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thats a lot of compounds my lord. but hey atleast you have the proper ancillaries on hand. yes run the clomid at a low dose along with your pct.
if you are experienced you won't get a word from me on the amount of stuff you are running. i will only say newbs shouldn't run anything like this the first few times.
the only suggestion i will give you is either get rid of the deca or atleast use NPP instead. good luck
if you are experienced you won't get a word from me on the amount of stuff you are running. i will only say newbs shouldn't run anything like this the first few times.
the only suggestion i will give you is either get rid of the deca or atleast use NPP instead. good luck
what are the gains like from NPP in comparison to deca?
In theory, same muscle mass, less water mass. In practice?????????
I also was thinking of switching the winny for mhn. Ive heard nothing but great stuff about mhn, and that its not hard on the joints like winny is.
My only concern with the mhn is would that be too much nandrolone? (20mg mhn/day). Ill post the new one in a sec.
On hand ancillaries would be, for both: Letro, dostinex, adex.
DX-7 multi vitamin, 4 caps/day for entire cycle and PCT, Creatine 10g/day on, 5g/day PCT, fish oils 8g/day,
In theory, same muscle mass, less water mass. In practice?????????
I also was thinking of switching the winny for mhn. Ive heard nothing but great stuff about mhn, and that its not hard on the joints like winny is.
My only concern with the mhn is would that be too much nandrolone? (20mg mhn/day). Ill post the new one in a sec.
On hand ancillaries would be, for both: Letro, dostinex, adex.
DX-7 multi vitamin, 4 caps/day for entire cycle and PCT, Creatine 10g/day on, 5g/day PCT, fish oils 8g/day,
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no it has a shorter half life and ester.
robscottflex
Banned
The deca at that low of a dose will not help you in any way other than leading to more bloat and water retention. I you must run it change it to NPP. also near the end dont lower your test so low while still having the eq and higher than the test. Also oxygen is a waste of money.
HwMchUBnch
New member
i love the layout! shows me u got ur shit organized.
1-10 Test e, 300mg E3D
11-12 Test e, 150mg E3D
1-5 Test p, 100mg EOD
11-16 Test p, 100mg EOD
1-14 Eq, 300mg E3D
1-8 NPP, 150mg E0D
11-16 Mast p, 150mg EOD
11-16 Tren a, 60mg EOD
1-4 Proviron, 50mg ED
6-9 Proviron, 50mg ED
5-7 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
9-11 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
13-15 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
17-18 HCG HCG, 500iu mon/thurs
1-4 Unleashed, 3caps ED
6-9 Unleashed, 3caps ED
11-14 Unleashed, 3caps ED
17-18 Unleashed, 6caps ED
19-22 Unleashed, 3caps ED
1-4 Forma, 8pumps ED
5-8 Forma, 10pumps ED
13-20 Forma, 10pumps ED
21-22 Forma, 6pumps ED
11-13 HCGenerate, 5caps ED
16-20 HCGenerate, 5caps ED
17-18 Post-Cycle, 6caps ED
19-22 Post-Cycle, 3caps ED
17-20 T3-PCT, 2caps ED
19-22 Daa, 3g ED
6-9 N2Slin, 6caps ED
13-16 N2Slin, 4caps ED
19-22 N2Slin, 6 caps ED
17-18 Clomid, 25mg ED
19-22 Clomid, 12.5mg ED
1-22 DX-7, 4caps ED
1-22 gear, 10caps ED
GHRP-6 Somewhere in there, near the end or in PCT. 5mg ED
On Hand
Liquid Prami (.5mg E3D on tren)
Liquidex (for 1-10, before tren)
Liquid Letro
Liquid Stane (15mg EOD on tren)
N2Sleep
N2gaurd (for BP)
Oxygen (for tren cough)
That looks more confusing IMO
I hope it helps you though, I would love to have your critique on it.
