US Gov. never built any pipe line, but you know like me they will push anywhere just to see one US company get a huge contract. President Menem is a muslim thats why an argentinian company got the contract and also cause the US launched some Tomahwaks back in 1997 after the Kenya and Tanzania embassies bombing. As for the pipe line being the reason for the US attacks on Afghanistan, its BS. WTC is the reason.......

are you talking about the pipeline that UNOCAL was involved in?

if not do you have any links to the pipline your talking about?

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

yes i have read that D-cup along with a dozen other articles. nonthing new to me.

Then you have passed the final test and you are a Jedi Warrior!

 

[spongebob]

Then you have passed the final test and you are a Jedi Warrior!

does that meen i dont have to catch the chicken.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

does that meen i dont have to catch the chicken.

No, you are above the chicken! You must catch the Dinornus maximus!

 

[gymnpoppa]

Spongebob, somewhere, the point I was about to make was distorted. The tape has bin Laden telling a Saudi sheik about the WTC attacks. I'm betting that the tape will be edited to show only bin Laden being the bad boy.

Bush will downplay the Saudi connection publicly, he has no choice. He's said all along that the Saudis are our allies, to produce clear evidence, amid growing evidence that they're not would undermine his credibility, and expose his oil dealings with them.


Did you hear the Saudi intelligence guy on the other nite? He admitted that there are a lot of Saudis who support bin Laden, but wouldn't come out and say how many supported him with finances. He indicated that our government would at their convienience. Let's just see if the tape has, or if the government identifies who else is present on the tape.

 

[spongebob]

Spongebob, somewhere, the point I was about to make was distorted. The tape has bin Laden telling a Saudi sheik about the WTC attacks. I'm betting that the tape will be edited to show only bin Laden being the bad boy.

Did you hear the Saudi intelligence guy on the other nite? He admitted that there are a lot of Saudis who support bin Laden, but wouldn't come out and say how many supported him with finances. He indicated that our government would at their convienience. Let's just see if the tape has, or if the government identifies who else is present on the tape.

how do we know he's talking to a saudi shiek? and if that is known, why would the US govt try to hide that fact after its known, that would make them look like they are being sneaky.
im just kind of trying to examine this here, not saying it isnt true.

i have no doubt that there are saudi nationals supporting bin laden, but does that implicate the saudi govt.? and money can easily be mis-funded from, lets say, the US govt. into the wrong hands. hell that happens alot with charitable organizations.

 

[spongebob]

Spongebob, somewhere, the point I was about to make was distorted.

hahahahaha, isn't that the case with all threads.

 

[gymnpoppa]

how do we know he's talking to a saudi shiek? and if that is known, why would the US govt try to hide that fact after its known, that would make them look like they are being sneaky.
im just kind of trying to examine this here, not saying it isnt true.

i have no doubt that there are saudi nationals supporting bin laden, but does that implicate the saudi govt.? and money can easily be mis-funded from, lets say, the US govt. into the wrong hands. hell that happens alot with charitable organizations.

What is the name of the first guy to see the tape.....damn....i'll find his name....he said it. Since he said it, none of the other who saw it, cheney, or the senate, have mentioned it. Our news station here reported it, as soon as it broke. I don't think they intended for that to be known, just for the facts that none of the stations reporting it now, have mentioned who's on it now, except for bin Laden.

The saudi intelligence guy refused to answer any questions about whether the saudi government was financing bin Laden now. He did say they had in the past.....also, Bush froze the assets of one wealthy Saudi businessman, but didn't release the name, also, the saudi sued in england to have his assets unfrozen...no word on the outcome of that. My thing is, Bush is on record for saying that he is going after terrorists sponsors. He is, but only some of them. It would be a bad political move to link Saudi to the bin Laden or terrorists movement, with our soldiers there. The only comments from Washington, are the Saudis are cooperating, but privately, they (government without ties to Saudi) are pissed, and frustrated. Also, Bush has no assurances from Saudi that we can use their airbase if he attacks Iraq. Some friend. I'm truly off to crash....

 

[gymnpoppa]

hahahahaha, isn't that the case with all threads.

Yep, usually.

 

[spongebob]

ok, we'll continue manyawna(sp, he-he)

 

[Pink Space Biscuit]

Actually an Alabama Senator acknowledged the shiek yesterday when Fox and Friends was interviewing him about the tape. It doesn't really seem like they are hiding that fact at all. The Senator is part of that new terrorism council with Tom Ridge too, so I'm sure he had clearance.

 

[gymnpoppa]

Actually an Alabama Senator acknowledged the shiek yesterday when Fox and Friends was interviewing him about the tape. It doesn't really seem like they are hiding that fact at all. The Senator is part of that new terrorism council with Tom Ridge too, so I'm sure he had clearance.

Okay, that's good. No coverup. Now, there are links to Saudi, do you think we will bomb them?

No, I don't. It isn't really about eliminating ALL terrorists, it's a discriminating type of war. Even to the point of BOCEPHUS's thread. Still allow people from certain states the government has said sponsor terrorism to come over here. How can you possibly say you're doing all you can to protect us?

 

[rushx79]

gymnpoppa, you are an angry, angry man..

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

how do we know he's talking to a saudi shiek? and if that is known, why would the US govt try to hide that fact after its known, that would make them look like they are being sneaky.

Well he was there! So bomb the leg less shiek to! But let's let him have a head start to run away! It's only fair! Ah to bad he can't walk! Crazy MF'ers!

 

[Jimsbbc]

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/afghan.html


So is this Bush's plan to solve the energy crisis in America while making the world safe for everyone?

Afg. has been identified as a source of various energy mediums, so overthrough the current Gov. and setup a Gov. that favors American trade? Presto! Domestic energy needs are met.

Either way it is win win for Bush. Also, why not play with all of those marvelous military toys and tear some shit up, right?

 

[Dean Kuntz]

the government doesn't care that the saudi's are against us, they want there oil. Only reason they invaded afghanistan was they want to take control and run an oil pipeline through there. It's all about money not people. I would not doubt if the government was behing the attacks on the wtc, they'd been looking for an excuse to invade there for months before.

EXACTLY!

ps. one thing it's sheik(h) not shiek

 

[spongebob]

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/afghan.html


So is this Bush's plan to solve the energy crisis in America while making the world safe for everyone?

Afg. has been identified as a source of various energy mediums, so overthrough the current Gov. and setup a Gov. that favors American trade? Presto! Domestic energy needs are met.

bwahahaha, afganistan is gonna solve our domestic energy needs???

 

[Jimsbbc]

via the pipeline dick sponge.

 

[spongebob]

via the pipeline dick sponge.

people who lack substance often resort to name calling.

1. now, you said,

"Afg. has been identified as a source of various energy mediums, so overthrough the current Gov. and setup a Gov. that favors American trade? Presto! Domestic energy needs are met."

is this not implying that you meant, afganistan has various energy mediums(natural gas, oil, coal), and that if we set up a puppet govt. we could have access.

2. now you tell me why we need a pipeline thru afganistan to solve our domestic needs? if that is what you now mean.

3. and tell me what country we need this pipeline to come from and to end up?

4. tell me why we need to import from that country, when we clearly have saudi arabia in our back pockets, which by the way have the highest proven oil reserves in the world.

5. who would build this pipeline and how would that benefit the US govt?