11-12 Test e, 150mg E3D
1-5 Test p, 100mg EOD
11-16 Test p, 100mg EOD
1-14 Eq, 300mg E3D
1-8 NPP, 150mg E0D
11-16 Mast p, 150mg EOD
11-16 Tren a, 60mg EOD
1-4 Proviron, 50mg ED
6-9 Proviron, 50mg ED
5-7 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
9-11 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
13-15 HCG, 250iu mon/thurs
17-18 HCG HCG, 500iu mon/thurs
1-4 Unleashed, 3caps ED
6-9 Unleashed, 3caps ED
11-14 Unleashed, 3caps ED
17-18 Unleashed, 6caps ED
19-22 Unleashed, 3caps ED
1-4 Forma, 8pumps ED
5-8 Forma, 10pumps ED
13-20 Forma, 10pumps ED
21-22 Forma, 6pumps ED
11-13 HCGenerate, 5caps ED
16-20 HCGenerate, 5caps ED
17-18 Post-Cycle, 6caps ED
19-22 Post-Cycle, 3caps ED
17-20 T3-PCT, 2caps ED
19-22 Daa, 3g ED
6-9 N2Slin, 6caps ED
13-16 N2Slin, 4caps ED
19-22 N2Slin, 6 caps ED
17-18 Clomid, 25mg ED
19-22 Clomid, 12.5mg ED
1-22 DX-7, 4caps ED
1-22 gear, 10caps ED
GHRP-6 Somewhere in there, near the end or in PCT. 5mg ED
On Hand
Liquid Prami (.5mg E3D on tren)
Liquidex (for 1-10, before tren)
Liquid Letro
Liquid Stane (15mg EOD on tren)
N2Sleep
N2gaurd (for BP)
Oxygen (for tren cough)
That looks more confusing IMO
I hope it helps you though, I would love to have your critique on it.
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ConanX
Banned
Gangster cycle there.
You're trying to bulk first, then cut?
1-12:Test E 600mg EW
1-12: EQ 600mg EW
1-4: Beastdrol 30mg ED
5-12: Tren Ace 50mg ED
6-12: Mast 50mg EOD
Simpler, cheaper, I think more efficient too. You will get big and hard and burn some fat too. Masteron at the end should help keep some of the side effects in control too.
Just my opinion! Also, I'd switch prami for Cabergoline. I am having good results with caber and it's not something you have to play around with the doses with. Run adex maybe though the masteron might be all you need. Save letro if something goes bad and gyno flares up. Get some viagra in case you need to use letro.
Eat eat eat
You're trying to bulk first, then cut?
1-12:Test E 600mg EW
1-12: EQ 600mg EW
1-4: Beastdrol 30mg ED
5-12: Tren Ace 50mg ED
6-12: Mast 50mg EOD
Simpler, cheaper, I think more efficient too. You will get big and hard and burn some fat too. Masteron at the end should help keep some of the side effects in control too.
Just my opinion! Also, I'd switch prami for Cabergoline. I am having good results with caber and it's not something you have to play around with the doses with. Run adex maybe though the masteron might be all you need. Save letro if something goes bad and gyno flares up. Get some viagra in case you need to use letro.
Eat eat eat
Thanks Conan. Yeah, lean bulk, then super cut.
I choose Prami beacause Needto has it on Chemical need. Reliable source.
Letro and adex are just on hand. I was thinking about getting liquid cialis, from chemicalneed again.
Local, it looks chaotic, but I am very much a schedueler. I plan everything to a T. I'll handle it
I choose Prami beacause Needto has it on Chemical need. Reliable source.
Letro and adex are just on hand. I was thinking about getting liquid cialis, from chemicalneed again.
Local, it looks chaotic, but I am very much a schedueler. I plan everything to a T. I'll handle it
needtogetaas
New member
My eyes!!!!
j_p
Newbie
I was thinking of adding in sarms s4 and low dose clomid to PCT
Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5/12.5/12.5
S4 50mg ED weeks 21-24
Bridge weeks 23-26
Discuss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
runt he provarion the whole way through ending with the start ofyour pct.
*no its not liver toxic*
I use it in my cycles all the time even when bulking. its great wiht test. i dont see the point adding it in for 4 weeks. run it for 10wks - the whole cycle.
j_p
Newbie
i agree !
pick 5 things and run them evenly
eg.
wk1-15 teste 500mg ew
wk1-14 EQ
and so on
RADAR
Well-known member
My thoughts exactally!
